Open letter to Michael Griffin

On Nov 20, 2:04 pm, OM wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:13:56 -0500, "Jeff Findley"

wrote:
...You know, I think I know what my NYE resolution is: to finally
compile that Suggested Troll Killfile List for sci.space.*. As it
stands now, Fink's like 6th on the list, just under the
Bickersons...er...the Chumpko-McCall couple.

I recently added Fink to mine. He's really gone off the deep end lately.

...Here's the list that I have so far, in no particular order at this
time in termse of severity:

Brad Guth
Bob Haller
Erik Chomko
Fred J. McCall
scottgrissom
Craig Fink
Tommy Lee Elfritz
*Anyone* with the last name of Maxson
Andre Lieven
Stuf4 AKA "~CT"
LIBERATOR
Leopold Stotch
"The Commentator"
Danny Dot - or whatever he's going by now? Deger?
Nicholas Fitzpatrick
"Jonathan"

...Now, a couple of these may no longer be out there, as I've seen
nothing of them in terms of having been quoted for a while. But
looking back through google groups, if everyone killfiled these
trolling *******s, about 75% of the trash on all three groups would be
eliminated. In the case of .policy, this would equate to about 5000
posts a month, if not a week, that we wouldn't have to wade through.

...What I'd need to make this list work best is to include specific
reasons why they should be sent to Killfile Hell. In the case of scum
like ElfNazi, even one anti-semitic post is justification enough,
while in the case of Chumpko & McCall, just one lovers' spat and the
observation that this has been going on for years would suffice, not
to mention examples of their own trollish nature. The Maxson Family
Values - or lack thereof - are easily googleable, and the patridork of
the family has his own insanity hung out like bloody sheets on his own
website. The evidence is there, we just need to compile it
accordingly. For example:

Alias Used:
Real Name (if known):
Known E-Mail Address(es), fake or real:
Primary Justification For Killfiling:
Best Example Of Evidence Cited:
Additional Links To Evidence:

...Again, it wouldn't be that hard to compile it if everyone pitched
in.

...I should add that there's a catch to this one: whoever gets added
to the list should be a troll that's accepted as such by a majority.
If, say, you're Hoppy and you can't stand Pat's posts while pretty
much everyone else at least tolerates his posts, then put him in
*your* killfile and let everyone else make their own decision. The
list isn't to censor and/or stifle valid disagreements, it's to
eliminate trolling *******s. There *IS* a difference, which is why
you'll note that I don't have Rand listed in my sample list, even
though he's sharing a cell in part of my killfile with Brad Guth right
now.

Bottom Line: We can reduced the severity of the troll infestation on
the sci.space groups if we take the necessary steps to make everyone
aware of who the acknowledged trolls are. Several of them use the same
standard tactics to catch the n00bs and the clueless off guard - you
know, post something interesting, then twist the resulting thread into
some insane CT nutter pile of hot, steaming, festering bull**** - and
having a regularly-posted list like this will give the rest of us
something to refer them to when they start replying to the trolls.

And if we eliminate the trolls this way, we can get back many of the
serious posters who left because of them.

OM
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you didn't include that crank Bob Mosley???

Eric Chomko wrote:
On Nov 20, 7:27 pm, Craig Fink wrote:
OM, I've read some of your post. What I've found is that 1 in a 100 are
good. Usually, it's on the subject of History. Consider writing more on
that subject. The other 99 is why I don't read much of it, or those who
regularly respond to you.

Consider, this is Usenet, the subject is sci.space.*, I wouldn't want my
child reading a lot of the stuff you post. I'm sure many of the regulars
here with children who wouldn't want them reading a lot of your post. This
isn't a bar. I'd like to encourage kids interested in sci.space.*

Consider, "You are what you eat", equally, "You think what you read". We all
pick and choose what we read, in essence we choose how we brainwash
ourselves by what we read. It's a personal choice, what thoughts you want
to have. Just consume enough and ...

I'd send you a Courtesy E-Mail, but you might be offended.

Let's face it, many of the people on OM's list are people that he
disagrees with politically. OM never learned to agree to disagree and
still remain civil. When he realizes someone opposes his political
view, he'll plonk them. The exception of course are astronauts and
other space celebrities, in which case he falls all over himself
trying to brown-nose his way into their lives.

I've seen teenage girls act like this as well. LOL!

And Mr. Robert Mosley III's politics is, of course, ... fascism.

Jeff Findley wrote:
"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
...
"kT" wrote in message
...

We know where your priorities lie.

Yes, OM's priority is to protect the group from folks like yourself.

I see, he's there to defend you from freedom of speech and expression.

It's a very noble quest indeed.

Yes, that is indeed what he knows and loves - fascism.

OM wrote:


If, say, you're Hoppy and you can't stand Pat's posts while pretty
much everyone else at least tolerates his posts, then put him in
*your* killfile and let everyone else make their own decision.

Pat's false accusation was accompanied by a torrent of ugly words.

http://clowder.net/hop/accus/accus.html

Hop

Hop David wrote:

Pat's false accusation was accompanied by a torrent of ugly words.

Hop,

Knock it off, please.

Thanks

--
Dave Michelson

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:58:33 GMT, in a place far, far away, Dave
Michelson made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Hop David wrote:

Pat's false accusation was accompanied by a torrent of ugly words.

Hop,

Knock it off, please.

Agreed.

Why do you care what Pat thinks or says about you? I certainly don't.

Pat is the class clown, with idiotic and uninformed opinions on
politics, and technological issues. Just be entertained by his posts
when they're (as they are occasionally, if you can separate wheat from
chaff) entertaining, and otherwise ignore him.

Or killfile him completely. But please stop whining about him.

"kT" wrote in message
...
Jeff Findley wrote:
"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
...
"kT" wrote in message
...

We know where your priorities lie.

Yes, OM's priority is to protect the group from folks like yourself.

I see, he's there to defend you from freedom of speech and expression.

So that's how your Jewish masters define "talking out of your ass".


It's a very noble quest indeed.

Yes, that is indeed what he knows and loves - fascism.

If that were true, he'd love you.

"scott" wrote in message
...

you didn't include that crank Bob Mosley???

Which should read: "That Bob Mosley included a crank like me."

Scott Hedrick wrote:
"kT" wrote in message
...
Jeff Findley wrote:
"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
...
"kT" wrote in message
...

We know where your priorities lie.
Yes, OM's priority is to protect the group from folks like yourself.
I see, he's there to defend you from freedom of speech and expression.

So that's how your Jewish masters define "talking out of your ass".

No, but what you present can certainly be described as illucid.

It's a very noble quest indeed.
Yes, that is indeed what he knows and loves - fascism.

If that were true, he'd love you.

Fascist's don't love, they hate. That's OM.

Scott Hedrick wrote:
Yes, OM's priority is to protect the group from folks like yourself.

I see, he's there to defend you from freedom of speech and expression.


So that's how your Jewish masters define "talking out of your ass".


Or as many would say, "The freedom of speech doesn't include yelling
'Moon Hoax!' in the middle of a burning theater."
The crime isn't saying the wrong thing; the crime is wasting people's time.
In many cases "crypto-looniness" may not be detected for several
postings. and by then, many hours may have been wasted.
The crazier the theory, the longer it seems to take to describe
it...sometimes, thousands of words.
That's why for politeness' sake, the standard form must be used:

Since of late we seem to be getting a number of long (VERY long...)
loony theory postings by individuals who unlike Brad Guth, do not know
exactly how to write one of these things, I thought it might be good to
supply a standardized form to help this amateurs along in their
generally futile attempt to express their Brilliant Idea in a form in
which someone other than themselves can comprehend it.
Therefo

MY LOONY THEORY
MY LOONY THEORY IS THAT (100 words maximum):
__________________________________________________ __________________________________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________

I DEVELOPED THIS THEORY BY (check one):
__ Listening to The Art Bell show.
__ Uncovering a Freemasonic plot.
__ Uncovering a Jewish plot.
__ Uncovering a Communist plot.
__ Uncovering a Government plot.
__ Uncovering a cemetery plot.
__ Uncovering last week's Stargate Atlantis plot.
__ Remembering a Atlantian past life.
__ Remembering a Mu past life.
__ Remembering a past life as a cow on Atlantis.
__ Forgetting to take my meds.
__ Taking someone else's meds I had stolen.
__ Playing with a short-wave radio.
__ Playing with a short WAVE nurse.
__ Playing with myself.
__ Playing with someone else...who looked just like me...
__ Listening to what God told me.
__ Listening to what Satan told me.
__ Listening to what George Bush Jr. told me (see directly above).
__ Listening to what somebody I can't reveal told me.
__ Listening to what I told myself, and in a different voice.
__ Studying NASA photos.
__ Studying cloud shapes.
__ Licking a toad.
__ Licking myself, while imagining I was a toad.
__ Eating mushrooms.
__ Breathing nitrous oxide.
__ Touching the Cosmos.
__ Touching the part of me that I call "The Toad".
__ Hearing the Music of The Spheres.
__ Tripping the light fantastic.
__Tripping over a light cord, and hitting my head.
__ Smelling something awful.
__ All of the above.
__ None of the above (explain...make it brief just for once...please?).
__________________________________________________ ___________________________________________
__________________________________________________ ___________________________________________

MY PROOF FOR THIS THEORY IS (check one):
__ None of your damn business.
__ Available on the web...if you knew where to look.
__ Being suppressed by the government.
__ Buried in the ruins of the World Trade Center.
__ Being held at the Nazi base in Antarctica.
__ Classified, with all the other Tesla patents.
__ Obvious to all who are "In The Know".
__ As yet hidden from the eyes of men.
__ Being spoken right now by that dog over there; not that your ears can
hear it.
__ Available for only $49.99.
__ How about $19.99 if you call within the next ten minutes?
__ Going to be revealed after their landing occurs.
__ Too terrible to be revealed...but I'll hint at it.
__ Kept in my doctor's secret files.
__ Kept in my secret files on my doctor.
__ All of the above.
__ All of the above...and then some.


Pat