Will Moon Robot Fly?

On Jan 20, 4:19*pm, William Mook wrote:
On Jan 17, 4:53*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:15*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:03*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 14, 1:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 1:13 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 2:21 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:18 wrote:

The world has already fallen apart. Or hadn't you noticed?

I've noticed for at least the past 11 years, although I knew something
was terribly screwed up ever since they took out JFK. Like yourself,
at the time I just didn't know how to fix it. Now we each know how to
fix at least parts of it.

Are you ready?

What? We're going to see the two of you march into the sea?

Notice there are at least two Mooks', and only one Guth.

And between the three of you you can muster a dull normal intellect
and a whole volcano full of steaming molten crazy.

How many Fred McCalls' have we?

YOU don't have any...

So you're not going to share how many Fred McCall clones or bipolar
clowns of whatever pretend or bogus existence we have to work with.

You're insane and I don't want to share your insanity.

Obviously you don't exist as any real person, but then who outside of
myself and a few others in Google Groups or Usenet/newsgroups does.

Let's not tell my company that, ok? *Why, if they found out I "don't
exist as any real person" they might stop paying me all this money...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

Are all mainstreamers like yourself dysfunctional or simply bipolar?

Well, I went mountain hiking in the summer heat without my hat three
days ago and while I finished the 14 km trek, I suffered heat stroke.
Just got up enough energy to turn my computer on. *I'll be out of here
Thursday. *Don't go hiking without yer hat mate. *Especially if you're
starting to bald on the top! *lol. *I'm 58 trying to keep up with the
20 somethings. *Now, they'll be calling me the soft Yankee forever.
bleh.

We're supposed to start getting seriously nailed by halo CMEs like
never before, and with Earth losing its helium plus a few other low
density elements, that's not good. *By the end of 2012 could be enough
CME trauma to take out significant power grids for days on end,
causing billions per day in production losses and even indirectly
responsible for killing some of us, because most everything we do is
dependent upon energy unless you happen to live in North Korea or in
many other locations that still do not have a power grid or even a
local power generating plant.

We've even made commercial lamp oil (kerosene) too spendy for many
that have no other option but fire, and propane is simply too spendy
as well as potentially more lethal than natural gas.

Of course we could continue creating as much artificial CO2, NOx and
complex soot (none of which is good for ourselves or the global
biodiversity) to go along with all the extra fresh water evaporation,
and don't forget those Corexit modified hydrocarbons of natural gasses
plus evaporated oil with known toxins as we can possibly muster, and
thereby protecting those of us from excessive solar and lunar
radiation as long as we keep ourselves well below 1.83 km (6000').

Yourself, Steven Chu and I could fix a number of things that are
currently dysfunctional and/or going from bad to worse. *Problem is
that wealthy enough and available talent and/or expertise from
individuals like yourself are not performing at 10% of your potential,
mostly because you don't want to rock any of those mainstream boats,
much less on your nickle or forbid revise any of their history so that
the rest of us can figure out who, what, when and why so much has gone
sour on us.

Clearly our "Fred J. McCall" is another one of those mainstream
insiders that you can't possibly convince of anything (good or bad),
nor gain any secret or need-to-know knowledge from. *In other words,
he's kinda another all-knowing opposite one of you, and so why bother?

TheMookthink-tank has how many paid members besides yourself?

Outside of Google Groups and their version of Usenet/newsgroups that
are global accessible as unmoderated and easily translated, what
mainstream publications and/or K12 textbooks are covering whatever the
Mookthink-tank has to say?

*~ BG

Coronal Mass Ejections (CME) can have quite devastating effects. *and
they periodically can be quite large. *Just look at this one moving
toward the heliopause!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co..._moving_toward....

Now, to give some sense of size, the circles are the orbits of the
planets (plus Pluto) inward to Jupiter and the specks CME events. *The
inner solar system is flooded with them.

The most recent was on 1 August 2010, during solar cycle 24,
scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA)
observed a series of four large CMEs emanating from the Earth-facing
hemisphere. The initial CME was generated by an eruption on August 1
associated with sunspot 1092, a sunspot which was large enough to be
seen without the aid of a solar telescope. The event produced
significant aurorae on August 4.

The big cloud past the solar system came from the sun in 1859 and
originated in Solar Cycle 10 - from the Carrington Event - the only
sunspot on record that was viewed without a telescope - and provided
the first observational evidence that the sun ejected mass.

From the size and density of the CME it likely would have blanketed
the Earth for several years - though some months way from the
direction of travel through the inner solar system - the Earth would
be clear. *Fortunately, we did not have electrical systems to worry
about in 1859. *We do have such system today.

Of course, I have proposed for several years now that we create an all
optical power/transportation grid. *haha - but, I think the reasons
for doing so extend well beyond our present grid's vulnerables to
solar cycles.

We have far more serious things to worry about however than solar
cycles. *Things like the possibility of treason in high office. *I am
flabbergasted that the possibility of treason isn't taken more
seriously and dealt with.

I can totally agree with that. *It seems public elected and/or their
appointed crew of brown-nosed minions are for the most part exempt
from the laws of treason and especially high treason, perhaps because
they get to pardon themselves and otherwise control what little if
anything gets officially recorded as history.

I consider what the Ponzi Madoff semitic approved SEC did was worthy
of at least basic treason, if not high treason because it was clearly
a conspiratorial act of war against Americans plus anyone else that
got in their greedy way. *The WTC 9/11 fiasco and perhaps even the TWA
flight 800 thing should have each involved multiple counts of treason
and possibly a few high treason convictions. *But then this is the
golden land of perpetual milk and honey, at least for those that know
how best to take from others.

*~ BG

The New World Order is a fait accompli. *The only way to proceed is to
put in place a fuse. *To secretly penetrate and maintain control of
the permanent inner security apparatus so that when failure is
imminent implement systems that quickly transition to emergent self
organizing systems free of central control.

And supposedly you have the only viable plan of action that'll save us
from ourselves?

Where's the Mook Think Tank of all those others you'd trust, and how
well is it going?

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Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Jan 21, 2:10*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 7:19*pm, William Mook wrote:



On Jan 17, 4:53*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:15*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:03*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 14, 1:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 1:13 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 2:21 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:18 wrote:

The world has already fallen apart. Or hadn't you noticed?

I've noticed for at least the past 11 years, although I knew something
was terribly screwed up ever since they took out JFK.. Like yourself,
at the time I just didn't know how to fix it. Now we each know how to
fix at least parts of it.

Are you ready?

What? We're going to see the two of you march into the sea?

Notice there are at least two Mooks', and only one Guth..

And between the three of you you can muster a dull normal intellect
and a whole volcano full of steaming molten crazy.

How many Fred McCalls' have we?

YOU don't have any...

So you're not going to share how many Fred McCall clones or bipolar
clowns of whatever pretend or bogus existence we have to work with.

You're insane and I don't want to share your insanity.

Obviously you don't exist as any real person, but then who outside of
myself and a few others in Google Groups or Usenet/newsgroups does.

Let's not tell my company that, ok? *Why, if they found out I "don't
exist as any real person" they might stop paying me all this money...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

Are all mainstreamers like yourself dysfunctional or simply bipolar?

Well, I went mountain hiking in the summer heat without my hat three
days ago and while I finished the 14 km trek, I suffered heat stroke.
Just got up enough energy to turn my computer on. *I'll be out of here
Thursday. *Don't go hiking without yer hat mate. *Especially if you're
starting to bald on the top! *lol. *I'm 58 trying to keep up with the
20 somethings. *Now, they'll be calling me the soft Yankee forever.
bleh.

We're supposed to start getting seriously nailed by halo CMEs like
never before, and with Earth losing its helium plus a few other low
density elements, that's not good. *By the end of 2012 could be enough
CME trauma to take out significant power grids for days on end,
causing billions per day in production losses and even indirectly
responsible for killing some of us, because most everything we do is
dependent upon energy unless you happen to live in North Korea or in
many other locations that still do not have a power grid or even a
local power generating plant.

We've even made commercial lamp oil (kerosene) too spendy for many
that have no other option but fire, and propane is simply too spendy
as well as potentially more lethal than natural gas.

Of course we could continue creating as much artificial CO2, NOx and
complex soot (none of which is good for ourselves or the global
biodiversity) to go along with all the extra fresh water evaporation,
and don't forget those Corexit modified hydrocarbons of natural gasses
plus evaporated oil with known toxins as we can possibly muster, and
thereby protecting those of us from excessive solar and lunar
radiation as long as we keep ourselves well below 1.83 km (6000')..

Yourself, Steven Chu and I could fix a number of things that are
currently dysfunctional and/or going from bad to worse. *Problem is
that wealthy enough and available talent and/or expertise from
individuals like yourself are not performing at 10% of your potential,
mostly because you don't want to rock any of those mainstream boats,
much less on your nickle or forbid revise any of their history so that
the rest of us can figure out who, what, when and why so much has gone
sour on us.

Clearly our "Fred J. McCall" is another one of those mainstream
insiders that you can't possibly convince of anything (good or bad),
nor gain any secret or need-to-know knowledge from. *In other words,
he's kinda another all-knowing opposite one of you, and so why bother?

TheMookthink-tank has how many paid members besides yourself?

Outside of Google Groups and their version of Usenet/newsgroups that
are global accessible as unmoderated and easily translated, what
mainstream publications and/or K12 textbooks are covering whatever the
Mookthink-tank has to say?

*~ BG

Coronal Mass Ejections (CME) can have quite devastating effects. *and
they periodically can be quite large. *Just look at this one moving
toward the heliopause!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co..._moving_toward...

Now, to give some sense of size, the circles are the orbits of the
planets (plus Pluto) inward to Jupiter and the specks CME events. *The
inner solar system is flooded with them.

The most recent was on 1 August 2010, during solar cycle 24,
scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA)
observed a series of four large CMEs emanating from the Earth-facing
hemisphere. The initial CME was generated by an eruption on August 1
associated with sunspot 1092, a sunspot which was large enough to be
seen without the aid of a solar telescope. The event produced
significant aurorae on August 4.

The big cloud past the solar system came from the sun in 1859 and
originated in Solar Cycle 10 - from the Carrington Event - the only
sunspot on record that was viewed without a telescope - and provided
the first observational evidence that the sun ejected mass.

From the size and density of the CME it likely would have blanketed
the Earth for several years - though some months way from the
direction of travel through the inner solar system - the Earth would
be clear. *Fortunately, we did not have electrical systems to worry
about in 1859. *We do have such system today.

Of course, I have proposed for several years now that we create an all
optical power/transportation grid. *haha - but, I think the reasons
for doing so extend well beyond our present grid's vulnerables to
solar cycles.

We have far more serious things to worry about however than solar
cycles. *Things like the possibility of treason in high office. *I am
flabbergasted that the possibility of treason isn't taken more
seriously and dealt with.

I can totally agree with that. *It seems public elected and/or their
appointed crew of brown-nosed minions are for the most part exempt
from the laws of treason and especially high treason, perhaps because
they get to pardon themselves and otherwise control what little if
anything gets officially recorded as history.

I consider what the Ponzi Madoff semitic approved SEC did was worthy
of at least basic treason, if not high treason because it was clearly
a conspiratorial act of war against Americans plus anyone else that
got in their greedy way. *The WTC 9/11 fiasco and perhaps even the TWA
flight 800 thing should have each involved multiple counts of treason
and possibly a few high treason convictions. *But then this is the
golden land of perpetual milk and honey, at least for those that know
how best to take from others.

*~ BG

The New World Order is a fait accompli. *The only way to proceed is to
put in place a fuse. *To secretly penetrate and maintain control of
the permanent inner security apparatus so that when failure is
imminent implement systems that quickly transition to emergent self
organizing systems free of central control.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1009.html

I've always thought of Brad as 'Team B'

and Findley and Frank (the F's) as 'Team F' or A if you complete the
stroke

Brad is a contractor who has severe deficits in properly interpreting
what the media provides. *The F's do not have such obvious deficits,
though they certainly have a specific POV (point of view) based on
what the media provides.

The problem in dealing with what the media provides is that it is all
un-fair and un-balanced

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1012.html

Which may be shaped to any end desired

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1008.html

by avoiding critical analysis and information

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/96.html

So when is the global Mook media network going to emerge and start
telling each of us exactly what and how to think?

After all, if you want us to believe 100% of everything the Mook NWO
has to say, as being the one and only whole truth and nothing but the
truth, then we need to be properly indoctrinated so that we never
attempt to think or deductively ponder on behalf of anything that
isn't Mook approved to begin with.

Trust me, for this plan of yours to work you'll need a greater
following than just myself.

Start telling us who else is on your A-Team, so that we get to hear
exactly whatever they have to say. Better yet, demonstrate by way of
your actions, thus showing us how it's supposed to be done.

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Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Jan 21, 5:31*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:15*pm, William Mook wrote:



On Jan 17, 4:53*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:15*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:03*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 14, 1:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 1:13 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 2:21 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:18 wrote:

The world has already fallen apart. Or hadn't you noticed?

I've noticed for at least the past 11 years, although I knew something
was terribly screwed up ever since they took out JFK.. Like yourself,
at the time I just didn't know how to fix it. Now we each know how to
fix at least parts of it.

Are you ready?

What? We're going to see the two of you march into the sea?

Notice there are at least two Mooks', and only one Guth..

And between the three of you you can muster a dull normal intellect
and a whole volcano full of steaming molten crazy.

How many Fred McCalls' have we?

YOU don't have any...

So you're not going to share how many Fred McCall clones or bipolar
clowns of whatever pretend or bogus existence we have to work with.

You're insane and I don't want to share your insanity.

Obviously you don't exist as any real person, but then who outside of
myself and a few others in Google Groups or Usenet/newsgroups does.

Let's not tell my company that, ok? *Why, if they found out I "don't
exist as any real person" they might stop paying me all this money...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

Are all mainstreamers like yourself dysfunctional or simply bipolar?

Well, I went mountain hiking in the summer heat without my hat three
days ago and while I finished the 14 km trek, I suffered heat stroke.
Just got up enough energy to turn my computer on. *I'll be out of here
Thursday. *Don't go hiking without yer hat mate. *Especially if you're
starting to bald on the top! *lol. *I'm 58 trying to keep up with the
20 somethings. *Now, they'll be calling me the soft Yankee forever.
bleh.

We're supposed to start getting seriously nailed by halo CMEs like
never before, and with Earth losing its helium plus a few other low
density elements, that's not good. *By the end of 2012 could be enough
CME trauma to take out significant power grids for days on end,
causing billions per day in production losses and even indirectly
responsible for killing some of us, because most everything we do is
dependent upon energy unless you happen to live in North Korea or in
many other locations that still do not have a power grid or even a
local power generating plant.

We've even made commercial lamp oil (kerosene) too spendy for many
that have no other option but fire, and propane is simply too spendy
as well as potentially more lethal than natural gas.

Of course we could continue creating as much artificial CO2, NOx and
complex soot (none of which is good for ourselves or the global
biodiversity) to go along with all the extra fresh water evaporation,
and don't forget those Corexit modified hydrocarbons of natural gasses
plus evaporated oil with known toxins as we can possibly muster, and
thereby protecting those of us from excessive solar and lunar
radiation as long as we keep ourselves well below 1.83 km (6000')..

Yourself, Steven Chu and I could fix a number of things that are
currently dysfunctional and/or going from bad to worse. *Problem is
that wealthy enough and available talent and/or expertise from
individuals like yourself are not performing at 10% of your potential,
mostly because you don't want to rock any of those mainstream boats,
much less on your nickle or forbid revise any of their history so that
the rest of us can figure out who, what, when and why so much has gone
sour on us.

Clearly our "Fred J. McCall" is another one of those mainstream
insiders that you can't possibly convince of anything (good or bad),
nor gain any secret or need-to-know knowledge from. *In other words,
he's kinda another all-knowing opposite one of you, and so why bother?

TheMookthink-tank has how many paid members besides yourself?

Outside of Google Groups and their version of Usenet/newsgroups that
are global accessible as unmoderated and easily translated, what
mainstream publications and/or K12 textbooks are covering whatever the
Mookthink-tank has to say?

*~ BG

Coronal Mass Ejections (CME) can have quite devastating effects. *and
they periodically can be quite large. *Just look at this one moving
toward the heliopause!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co..._moving_toward...

Now, to give some sense of size, the circles are the orbits of the
planets (plus Pluto) inward to Jupiter and the specks CME events. *The
inner solar system is flooded with them.

The most recent was on 1 August 2010, during solar cycle 24,
scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA)
observed a series of four large CMEs emanating from the Earth-facing
hemisphere. The initial CME was generated by an eruption on August 1
associated with sunspot 1092, a sunspot which was large enough to be
seen without the aid of a solar telescope. The event produced
significant aurorae on August 4.

The big cloud past the solar system came from the sun in 1859 and
originated in Solar Cycle 10 - from the Carrington Event - the only
sunspot on record that was viewed without a telescope - and provided
the first observational evidence that the sun ejected mass.

From the size and density of the CME it likely would have blanketed
the Earth for several years - though some months way from the
direction of travel through the inner solar system - the Earth would
be clear. *Fortunately, we did not have electrical systems to worry
about in 1859. *We do have such system today.

Of course, I have proposed for several years now that we create an all
optical power/transportation grid. *haha - but, I think the reasons
for doing so extend well beyond our present grid's vulnerables to
solar cycles.

We have far more serious things to worry about however than solar
cycles. *Things like the possibility of treason in high office. *I am
flabbergasted that the possibility of treason isn't taken more
seriously and dealt with.

I can totally agree with that. *It seems public elected and/or their
appointed crew of brown-nosed minions are for the most part exempt
from the laws of treason and especially high treason, perhaps because
they get to pardon themselves and otherwise control what little if
anything gets officially recorded as history.

I consider what the Ponzi Madoff semitic approved SEC did was worthy
of at least basic treason, if not high treason because it was clearly
a conspiratorial act of war against Americans plus anyone else that
got in their greedy way. *The WTC 9/11 fiasco and perhaps even the TWA
flight 800 thing should have each involved multiple counts of treason
and possibly a few high treason convictions. *But then this is the
golden land of perpetual milk and honey, at least for those that know
how best to take from others.

*~ BG

Madoff is the scapegoat not the problem. *The problem is that existing
power systems suffer from common mode failure and that will inevitably
lead to abject failure of the first (and hopefully only) scientific
dictatorship brought about the Fabians. *Hopefully they will see that
before the engineered collapse is completed. *But, these folks are men
and women inured to the benefits and privileges of power, not
scientific leaders, and so suffer from a variety of human failings
when applying the same ruthless analysis to themselves and their
programs that are needed for what are unfortunate truths for the
many. *For example, one unfortunate truth the leadership ignores is
common mode failure. *Another unfortunate truth is that the circle of
an organic diversity of abilities and opinions joined in a memetic
ecology that provides natural network of that supports efficient
growth in all directions performs better than the pyramid of power
which invites destruction, because the survival of the many is
balanced precariously on the insights and abilities of the few - which
guarantees collapse.

In other words, you now concur that I'm right about those of the past
controlling the present and future, including those keeping you down
and out of the game.

So how are we, or ...

read more »

You are not right about anything as far as I can tell. I know it is
important for you to be right at all costs. That I think is your
problem.

On Jan 21, 5:37*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:19*pm, William Mook wrote:



On Jan 17, 4:53*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:15*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:03*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 14, 1:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 1:13 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 2:21 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:18 wrote:

The world has already fallen apart. Or hadn't you noticed?

I've noticed for at least the past 11 years, although I knew something
was terribly screwed up ever since they took out JFK.. Like yourself,
at the time I just didn't know how to fix it. Now we each know how to
fix at least parts of it.

Are you ready?

What? We're going to see the two of you march into the sea?

Notice there are at least two Mooks', and only one Guth..

And between the three of you you can muster a dull normal intellect
and a whole volcano full of steaming molten crazy.

How many Fred McCalls' have we?

YOU don't have any...

So you're not going to share how many Fred McCall clones or bipolar
clowns of whatever pretend or bogus existence we have to work with.

You're insane and I don't want to share your insanity.

Obviously you don't exist as any real person, but then who outside of
myself and a few others in Google Groups or Usenet/newsgroups does.

Let's not tell my company that, ok? *Why, if they found out I "don't
exist as any real person" they might stop paying me all this money...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

Are all mainstreamers like yourself dysfunctional or simply bipolar?

Well, I went mountain hiking in the summer heat without my hat three
days ago and while I finished the 14 km trek, I suffered heat stroke.
Just got up enough energy to turn my computer on. *I'll be out of here
Thursday. *Don't go hiking without yer hat mate. *Especially if you're
starting to bald on the top! *lol. *I'm 58 trying to keep up with the
20 somethings. *Now, they'll be calling me the soft Yankee forever.
bleh.

We're supposed to start getting seriously nailed by halo CMEs like
never before, and with Earth losing its helium plus a few other low
density elements, that's not good. *By the end of 2012 could be enough
CME trauma to take out significant power grids for days on end,
causing billions per day in production losses and even indirectly
responsible for killing some of us, because most everything we do is
dependent upon energy unless you happen to live in North Korea or in
many other locations that still do not have a power grid or even a
local power generating plant.

We've even made commercial lamp oil (kerosene) too spendy for many
that have no other option but fire, and propane is simply too spendy
as well as potentially more lethal than natural gas.

Of course we could continue creating as much artificial CO2, NOx and
complex soot (none of which is good for ourselves or the global
biodiversity) to go along with all the extra fresh water evaporation,
and don't forget those Corexit modified hydrocarbons of natural gasses
plus evaporated oil with known toxins as we can possibly muster, and
thereby protecting those of us from excessive solar and lunar
radiation as long as we keep ourselves well below 1.83 km (6000')..

Yourself, Steven Chu and I could fix a number of things that are
currently dysfunctional and/or going from bad to worse. *Problem is
that wealthy enough and available talent and/or expertise from
individuals like yourself are not performing at 10% of your potential,
mostly because you don't want to rock any of those mainstream boats,
much less on your nickle or forbid revise any of their history so that
the rest of us can figure out who, what, when and why so much has gone
sour on us.

Clearly our "Fred J. McCall" is another one of those mainstream
insiders that you can't possibly convince of anything (good or bad),
nor gain any secret or need-to-know knowledge from. *In other words,
he's kinda another all-knowing opposite one of you, and so why bother?

TheMookthink-tank has how many paid members besides yourself?

Outside of Google Groups and their version of Usenet/newsgroups that
are global accessible as unmoderated and easily translated, what
mainstream publications and/or K12 textbooks are covering whatever the
Mookthink-tank has to say?

*~ BG

Coronal Mass Ejections (CME) can have quite devastating effects. *and
they periodically can be quite large. *Just look at this one moving
toward the heliopause!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co..._moving_toward...

Now, to give some sense of size, the circles are the orbits of the
planets (plus Pluto) inward to Jupiter and the specks CME events. *The
inner solar system is flooded with them.

The most recent was on 1 August 2010, during solar cycle 24,
scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA)
observed a series of four large CMEs emanating from the Earth-facing
hemisphere. The initial CME was generated by an eruption on August 1
associated with sunspot 1092, a sunspot which was large enough to be
seen without the aid of a solar telescope. The event produced
significant aurorae on August 4.

The big cloud past the solar system came from the sun in 1859 and
originated in Solar Cycle 10 - from the Carrington Event - the only
sunspot on record that was viewed without a telescope - and provided
the first observational evidence that the sun ejected mass.

From the size and density of the CME it likely would have blanketed
the Earth for several years - though some months way from the
direction of travel through the inner solar system - the Earth would
be clear. *Fortunately, we did not have electrical systems to worry
about in 1859. *We do have such system today.

Of course, I have proposed for several years now that we create an all
optical power/transportation grid. *haha - but, I think the reasons
for doing so extend well beyond our present grid's vulnerables to
solar cycles.

We have far more serious things to worry about however than solar
cycles. *Things like the possibility of treason in high office. *I am
flabbergasted that the possibility of treason isn't taken more
seriously and dealt with.

I can totally agree with that. *It seems public elected and/or their
appointed crew of brown-nosed minions are for the most part exempt
from the laws of treason and especially high treason, perhaps because
they get to pardon themselves and otherwise control what little if
anything gets officially recorded as history.

I consider what the Ponzi Madoff semitic approved SEC did was worthy
of at least basic treason, if not high treason because it was clearly
a conspiratorial act of war against Americans plus anyone else that
got in their greedy way. *The WTC 9/11 fiasco and perhaps even the TWA
flight 800 thing should have each involved multiple counts of treason
and possibly a few high treason convictions. *But then this is the
golden land of perpetual milk and honey, at least for those that know
how best to take from others.

*~ BG

The New World Order is a fait accompli. *The only way to proceed is to
put in place a fuse. *To secretly penetrate and maintain control of
the permanent inner security apparatus so that when failure is
imminent implement systems that quickly transition to emergent self
organizing systems free of central control.

And supposedly you have the only viable plan of action that'll save us
from ourselves?

Where's the Mook Think Tank of all those others you'd trust, and how
well is it going?

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We don't have to be saved from ourselves, we are not the problem.

On Jan 25, 11:25*am, wrote:
On Jan 21, 5:37*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



On Jan 20, 4:19*pm, William Mook wrote:

On Jan 17, 4:53*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:15*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 17, wrote:

On Jan 15, 5:03*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Jan 14, 1:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 1:13 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 14, 2:21 am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:18 wrote:

The world has already fallen apart. Or hadn't you noticed?

I've noticed for at least the past 11 years, although I knew something
was terribly screwed up ever since they took out JFK. Like yourself,
at the time I just didn't know how to fix it. Now we each know how to
fix at least parts of it.

Are you ready?

What? We're going to see the two of you march into the sea?

Notice there are at least two Mooks', and only one Guth.

And between the three of you you can muster a dull normal intellect
and a whole volcano full of steaming molten crazy.

How many Fred McCalls' have we?

YOU don't have any...

So you're not going to share how many Fred McCall clones or bipolar
clowns of whatever pretend or bogus existence we have to work with.

You're insane and I don't want to share your insanity.

Obviously you don't exist as any real person, but then who outside of
myself and a few others in Google Groups or Usenet/newsgroups does.

Let's not tell my company that, ok? *Why, if they found out I "don't
exist as any real person" they might stop paying me all this money...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

Are all mainstreamers like yourself dysfunctional or simply bipolar?

Well, I went mountain hiking in the summer heat without my hat three
days ago and while I finished the 14 km trek, I suffered heat stroke.
Just got up enough energy to turn my computer on. *I'll be out of here
Thursday. *Don't go hiking without yer hat mate. *Especially if you're
starting to bald on the top! *lol. *I'm 58 trying to keep up with the
20 somethings. *Now, they'll be calling me the soft Yankee forever.
bleh.

We're supposed to start getting seriously nailed by halo CMEs like
never before, and with Earth losing its helium plus a few other low
density elements, that's not good. *By the end of 2012 could be enough
CME trauma to take out significant power grids for days on end,
causing billions per day in production losses and even indirectly
responsible for killing some of us, because most everything we do is
dependent upon energy unless you happen to live in North Korea or in
many other locations that still do not have a power grid or even a
local power generating plant.

We've even made commercial lamp oil (kerosene) too spendy for many
that have no other option but fire, and propane is simply too spendy
as well as potentially more lethal than natural gas.

Of course we could continue creating as much artificial CO2, NOx and
complex soot (none of which is good for ourselves or the global
biodiversity) to go along with all the extra fresh water evaporation,
and don't forget those Corexit modified hydrocarbons of natural gasses
plus evaporated oil with known toxins as we can possibly muster, and
thereby protecting those of us from excessive solar and lunar
radiation as long as we keep ourselves well below 1.83 km (6000').

Yourself, Steven Chu and I could fix a number of things that are
currently dysfunctional and/or going from bad to worse. *Problem is
that wealthy enough and available talent and/or expertise from
individuals like yourself are not performing at 10% of your potential,
mostly because you don't want to rock any of those mainstream boats,
much less on your nickle or forbid revise any of their history so that
the rest of us can figure out who, what, when and why so much has gone
sour on us.

Clearly our "Fred J. McCall" is another one of those mainstream
insiders that you can't possibly convince of anything (good or bad),
nor gain any secret or need-to-know knowledge from. *In other words,
he's kinda another all-knowing opposite one of you, and so why bother?

TheMookthink-tank has how many paid members besides yourself?

Outside of Google Groups and their version of Usenet/newsgroups that
are global accessible as unmoderated and easily translated, what
mainstream publications and/or K12 textbooks are covering whatever the
Mookthink-tank has to say?

*~ BG

Coronal Mass Ejections (CME) can have quite devastating effects. *and
they periodically can be quite large. *Just look at this one moving
toward the heliopause!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co..._moving_toward...

Now, to give some sense of size, the circles are the orbits of the
planets (plus Pluto) inward to Jupiter and the specks CME events. *The
inner solar system is flooded with them.

The most recent was on 1 August 2010, during solar cycle 24,
scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA)
observed a series of four large CMEs emanating from the Earth-facing
hemisphere. The initial CME was generated by an eruption on August 1
associated with sunspot 1092, a sunspot which was large enough to be
seen without the aid of a solar telescope. The event produced
significant aurorae on August 4.

The big cloud past the solar system came from the sun in 1859 and
originated in Solar Cycle 10 - from the Carrington Event - the only
sunspot on record that was viewed without a telescope - and provided
the first observational evidence that the sun ejected mass.

From the size and density of the CME it likely would have blanketed
the Earth for several years - though some months way from the
direction of travel through the inner solar system - the Earth would
be clear. *Fortunately, we did not have electrical systems to worry
about in 1859. *We do have such system today.

Of course, I have proposed for several years now that we create an all
optical power/transportation grid. *haha - but, I think the reasons
for doing so extend well beyond our present grid's vulnerables to
solar cycles.

We have far more serious things to worry about however than solar
cycles. *Things like the possibility of treason in high office. *I am
flabbergasted that the possibility of treason isn't taken more
seriously and dealt with.

I can totally agree with that. *It seems public elected and/or their
appointed crew of brown-nosed minions are for the most part exempt
from the laws of treason and especially high treason, perhaps because
they get to pardon themselves and otherwise control what little if
anything gets officially recorded as history.

I consider what the Ponzi Madoff semitic approved SEC did was worthy
of at least basic treason, if not high treason because it was clearly
a conspiratorial act of war against Americans plus anyone else that
got in their greedy way. *The WTC 9/11 fiasco and perhaps even the TWA
flight 800 thing should have each involved multiple counts of treason
and possibly a few high treason convictions. *But then this is the
golden land of perpetual milk and honey, at least for those that know
how best to take from others.

*~ BG

The New World Order is a fait accompli. *The only way to proceed is to
put in place a fuse. *To secretly penetrate and maintain control of
the permanent inner security apparatus so that when failure is
imminent implement systems that quickly transition to emergent self
organizing systems free of central control.

And supposedly you have the only viable plan of action that'll save us
from ourselves?

Where's the Mook Think Tank of all those others you'd trust, and how
well is it going?

*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

We don't have to be saved from ourselves, we are not the problem.

You mean there's some other intelligent species on this planet that as
been responsible for all the screw-ups?

Perhaps it's the ants, because they collectively exceed at mass and
and at adapting in spite of what we've done to their planet, compared
to our puny 1 ppm pathetic worth of biomass that can't seem to figure
anything out, whereas ants well be here long after we've done
ourselves in.

Perhaps it's because ants don't lie, don't have any voodoo faith-based
cloak or pretend that other ants are hiding WMD, nor do they act/react
like anything other than what they really are. Those resourceful ants
also have a well established caste system that has more than survived
the test of time.

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On Jan 25, 11:24*am, wrote:

You are not right about anything as far as I can tell. *I know it is
important for you to be right at all costs. *That I think is your
problem.

Could you possibly quot more next time?

Does quoting everything under the sun make you some kind of superior
wizard of Oz?

From someone that can't even deliver a commercial tonne of Mook solar
derived hydrogen, and thereby can't demonstrate squat or much less
lead by example, your point about not being right about anything is?

At least I know how to properly enlarge a 36:1 stacked digital SAR
composite image. Can you do as well?

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