Clean, Space Shuttle mission ! Liberals bummed out.....

wrote:
GatherNoMoss wrote:

My opinion of Liberals is so poor....So convinced am I of their
degenerate character...
that I do believe that Liberals are dissappointed that this Space
Shuttle mission was
a success.
Another dead shuttle crew would have fit their political ambitions
quite nicely.
Something else that was "Bush's" fault.

This is what happens when you adopt an "end justifies the means"
attitude as the
radical Leftist have.

Go ahead Lefties, protest...express your indignation.
I KNOW you people. You've dominated the US media for decades.
You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".
Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".


So, you giving Bush a golf clap for it coming off ok?

- Richard Hutnik


This is rocket science - far beyond the Shrub's capabilities.

"GatherNoMoss" wrote in message
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My opinion of Liberals is so poor....So convinced am I of their
degenerate character...
that I do believe that Liberals are dissappointed that this Space
Shuttle mission was
a success.
Another dead shuttle crew would have fit their political ambitions
quite nicely.
Something else that was "Bush's" fault.


You are clearly insane!

~e.


This is what happens when you adopt an "end justifies the means"
attitude as the
radical Leftist have.

Go ahead Lefties, protest...express your indignation.
I KNOW you people. You've dominated the US media for decades.
You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".
Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".

GatherNoMoss ) wrote:

: My opinion of Liberals is so poor....So convinced am I of their
: degenerate character...
: that I do believe that Liberals are dissappointed that this Space
: Shuttle mission was
: a success.
: Another dead shuttle crew would have fit their political ambitions
: quite nicely.
: Something else that was "Bush's" fault.

You act like Bush deserves credit for a successful shuttle mission. Do you
think he also deserves blame for the shuttle loss in 2003? How about
Reagan in 1986?

: This is what happens when you adopt an "end justifies the means"
: attitude as the
: radical Leftist have.

Nope, 'ends justifies the meens' is a right-wing tenet. Example: Shoot
them all and let God sort it out.

: Go ahead Lefties, protest...express your indignation.

Why? Just to make you happy?

: I KNOW you people. You've dominated the US media for decades.

Because they know how to read and write and you don't?

: You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".

You chose it on your own. As Lincoln stated, "people choose they're own
level of happiness".

: Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".

Sorry that you are defined in terms of your enemies. I don't agree with
you but I certainly don't think much about it. You on the other hand don't
agree with me and seem to be obsessed by it. If being obsessed with
anti-liberalism is the new conservatism, then I want no part of it. Don't
tell we what you aren't, tell me what you are, if anything...

Eric

Eric Chomko wrote:

You act like Bush deserves credit for a successful shuttle mission. Do you
think he also deserves blame for the shuttle loss in 2003? How about
Reagan in 1986?

I've encountered Liberals that DO blame them on these incidences.

: This is what happens when you adopt an "end justifies the means"
: attitude as the
: radical Leftist have.

Nope, 'ends justifies the meens' is a right-wing tenet. Example: Shoot
them all and let God sort it out.

Wrong.

To Machiavelli (1469-1527) is often attributed the statement, "the
good end justifies the means". I am not aware of him using that
phrase, even in Italian, but the idea is the thing. It is for this
reason that Machiavelli is on the catholic Index (list of banned
books).

"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that
justifies the end."
Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)

"The end does not justify the means. No one's rights can be secured
by the violation of the rights of others."
Ayn Rand (1905-82 )

Ayn Rand was a virulent anti-communist.

John Dewey (1859-1952). This site contains much discussion and
criticism of Dewey. He was a communist.

"Dewey's life-theme was to destroy in men's minds the idea of the
individual. Working towards that goal, he promoted the kind of
education that would create docile men easily ruled, and he promoted
the kind of government that would do the ruling - a statist government
where any "recalcitrant minority" would be dealt with by violence. He
called the destruction of the individual "new individualism," his
homogenizing educational theory "progressive education," and his ideal
socialist/fascist government variously "democracy," "socialism," and
"democratic socialism."
-
"The following is from Dewey's essay "Means and Ends" which he
submitted to the communist journal The New International (subtitled: "A
Monthly Organ of Revolutionary Marxism") and which was published in
vol. 4, Aug. 1938 page 232 (Later Works, vol. 13 page 349). Dewey
discusses an earlier essay in the same journal by Trotsky.

"Since Mr. Trotsky also indicates that the only alternative position
to the idea that the end justifies the means is some form of
absolutistic ethics based on ... some brand of eternal truths, I wish
to say that I write from a standpoint that rejects all such doctrines
as definitely as does Mr. Trotsky himself, and that I hold that the end
in the sense of consequences provides the only basis for moral ideas
and action, and therefore provides the only justification that can be
found for means employed. (Page 350.)

http://www.abelard.org/briefings/end...ns.php#trotsky


: You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".

You chose it on your own. As Lincoln stated, "people choose they're own
level of happiness".

Who said I "choose" to be cynical ? I said I learned it's meaning by
observing the Left.

: Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:35:58 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
(Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Nope, 'ends justifies the meens' is a right-wing tenet. Example: Shoot
them all and let God sort it out.

No, it's traditionally associated with the left (even when spelled
properly), particularly the Stalinist left. And your example is
idiotic (as usual), since it has nothing to do with the ends
justifying the means.

On 17 Jul 2006 07:10:21 -0700, "GatherNoMoss" wrote
(in part):

I KNOW you people. You've dominated the US media for decades.
You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".
Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".

All this time, and you haven't realized...

Karl Rove is not a liberal.

GatherNoMoss wrote:
My opinion of Liberals is so poor....So convinced am I of their
degenerate character...
that I do believe that Liberals are dissappointed that this Space
Shuttle mission was
a success.
Another dead shuttle crew would have fit their political ambitions
quite nicely.
Something else that was "Bush's" fault.

This is what happens when you adopt an "end justifies the means"
attitude as the
radical Leftist have.

Go ahead Lefties, protest...express your indignation.
I KNOW you people. You've dominated the US media for decades.
You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".
Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".


Your hate is your concern...

I am surprised that this sick **** gets so many responses.


"GatherNoMoss" wrote in message
ups.com...

My opinion of Liberals is so poor....So convinced am I of their
degenerate character...
that I do believe that Liberals are dissappointed that this Space
Shuttle mission was
a success.
Another dead shuttle crew would have fit their political ambitions
quite nicely.
Something else that was "Bush's" fault.

This is what happens when you adopt an "end justifies the means"
attitude as the
radical Leftist have.

Go ahead Lefties, protest...express your indignation.
I KNOW you people. You've dominated the US media for decades.
You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".
Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".

On 17 Jul 2006 07:10:21 -0700, "GatherNoMoss"
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

My opinion of Liberals is so poor....So convinced am I of their
degenerate character...
that I do believe that Liberals are dissappointed that this Space
Shuttle mission was
a success.

I would say the opposite.

Consider it was the liberals worried about going ahead when there was
dissent about the safety.

I was liberals worried that about Bush's threat to cut the space
program if there were one more mishap. It looked as if Bush was trying
to create one.

Of course liberals are happy the mission went ok. We are sick of
money being wasted on petty wars that could be spent on our future,
like space exploration and space-based energy collection.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
Who's in charge Cheney or Bush? Ask the people who work for them:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

GatherNoMoss wrote:
My opinion of Liberals is so poor....So convinced am I of their
degenerate character...
that I do believe that Liberals are dissappointed that this Space
Shuttle mission was
a success.
Another dead shuttle crew would have fit their political ambitions
quite nicely.
Something else that was "Bush's" fault.

This is what happens when you adopt an "end justifies the means"
attitude as the
radical Leftist have.

Go ahead Lefties, protest...express your indignation.
I KNOW you people. You've dominated the US media for decades.
You taught me the true meaning of "cynical".
Cynical as in " selfishly or callously calculating ".


You are truly an idiot.

A liberal Democatic President put America on the road to landing on the
moon.

It has been liberals in the forefront of the space program.