What ff(on end of universes???)

On Apr 11, 7:28*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Apr 11, 9:28*am, BradGuth wrote:



On Apr 10, 9:19*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Apr 10, 5:14 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message

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What if the density of matter in our universe is the clue to how it will
end? Take galaxies that move so far apart that their mutual gravity
can't balance out expansion.If it was strong enough we would have a
"closed" universe and one day recolapse in on itself. collapse
could create expanding forever at a slower pace forever. My scenario is
this "The universe will expand at an ever faster expanding rate" It is
thinning out as I type. In a trillion trillion trillion trillion
trillion years from now it will have to be considered empty. Well
I posted 3 ways of endng with our todays knowlege,and there coud be more
universe endings as humankind gets smarter. TreBert

The universe will expand until it has all it can expand, then it will
expand no more.

Or, it'll get sucked into "The Great Attractor".

**Everything is part of the universe.

Including black holes, dark matter, dark energy, antimatter, wormholes
and other universes.

*~ BG

All is part of the great multiverse!

Double-A

Yes, a multi-universe it is.

~ BG

On Apr 11, 7:59*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Apr 11, 7:53*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:



"Double-A" wrote in message

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On Apr 11, 9:28 am, BradGuth wrote:

On Apr 10, 9:19 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Apr 10, 5:14 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message

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What if the density of matter in our universe is the clue to how it
will
end? Take galaxies that move so far apart that their mutual gravity
can't balance out expansion.If it was strong enough we would have a
"closed" universe and one day recolapse in on itself. collapse
could create expanding forever at a slower pace forever. My scenario
is
this "The universe will expand at an ever faster expanding rate" It
is
thinning out as I type. In a trillion trillion trillion trillion
trillion years from now it will have to be considered empty. Well
I posted 3 ways of endng with our todays knowlege,and there coud be
more
universe endings as humankind gets smarter. TreBert

The universe will expand until it has all it can expand, then it will
expand no more.

Or, it'll get sucked into "The Great Attractor".

**Everything is part of the universe.

Including black holes, dark matter, dark energy, antimatter, wormholes
and other universes.

~ BG

All is part of the great multiverse!

**Either there is the universe, or there is the multiverse.
Now which is it?

Double-A

Multiverse! *It's too big to be "Uni"!

Double-A

Then "Multiverse" it is. Better yet, "Double-A Multiverse".

~ BG

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Mark there are as many universes in the cosmos as flakes of snow in an
endless storm,and all are exactly alike other than Treb's universe has
positrons. Yes they are created in pairs,and separated by a time laps.
Creating every thing in positive and negative pairs was one of mother
natures first balancing acts. Without balance there would be complete
chaos go figure TreBert

I heard that each of us creates his own universe.
Maybe that is where they come from.

On Apr 12, 12:20*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message

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Mark *there are as many universes in the cosmos as flakes of snow in an
endless storm,and all are exactly alike other than Treb's universe has
positrons. Yes they are created in pairs,and separated by a time laps.
Creating every thing in positive and negative pairs was one of mother
natures first balancing acts. * Without balance there would be complete
chaos * go figure * *TreBert

I heard that each of us creates his own universe.
Maybe that is where they come from.

If God had anything to do with creating this mess, he should be
ashamed of himself.

Any god worth half of his/her salt would have created a steady state
universe, as will as an instruction manual of at least what not to
do. We can't use the bible or the old testament because either has
been thoroughly revised in order to suit the faith or cabal at hand,
and besides it offers us nothing about physics, science or biology.

~ BG

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Apr 12, 12:20 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message

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Mark there are as many universes in the cosmos as flakes of snow in an
endless storm,and all are exactly alike other than Treb's universe has
positrons. Yes they are created in pairs,and separated by a time laps.
Creating every thing in positive and negative pairs was one of mother
natures first balancing acts. Without balance there would be complete
chaos go figure TreBert

I heard that each of us creates his own universe.
Maybe that is where they come from.

If God had anything to do with creating this mess, he should be
ashamed of himself.


**We are here to pay the price.
You didn't expect to get everything for free, did you?

Any god worth half of his/her salt would have created a steady state
universe, as will as an instruction manual of at least what not to
do.

**Maybe the universe finally does become steady state, when it expands
to the greatest length possible.


We can't use the bible or the old testament because either has
been thoroughly revised in order to suit the faith or cabal at hand,
and besides it offers us nothing about physics, science or biology.

**You forget that if the sacred books are changed, God can still
keep the proper meaning in them.

Mark Reality is we are part of the universe(star stuff) Humankind is
special because we are created so the universe can see itself. Without
our eyes the extension of our brains universes need not exist. We humans
give reality to all that is. Mother nature does a lot to save us,but the
kicker is we can not save ourselves from ourselves We started off
stupid but had great survival. We now are much smarter,but are in
jeopardy of extinction, The Cockroach has the right stuff TreBert

On Apr 12, 4:13*pm, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Mark Reality is we are part of the universe(star stuff) Humankind is
special because we are created so the universe can see itself. Without
our eyes the extension of our brains universes need not exist. We humans
give reality to all that is. Mother nature does a lot to save us,but the
kicker is we can not save ourselves from ourselves *We started off
stupid but had great survival. We now are much smarter,but are in
jeopardy of extinction, *The Cockroach has the right stuff * TreBert

And the water bear also has our survival beat by a good million to
one, if not better.

Eden simply isn't big enough nor forgiving enough for the frail human
species.

~ BG

On Apr 12, 12:20*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message

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Mark *there are as many universes in the cosmos as flakes of snow in an
endless storm,and all are exactly alike other than Treb's universe has
positrons. Yes they are created in pairs,and separated by a time laps.
Creating every thing in positive and negative pairs was one of mother
natures first balancing acts. * Without balance there would be complete
chaos * go figure * *TreBert

I heard that each of us creates his own universe.
Maybe that is where they come from.


Sounds like the ultimate in siloing.

Double-A

You believe in God, now?
Amazing.

"Saul Levy" wrote in message
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Pretending again to BE god, Mark? lmfjao!

Aw, you FAILED!

Saul Levy


On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:02:47 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
wrote:

Any god worth half of his/her salt would have created a steady state
universe, as will as an instruction manual of at least what not to
do.

Double A What if we feed into a computer the present spacetime and
compressed the universe backwards. I think that scenario would go like
this. Now is the birth of humankind 4.5 billion years ago the birth of
the solar system. Next galactic formation of our Milky Way.Still going
backwards the very early proto galaxies. Getting closer to the beginning
hydrogen getting compressed and heating up. Just outside the BB neutrons
being created. At the first second of the BB great space expansion,and
micro wave energy mixed with gamma photons. The the second before the
big bang the rippling cosmic energy held for just a trillion of a second
by gravity. I do have a scenario of before the big bang. I my mind when
the big bang went off till now was 22 billion years,but the kicker is
before this big bang could be created took a trillion trillion trillion
trillion years. I will give out a hint I refer to it as the big bang in
the quantum micro level. A time even I can not theorize quantum effects.
A negative time with negative energy merging together to form positive
energy by their combining. I do have the colossal nerve to post this
weird stuff. I will go where no other brain would dare go. Into the
core of creation of the quantum universe. Into an area the size of a
centimeter divided by one with 33 zeros after it go figure TreBert