Nearest exoplanet

I did not know that Venus was anything more than a red hot planet with
sulphuric acid clouds. I understand bacteria are suspected as being present
in the atmosphere.

Did you know that believing there is life on mars is a executable offence.

Of course there is no life on Mars, only shadows.

Chris.
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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Chris,
If you're out and about looking for the best ever and most local UFO
park-n-ride, look no further than the tarmac that's situated upon
Venus, or are you as intellectually blind as well as dumb and dumber
and thus easily dumbfounded and snookered to boot?

What exactly is it about Venus that you do not understand?

BTW; Venus isn't quite as old as Earth (could be at least a billion
years newer), at least not for it's being within the orbit and as
geologically active (atmospheric building phase) as it is.
~

This is about a basic Township, Bridge & Tarmac upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
China/Russian LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
A few alternative topics from wizard Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Chris,
Your thoughts about our moon and Venus are a little mainstream tainted,
as were mine until a little over five years ago.

Chris no-spam Jun 28, 5:46 pm
I did not know that Venus was anything more than a red hot planet with
sulphuric acid clouds. I understand bacteria are suspected as being pres=
ent
in the atmosphere.

Did you know that believing there is life on mars is a executable offence.

Of course there is no life on Mars, only shadows

You are however 100% correct about Mars and those highly executable
offences, and your "life on Mars, only shadows" is also a true
statement in that once upon a time there was a humanly livable
environment upon the older than Earth planet of Mars.

Venus is somewhat newer than and obviously still quite a bit warmer
than Earth but, the available heat upon Venus is mostly that
contributed via geothermal forms of heat (not the LLPOF factor of
greenhouse warming) because, the planet Venus in either still within
it's relatively newish atmospheric building phase and/or recovering
from the trauma of arriving into our solar system as of a few thousand
years ago.

Venus is certainly much warmer than Earth but it most certainly is not
a "red hot planet" unless your sorry and intellectually snookered butt
is sitting on any number of geothermal S8 gas and/or lava vents, or
that you're swimming about within the subsequent hot lava and mud
flows. As usual our warm and fuzzy MI5/NSA~NASA plays with whatever's
left of your mind by way of their artificially coloring such images
and, by way of keeping those images at just a poor enough resolution so
that most of us village idiots can't actually tell for certain what
we're looking at.

The thick and highly reflective (75~85% albedo) layer of clouds are
actually of what's keeping Venus a bit cooler by way of reflecting the
vast bulk of solar thermal IR energy, meanwhile such thick clouds
remain transparent enough as to allow a sufficient amount of the
350~650 nm worth of spectrum to get through, and the dense atmosphere
below rather nicely conducts the surface heat away from that global
environment (it's called physics-101 of thermal dynamics) because, it's
been well proven and formally established by several independent teams
that a good deal more energy has been leaving Venus than contributed by
the sun. It's nighttime is not even totally dark to a sensitive
nocturnal eye that's situated within their extended season of a
somewhat cooler nighttime, although that's still humanly hot if you're
butt naked but, that's not necessarily insurmountably too hot when
there's loads of nifty mineral resources and unlimited local
green/renewable clean energy that's so easily available, and since it's
so nicely pressurised and so relatively bone dry offers another good
reason as to why it's actually not all that nasty (but I still wouldn't
advise going there in person unless invited).

Here's where humanity and myself could use your assistance;
It seems you have suggested some expertise in PhotoShop image
processing, and as such I could use your expertise and valuable
assistance since my version of such software and PC capability is
rather outdated. Would you mind doing a little processing on behalf of
just a small portion of an image that'll match with the small area of
Venus which I believe is worth a good look-see and better image
processing. If you could resample the small area rather than attempt to
photo process the entire image should allow your better software and
newer than my computer to generate an even better result in less time.

The original official Magellan image:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif

The area of most interest is of less than 10% of this very official
Magellan image, of a small mountainous and thus elevated area that's
situated roughly less than a third up from the bottom and just to the
right of center, although I'd advise that you should first study the
entire image as is, in order to get a grip upon what the 12 looks/pixel
and 8-bits worth of what this Magellan/SAR image has to offer. This
composite image was obtained at a 43=B0 perspective of radar
illuminating and thus viewing (nearly 3D like) upon the Venus surface,
whereas the 1:1 pixel resolution is quite large at 225 meters/pixel,
but don't let the scale of that resolution fool your brain until after
having a good look-see before focusing upon the relatively small
portion that I'd like your best effort at photo polishing to whatever
the best level that yourself and that of your latest PhotoShop applied
efforts can accomplish. Then we should share images and talk about the
specifics of what our God has allowed to coexist upon Venus.

Instead of processing upon the entire image, crop out this small area
and at first try resampling at 3X, meaning this would offer the cropped
image 9 times as many pixels to work with, then using the unsharp mask
along with a few other image filtering process and enhancements steps
should start to accomplish at least as good if not better results than
what I've managed.

Obviously you can multiply the original by a factor of 5X that'll
provide 25 times as many pixels, although much greater than 5X by way
of my best efforts hasn't significantly improved the end result. The
upper limits of what NIMA.MIL accomplishes is 10X, although don't
expect sharing of technology or any other support from that cesspool.

Such photo enhancements steps are somewhat of a learning curve or trial
and error, although you'll always have the original to go back to and
to start the process over as many times as need be. If you require a
bit more step by step instructions, that too I'll provide.

My honest interpretations of what's to be seen are not as likely to
match up entirely with your honest interpretations, and that's
perfectly acceptable. I'll certainly try to point out what's perfectly
natural as opposed to what's most likely of something artificial
(meaning via Venus locals and/or ET constructed), whereas between the
two of us we can better define upon what the raw and PhotoShop
processed image might suggest. Remember that it took myself hundreds of
hours to get myself to the results that seems to indicate as uncovering
a fairly substantial community, whereas the official opposition
(including our NIMA.MIL) has always had their better PhotoShop software
and supposedly the expertise to accomplish far better interpretations,
although exactly like the ongoing excluding of evidence related to Mars
is why such efforts upon Venus have been mostly that of continuing
evidence exclusions plus loads of the usual need-to-know of what's
nondisclosure/taboo and otherwise a great deal of topic/author stalking
and bashing from the very get-go. It's been MOS LLPOF from the
establishment that's about as anti-God as well as anti-ET as they can
possibly get. It's a wonder that so much anti-truth doesn't implode
upon itself to the point of causing another event horizon of their
intellectual black holes.
~

This is about a basic Township, Bridge & Tarmac upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
China/Russian LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
A few alternative topics from wizard Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Arnold wrote:
The star's young age of "only 500 million to a billion years" makes it
an unlikely source of space-faring aliens! You need a bit more time for
aliens to develop!

It depends, maybe those aliens didn't originate from there.

Traveling at 1% of the speed of the light you cover a light
year in a century. In a few thousand years you can make 30-40
light years, enough to get from one star to the other.

If the system is 500 million years old, there is ample opportunity
for the UFOs to get going even with very basic technology
(relatively speaking of course).

They could just have established a base over there.

Earth would be interesting to them due to the strong
and "unexplained" radio emission, a sure sign of a
primitive civilization. Besides, if we are starting to
figure out how many planets are there, they could have
figured out the solar system since a long time.

With a technology such as a slightly better New Generation
Scope that we will have in a few years, they could have
discovered the imbalance in the earth atmosphere since quite
a few million years. Another sure sign of life.

At 10.5 light years from us they are listening to the
"latest hits" radio emissions from the nineties, and
watching Bush father loose the elections.

A very big radio-telescope, at near absolute zero
pointed at the earth could listen to the individual
stations, and learn a lot about us without the effort
of coming here at all.

But maybe this is the reason why they do not come.

As TV shows go, they would surely have no interest in
such a stupid and violent race like us.

Funds for earth exploration would be scarce. At
most they would send a few robots if any...

In article ,
jacob navia wrote:

Earth would be interesting to them due to the strong
and "unexplained" radio emission, a sure sign of a

The radio leakage is very weak at interstellar distances.

A very big radio-telescope, at near absolute zero

Very big (probably continent or planet sized), yes, but
there is no benefit in being near absolute zero, because:

- receiver noises can be much lower than ambient even without
cryogenic cooling (e.g. the current SERENDIP/S@H receivers
have equivalent noise temperatures in the mid 20K range, but
are not cryogenically cooled - they are reportedly quieter
than the original cryogenically cooled ones);

- at the frequencies at which the broadcasts were made, galactic
synchrotron radiation means that the sky noise varies from comparable
to to many times earth ambient temperature (for radio, at around 100MHz,
it is certainly going to several times earth ambient).

pointed at the earth could listen to the individual
stations, and learn a lot about us without the effort
of coming here at all.

Joseph Lazio,
Still excluding upon the Sirius star system, not to mention Venus?
What exactly is your anti-ET problem?
What exactly are you so afraid of?

Why is it that your regular laws of physics seemingly fail to function
on behalf of our moon and/or for the likes of Venus?

What part of being so absolutely dumb and dumber and thus so easily
dumbfounded and snookered to boot remains so entirely over your head?

Is there any room still available within your intellectually bigoted
box, or is the lid to that infomercial over-stuffed box so tightly
fitted with industrial ductape that you can't even see the stars, much
less photo record the absolute vibrance of Venus nor that of the
near-blue Sirius from the unfiltered perspective of our moon?
~

This is about my basic Township, Bridge & Tarmac upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
China/Russian LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
A few alternative topics from wizard Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Brad Guth wrote:

Joseph Lazio,
Still excluding upon the Sirius star system, not to mention Venus?
What exactly is your anti-ET problem?
What exactly are you so afraid of?

Why is it that your regular laws of physics seemingly fail to function
on behalf of our moon and/or for the likes of Venus?

What part of being so absolutely dumb and dumber and thus so easily
dumbfounded and snookered to boot remains so entirely over your head?

Is there any room still available within your intellectually bigoted
box, or is the lid to that infomercial over-stuffed box so tightly
fitted with industrial ductape that you can't even see the stars, much
less photo record the absolute vibrance of Venus nor that of the
near-blue Sirius from the unfiltered perspective of our moon?
~

This is about my basic Township, Bridge & Tarmac upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
China/Russian LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
A few alternative topics from wizard Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm


Hi Guthball -- just to let you know, the ballot on which your election
as Kook of the Month is now in circulation. Good luck!

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler

"It's less a process of "convertion" it's about the reality of matter and
energy (all 8 [!] kinds of matter) ... and yes, that's how "they do it".
We {aliens} call it phase-tuning or simply phase-ing.
And no, you will have to find it out all by yourself. And yes, we
{aliens} will make sure your technical advancement will no longer be
faster than your spiritual one ... we'd rather let you perish on this
planet. That's a promise, you monkey-fu*kers.
HTH.
C."
-- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne's award-winning alien technology

"That's what you expect from people who think that the
cyberworld isn't "RL"."
-- Dr. David Tholen, Psychic Astrologer

And that's it?

Is that's the very best hard-science you've got to offer?

Is there something I've over/under looked that needs my attention?

Is there something about our moon that's actually as NASA/Apollo
stipulated?

Is Venus really all that insurmountably hot and nasty?

Is there actually enough usenet storage capacity for containing all of
your disinformation-R-us and topic/author stalking and bashing
crapolla?
~

This is about my basic Township, Bridge & Tarmac upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
China/Russian LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
A few alternative topics from wizard Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

David Woolley wrote:
In article ,
jacob navia wrote:


Earth would be interesting to them due to the strong
and "unexplained" radio emission, a sure sign of a


The radio leakage is very weak at interstellar distances.


Weak but measurable
That is all is needed.


A very big radio-telescope, at near absolute zero


Very big (probably continent or planet sized), yes, but
there is no benefit in being near absolute zero, because:

- receiver noises can be much lower than ambient even without
cryogenic cooling (e.g. the current SERENDIP/S@H receivers
have equivalent noise temperatures in the mid 20K range, but
are not cryogenically cooled - they are reportedly quieter
than the original cryogenically cooled ones);


I never mentioned cryogenic cooling. Just by floating around in
interstellar space, a receiver can lower its temperature to near
absolute zero. The only energy source is star light, and that
doesn't warm very much.

- at the frequencies at which the broadcasts were made, galactic
synchrotron radiation means that the sky noise varies from comparable
to to many times earth ambient temperature (for radio, at around 100MHz,
it is certainly going to several times earth ambient).


Focusing on earth can help distinguishing from background noise.
Besides, the distances (10 light years) are relatively small. Earth
follows a specific path in the sky, that can help distinguishing that
signal from the background noise.

The signals from the galactic noise are known, and for a civilization
with just several hundred years experience in observing from space it
would not be a big deal. Consider the progress we have done in a few
years space observing, and just think where we will be in a few
centuries. "They" could be there now.

In just a few years we have been able to go from zero to more than
hundred planets discovered using the star wobble effect. Other methods
like detecting earth passing in front of the sun are conceivable,
depending on the geometry of their point of view.

Once earth is discovered and its composition analyzed, the atmospheric
gas imbalance will be detected what implies something is breathing here.

Earth becomes "interesting". Centuries go by and they go on observing
(probably not themselves but by automatic software that systematically
explores all stars in a certain radius).

And suddenly earth changes, in a matter of less than a century. Radio
emissions appear, stronger and stronger

Interesting isn't it?

pointed at the earth could listen to the individual
stations, and learn a lot about us without the effort
of coming here at all.

Brad Guth wrote:

And that's it?

Is that's the very best hard-science you've got to offer?

Is there something I've over/under looked that needs my attention?

Yup. You could start by mastering high school math and physics.

On Friday 01 July 2005, Art Deco wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:

[piggybacking]

Brad Guth wrote:

This is about my basic Township, Bridge & Tarmac upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm

Anybody wondering why Guthball is on the KotM ballot might like to
consider the above.


PJR :-)
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