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  #41  
Old November 25th 07, 01:51 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Fred J. McCall
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OM wrote:
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:while in the case of Chumpko & McCall, just one lovers' spat and the
bservation that this has been going on for years would suffice, not
:to mention examples of their own trollish nature.
:

Of course, don't let the fact that Chimpko is in MY killfile confuse
your 'logic', above.

See what you miss when you block your ears entirely and deny reality?

From all the 'constructive' commentary I've seen from you, you could
be killfiled with no loss at all...


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"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
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  #42  
Old November 25th 07, 01:58 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Fred J. McCall
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"john hare" wrote:
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:Some will object that it is necessary to sift though a lot
f soil to recover the diamonds that simply must be in
:there. They should be informed that recovering useful info
:from that crowd is morally equal to recovering potable
:alcohol from a winos' vomit, and just about as desirable.
:

Another posting about killfiling others from what has apparently been
a non-value added poster.

Hint: I was around for the vote that CREATED this newsgroup. How
about you?

:
:
: And if we eliminate the trolls this way, we can get back many of the
: serious posters who left because of them.
:
:

Frankly, it's Jr High School clique idiots like you two that are a big
piece of the problem, not just with this newsgroup, but with much of
Usenet these days.

It's no longer laughable when someone says "death of Usenet
predicted". It's a simple statement of fact.


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your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
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  #43  
Old November 25th 07, 02:34 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Dave Michelson wrote:
Hop David wrote:

Pat's false accusation was accompanied by a torrent of ugly words.


Hop,

Knock it off, please.


And all I had to say was the word "robot" in relation to space
colonization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad
You want to build space colonies? Let the robots mine the materials and
build the thing; or even terraform a planet for that matter.
Once it's all ready to go, then the population shows up to live there.
It could take decades (or hundreds or thousands of years to accomplish
if you terraform a planet), but the robots won't lose patience doing it.
They can be a labor-saving device for humanity, like a dishwasher, car
(beats the hell out of a horse), Internet (beats the hell out of mailing
fifty letters and reading fifty newspapers a day), and let people get on
with the more important things in life...say learning how to manipulate
a salt and pepper shaker like a acrobat, or finding where all the really
choice Japanese erotic anime sites are at on the web by mental control
rather than a Google search; the ones that don't send you to ten other
sites before you finally get to the one you want, where the free thirty
second preview clips of the green-haired girl getting gang-banged by the
tendriled aliens is at.
You know, important stuff like that.
In the future, anyone shall be able to interact with websites like that
in a virtual reality sense and have as many tendrils as they wish.
But still for only thirty seconds at a time... which considering the
present degree of patience in doing anything at all, will probably seem
like a long-term relationship.
Okay, it's not Wells' "Things To Cum"...excuse me "Come", but I'm
willing to bet that the Morlocks gave the Eloi stuff like this.
These are the wonderful things that are the dreamed-of destiny of
humanity in its bold future age.
Then one day Capitan Kirk shows up and blows up the computer, as is his
wont...the goddamn spoil-sport. :-D

Pat
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Old November 25th 07, 04:49 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Jeff Findley" wrote:

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:"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
...
:
: "kT" wrote in message
: ...
:
: We know where your priorities lie.
:
: Yes, OM's priority is to protect the group from folks like yourself.
:
:It's a very noble quest indeed.
:

Indeed, but his judgment is, of course, biased (and flawed) by his own
likes and dislikes.

One wonders if he should add those folks who spend much time and
bandwidth bruiting about who they think should be 'shunned'.


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territory."
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Old November 25th 07, 10:13 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Rand Simberg wrote:

Pat is the class clown, with idiotic and uninformed opinions on
politics, and technological issues. Just be entertained by his posts
when they're (as they are occasionally, if you can separate wheat from
chaff) entertaining, and otherwise ignore him.


Only exceptionally rational men can afford to be absurd.

- Allan Goldfein

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Dave Michelson

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Old November 25th 07, 11:35 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Dave Michelson wrote:

Rand Simberg wrote:


Pat is the class clown, with idiotic and uninformed opinions on
politics, and technological issues. Just be entertained by his posts
when they're (as they are occasionally, if you can separate wheat from
chaff) entertaining, and otherwise ignore him.



Only exceptionally rational men can afford to be absurd.


Pat offered as a plausible scenario a major mining and industrial
complex operated solely by robots, either teleoperated robots or
operating under their own A.I. This won't come to pass for some time to
come, in my opinion. Although I didn't agree with Pat, but this argument
didn't bother me that much.

An ignorant view that accompanied this argument is that mining is not
all that difficult. Pat asked how many miners have doctorate degrees? I
replied there are indeed doctorate degrees in mining engineering. Also
there are many journeyman trades in the mining industry that go through
challenging apprenticeship programs. I've known boilermakers,
electricians and pipefitters whose level of expertise rivals that of an
engineer. I was offended by Pat's ignorant and arrogant question but not
unduly so.

Pat then accused me of a misattribution and an outright lie. An
"outright lie" that he declared loathesome and cowardly.

An exceptionally rational man would check his facts before launching
such extreme accusations. Pat didn't take 30 seconds to check his facts,
Or else he would know the supposed misattribution was only his addled
misreading of my post.



Hop


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Old November 25th 07, 11:37 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Rand Simberg wrote:


Why do you care what Pat thinks or says about you? I certainly don't.


Well, at one time I valued Pat's opinions. That may become a thing of
the past.

Hop
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Old November 26th 07, 12:18 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Dave Michelson wrote:
Rand Simberg wrote:

Pat is the class clown, with idiotic and uninformed opinions on
politics, and technological issues. Just be entertained by his posts
when they're (as they are occasionally, if you can separate wheat from
chaff) entertaining, and otherwise ignore him.


Only exceptionally rational men can afford to be absurd.


That's just what Groucho Marx said...or was it Karl Marx?
My God! Rand said something about me that was over six words in length!
I remember when he said I had idiotic and uninformed political opinions
on the Democrat's chances of getting control of both houses of Congress
during the 2006 elections. :-D

Pat
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Old November 26th 07, 05:57 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle, sci.space.policy, sci.space.history
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On Nov 21, 2:33 pm, "Scott Hedrick" wrote:
"kT" wrote in message

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We know where your priorities lie.


Yes, OM's priority is to protect the group from folks like yourself.


Yes, he's such a threat. Perhaps to YOU he is...
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Old November 26th 07, 05:58 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle, sci.space.policy, sci.space.history
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On Nov 21, 3:18 pm, "Jeff Findley"
wrote:
"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message

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"kT" wrote in message
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We know where your priorities lie.


Yes, OM's priority is to protect the group from folks like yourself.


It's a very noble quest indeed.


Noble, like gas...

 




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