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Old May 19th 07, 03:23 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments

The following IRT equations for frequency and wavelength shifts of incoming
light are valid for use in all environments....including gravity.
Frequency Red Shift of incomeing standard light:
f_ab = f_aa[sqrt{F_ab/(2F_aa - F_ab)}]

Frequency Blue Shift of incoming standard light:
f_ab = f_aa[sqrt{(2F_aa - F_ab)/F_ab}]

Wavelength Red Shift (longer wavelength) of incoming standard light:
L_ab = L_aa[sqrt{F_ab/(2F_aa - F_ab)}]

Wavelength Blue Shift (shorter wavelength) of incoming standard light:
L_ab = L_aa[sqrt{(2F_aa - F_ab)/F_ab}]

A is the observer and the incoming light is from a standard light source in
B's frame.
f_ab = the predicted red or blue shift of frequency of incoming standard
light from B.
f_aa = the measured frequency of an standard light source in A's frame as
measured by A.
F_ab = The measured frequency of a standard light source in B's frame as
measured by A. If the measured F_ab is not constant a mean frequency of F_ab
is used in the equation.
F_aa = f_aa = the measured frequency of an standard light source in A's
frame as measured by A.
L_ab = the predicted red or blue shift of wavelength of incoming standard
light from B.
L_aa = the measured wavelength of the standard light source in A's frame as
measured by A..

The above equations are valid for use in all environments....including
gravity. Therefore these IRT equations replace the need for the complicated
GRT equations.

A paper on IRT entitled "Improved Relativity Theory" is available in the
following website:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm

Ken Seto


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Old May 19th 07, 03:36 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
Dirk Van de moortel
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments


"kenseto" wrote in message ...
The following IRT equations for frequency and wavelength shifts of incoming
light are valid for use in all environments....including gravity.
Frequency Red Shift of incomeing standard light:
f_ab = f_aa[sqrt{F_ab/(2F_aa - F_ab)}]

Frequency Blue Shift of incoming standard light:
f_ab = f_aa[sqrt{(2F_aa - F_ab)/F_ab}]

Wavelength Red Shift (longer wavelength) of incoming standard light:
L_ab = L_aa[sqrt{F_ab/(2F_aa - F_ab)}]

Wavelength Blue Shift (shorter wavelength) of incoming standard light:
L_ab = L_aa[sqrt{(2F_aa - F_ab)/F_ab}]

A is the observer and the incoming light is from a standard light source in
B's frame.
f_ab = the predicted red or blue shift of frequency of incoming standard
light from B.
f_aa = the measured frequency of an standard light source in A's frame as
measured by A.
F_ab = The measured frequency of a standard light source in B's frame as
measured by A. If the measured F_ab is not constant a mean frequency of F_ab
is used in the equation.
F_aa = f_aa = the measured frequency of an standard light source in A's
frame as measured by A.
L_ab = the predicted red or blue shift of wavelength of incoming standard
light from B.
L_aa = the measured wavelength of the standard light source in A's frame as
measured by A..

The above equations are valid for use in all environments....including
gravity. Therefore these IRT equations replace the need for the complicated
GRT equations.

A paper on IRT entitled "Improved Relativity Theory" is available in the
following website:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm


Honestly now, Ken, being even more stupid than O'Barr,
does it hurt?

Dirk
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Old May 19th 07, 04:08 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Lightin All Environments

kenseto wrote:

The following IRT equations for frequency and wavelength shifts of incoming
light are valid for use in all environments....including gravity.
Frequency Red Shift of incomeing standard light:

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Old May 19th 07, 07:24 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments

On May 19, 10:23 am, "kenseto" wrote:
The following IRT equations for frequency and wavelength shifts of incoming
light are valid for use in all environments....including gravity.
Frequency Red Shift of incomeing standard light:
f_ab = f_aa[sqrt{F_ab/(2F_aa - F_ab)}]

Frequency Blue Shift of incoming standard light:
f_ab = f_aa[sqrt{(2F_aa - F_ab)/F_ab}]

Wavelength Red Shift (longer wavelength) of incoming standard light:
L_ab = L_aa[sqrt{F_ab/(2F_aa - F_ab)}]

Wavelength Blue Shift (shorter wavelength) of incoming standard light:
L_ab = L_aa[sqrt{(2F_aa - F_ab)/F_ab}]

A is the observer and the incoming light is from a standard light source in
B's frame.
f_ab = the predicted red or blue shift of frequency of incoming standard
light from B.
f_aa = the measured frequency of an standard light source in A's frame as
measured by A.
F_ab = The measured frequency of a standard light source in B's frame as
measured by A. If the measured F_ab is not constant a mean frequency of F_ab
is used in the equation.
F_aa = f_aa = the measured frequency of an standard light source in A's
frame as measured by A.
L_ab = the predicted red or blue shift of wavelength of incoming standard
light from B.
L_aa = the measured wavelength of the standard light source in A's frame as
measured by A..

The above equations are valid for use in all environments....including
gravity. Therefore these IRT equations replace the need for the complicated
GRT equations.

A paper on IRT entitled "Improved Relativity Theory" is available in the
following website:http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/index.htm


Another work on IRT can be found he http://www.nycsubway.org/irtsubway.html




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Old May 19th 07, 09:21 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments

On May 19, 7:23 am, "kenseto" wrote:

[...]

So Ken, are you going to explain how your equations follow from the
postulates of your theory?

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Old May 20th 07, 12:28 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments


"Eric Gisse" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 19, 7:23 am, "kenseto" wrote:

[...]

So Ken, are you going to explain how your equations follow from the
postulates of your theory?


The first two postulates of IRT are exactly the same as SR. Therefore it is
valid to convert the SR equations for Doppler shifts into IRT equations. The
conversion factors are as follows:
relative velocity = v = Lambda(F_a - F_b)
c = F_aa(Lambda)
gamma = F_aa/F_ab
1/gamma = F_ab/F_aa

Easy they are converted from SR Doppler shift equations.


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Old May 20th 07, 01:20 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments

On May 19, 4:28 pm, "kenseto" wrote:
"Eric Gisse" wrote in message

oups.com...

On May 19, 7:23 am, "kenseto" wrote:


[...]


So Ken, are you going to explain how your equations follow from the
postulates of your theory?


The first two postulates of IRT are exactly the same as SR. Therefore it is
valid to convert the SR equations for Doppler shifts into IRT equations. The
conversion factors are as follows:
relative velocity = v = Lambda(F_a - F_b)
c = F_aa(Lambda)
gamma = F_aa/F_ab
1/gamma = F_ab/F_aa

Easy they are converted from SR Doppler shift equations.


So why bother using your theory if all you do is copy and paste from
SR?

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Old May 20th 07, 01:22 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments

In article . com,
Eric Gisse wrote:

Easy they are converted from SR Doppler shift equations.


So why bother using your theory if all you do is copy and paste from
SR?



So he can be special.

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Old May 20th 07, 10:20 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments


"Eric Gisse" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 19, 4:28 pm, "kenseto" wrote:
"Eric Gisse" wrote in message

oups.com...

On May 19, 7:23 am, "kenseto" wrote:


[...]


So Ken, are you going to explain how your equations follow from the
postulates of your theory?


The first two postulates of IRT are exactly the same as SR. Therefore it

is
valid to convert the SR equations for Doppler shifts into IRT equations.

The
conversion factors are as follows:
relative velocity = v = Lambda(F_a - F_b)
c = F_aa(Lambda)
gamma = F_aa/F_ab
1/gamma = F_ab/F_aa

Easy they are converted from SR Doppler shift equations.


So why bother using your theory if all you do is copy and paste from
SR?


Hey idiot......the converted equations are valid in all
environments....including gravity. Also IRT has extended equations that
includes the possibility that the observer's clock is running at a slower
rate than the observed clock. What this mean is that IRT is a complete
theory of relativity. There is no need for SR/GRT.


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Old May 20th 07, 11:18 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
Eric Gisse
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Default IRT Equations for Frequency and Wavelength Shifts of Incoming Light in All Environments

On May 20, 2:20 am, "kenseto" wrote:
"Eric Gisse" wrote in message

ups.com...



On May 19, 4:28 pm, "kenseto" wrote:
"Eric Gisse" wrote in message


roups.com...


On May 19, 7:23 am, "kenseto" wrote:


[...]


So Ken, are you going to explain how your equations follow from the
postulates of your theory?


The first two postulates of IRT are exactly the same as SR. Therefore it

is
valid to convert the SR equations for Doppler shifts into IRT equations.

The
conversion factors are as follows:
relative velocity = v = Lambda(F_a - F_b)
c = F_aa(Lambda)
gamma = F_aa/F_ab
1/gamma = F_ab/F_aa


Easy they are converted from SR Doppler shift equations.


So why bother using your theory if all you do is copy and paste from
SR?


Hey idiot......the converted equations are valid in all
environments....including gravity. Also IRT has extended equations that
includes the possibility that the observer's clock is running at a slower
rate than the observed clock. What this mean is that IRT is a complete
theory of relativity. There is no need for SR/GRT.


Why convert equations? SR is a _completely different theory_ from IRT,
right?

Your constant mumbling about how the first two postulates are the same
is complete and utter stupidity. The first four postulates of
Euclidean, Hyperbolic, and Elliptic geometries are all the same - yet
they are wildly different.

You _HAVE NOT SHOWN_ that your 'converted' equations are valid. You
_HAVE NOT SHOWN_ that you can derive your 'converted' equations from
your postulates. You _HAVE NOT SHOWN_ that your 'converted' equations
are valid in gravitationally-influenced environments - the 'converted'
equations are from SR, and not valid in GR.

You really haven't shown much of anything, really.

 




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