An old railway sleeper/tie found on Mars?

On Dec 8, 7:24 am, BradGuth wrote:
There’s an old railway sleeper found on Mars?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s..._frm/thread/fd...
On Dec 2, 3:21 am, Neil Gerace wrote:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...y/20040524a/si....

Opportunity / Sol 115, May 25, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_n115.html

The above image is what makes this nifty plank or dimensional board
of petrified Mars wood, as rather clearly depicted from a fairly old
archived image, seem kind of out of this world weird. Wonder why it
was intentionally withheld by JPL, and otherwise having been
intentionally excluded for so many years, as perhaps similar to the
weird indications of Mars having an underground access plate, hatch or
grave marker.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...5468289EFF65C3...

Apparently the faith-based rusemasters that are about to lose a few of
their public funded jobs w/benefits are starting to uncontrollably
sweat. Perhaps keeping our public media focus on a very passive/
insert Mars instead of any highly active Venus or even Selene is
clearly their priority number one.

All we need is a viable multi-tonne payload capable fly-by-rocket
lander with a robust return-home capability, a pair of robust nuclear
reactors, a few tonnes of other essentials, a 4 years supply of beer,
pizza and toilet paper to go along with the trillion plus cost of a
Mars expedition, and perhaps a decade from now we'd get there.

Too bad there's so little of any value on Mars that we here on Earth
could use, although that Mars plank of wood could bring 100+ millions
at auction.

That's certainly a perfectly good one for Mars, as though looking kind
of "old railway sleeper" artificial. (? apparently Mars once had
trees to make rail ties?)

Seems they ran directly over the top of it, so it's not such a large
rail sleeper/tie as you'd think. However, small Mars folks shouldn't
have needed much bigger than quarter-scale.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

What else is need-to-know about Mars, Selene and Venus?

~ BG

On Dec 15, 5:49 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 8, 7:24 am, BradGuth wrote:

There’s an old railway sleeper found on Mars?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s..._frm/thread/fd...
On Dec 2, 3:21 am, Neil Gerace wrote:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...y/20040524a/si....

Opportunity / Sol 115, May 25, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_n115.html

The above image is what makes this nifty plank or dimensional board
of petrified Mars wood, as rather clearly depicted from a fairly old
archived image, seem kind of out of this world weird. Wonder why it
was intentionally withheld by JPL, and otherwise having been
intentionally excluded for so many years, as perhaps similar to the
weird indications of Mars having an underground access plate, hatch or
grave marker.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...5468289EFF65C3...





Apparently the faith-based rusemasters that are about to lose a few of
their public funded jobs w/benefits are starting to uncontrollably
sweat. Perhaps keeping our public media focus on a very passive/
insert Mars instead of any highly active Venus or even Selene is
clearly their priority number one.

All we need is a viable multi-tonne payload capable fly-by-rocket
lander with a robust return-home capability, a pair of robust nuclear
reactors, a few tonnes of other essentials, a 4 years supply of beer,
pizza and toilet paper to go along with the trillion plus cost of a
Mars expedition, and perhaps a decade from now we'd get there.

Too bad there's so little of any value on Mars that we here on Earth
could use, although that Mars plank of wood could bring 100+ millions
at auction.

That's certainly a perfectly good one for Mars, as though looking kind
of "old railway sleeper" artificial. (? apparently Mars once had
trees to make rail ties?)

Seems they ran directly over the top of it, so it's not such a large
rail sleeper/tie as you'd think. However, small Mars folks shouldn't
have needed much bigger than quarter-scale.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

What else is need-to-know about Mars, Selene and Venus?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

Another good one for the old JPL gipper, with more of the same old
need-to-know crapolla, of NASA’s JPL policy of bit by bit feeding
their public indirectly so as to not be officially questioned by any
mainstream media that has been essentially snookered or otherwise
forced into accepting whatever our DARPA and NASA want to promote, or
rather more importantly do not want published until they see fit.

It seems Mars has a few nicely freeze-dried and fossilized items of
old wood, perhaps to go along with those solid CO2 frozen and
fossilized trees.

I see this as kind of JPL and NASA begging for mercy from the Obama
team that’s starting off way down in the hole, and not that I’m ever
the guy in favor of spending those hundreds of millions and in this
case billions extra of our hard earned public loot on Mars, yet here’s
a perfectly good enough reason for our way over spendy and recently
delayed MSL to proceed: Seems there’s an old railway sleeper found on
Mars, and at least so far it’s by all measure of observationology
representing a whole lot more interesting ET once upon a time life
worthy item than anything else discovered about Mars, that’s almost as
interesting as what I’ve interpreted about Venus.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...l_L-B118R1.jpg

Opportunity / Sol 115, May 25, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_n115.html
The above image is what makes this nifty board or dimensional plank
of petrified Mars wood, as rather clearly depicted from a fairly old
archived image, seem kind of out of this world and weird. Wonder why
this image was intentionally withheld by JPL, and otherwise having
been intentionally excluded for so many years, as perhaps similar to
the weird indications of Mars having an underground access plate,
hatch or grave marker.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2365L7M1.HTML

Apparently our faith-based rusemasters at JPL that are about to lose a
few of their public funded jobs w/benefits are starting to
uncontrollably sweat like stuck republican pigs. Perhaps keeping our
public media focus on a very passive/insert and thus faith-based kind
of failsafe eye-candy of Mars instead of a highly active Venus or even
Selene is clearly their priority number one. However, now it seems
they’ve pulled yet another wild card from up their sleeve, as hoping
to get noticed and subsequently rewarded.

Perhaps all we need is a viable multi-tonne payload capable fly-by-
rocket lander with a robust return-home capability, a pair of those
portable nuclear reactors, a few tonnes of other essentials, including
a 4 year supply of beer, pizza and toilet paper to go along with the
trillion plus public cost of a Mars expedition, and perhaps within a
mere decade from now we'd get there.

Too bad there's so little mineral substance of any exotic or unusual
value on Mars that we here on Earth could use, although that Mars
plank of wood should bring at least 100+ millions at auction. That's
certainly a perfectly good enough reason for exploring Mars, as though
looking kind of "old railway sleeper" artificial. (? apparently once
upon a time Mars had trees to make rail ties ?)

Seems they ran directly over the top of it, so it's not such a large
rail sleeper/tie or common plank as you'd think. However, small Mars
folks shouldn't have needed much bigger than quarter-scale. The real
question is, why all the delay, and absolutely no mainstream media
coverage whatsoever.

Here’s their idea of media damage control, of purely subjectively
suggesting it’s exactly like all the other wooden plank looking rocks
on Mars. Why don’t you take a look, and see if there’s anything else
remotely similar, assure as hell I can’t pull that kind of
interpretation from the best of those other images, and not that
fossilized wood shouldn’t have become hard as a rock.
http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12...found-on-mars/

Apparently we’re supposed accept that it’s merely a common “piece of
flat, platy, layered sulfur-rich outcrop rock” that just so happens to
be thus far one of a kind. Were there ever any close up views? Was
it salty? Were there any signs of microbes remains within those
petrified wood looking pores?

Here’s a couple of other reviews worth considering, though also worthy
of such missions being terminated by BHO because no matters what gets
discovered we’re pretty much out of spare public loot, as whatever
talent and technological expertise is rather badly needed to explore
and resolve issues right here on Earth, unless GMC and Chrysler being
owned by Tata Motors (TTM) of India or otherwise China owning most of
everything else isn’t of any concern.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...lank-Mars.html

Mars trees, or Mars sulfur gas patterns in lakes of solid CO2?
http://thecrit.com/2008/08/05/nasa-m...found-on-mars/
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-trees.html

This kind of makes us wonder what else there is about our Selene/moon
and of Venus that we’re not being informed of.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

Another good one for the old JPL gipper, with more of the same old
need-to-know crapolla, of NASA’s JPL policy of bit by bit feeding
their public indirectly so as to not be officially questioned by any
mainstream media that has been essentially snookered or otherwise
forced into accepting whatever our DARPA and NASA want to promote, or
rather more importantly do not want published until they see fit.

It seems Mars has a few nicely freeze-dried and fossilized items of
old wood, perhaps to go along with those solid CO2 frozen and
fossilized trees.

I see this as kind of JPL and NASA begging for mercy from the Obama
team that’s starting off way down in the hole if federal debt and
corruption, and not that I’m ever the guy in favor of spending those
hundreds of millions and in this case billions extra of our hard
earned public loot on Mars, yet here’s a perfectly good enough reason
for our way over spendy and recently delayed MSL to proceed: Seems
there’s an old railway sleeper found on Mars, and at least so far it’s
by all measure of observationology representing a whole lot more
interesting ET once upon a time life worthy item than anything else
discovered about Mars, that’s almost as interesting as what I’ve
interpreted about Venus.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...l_L-B118R1.jpg

Opportunity / Sol 115, May 25, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_n115.html
The above image is what makes this nifty board or dimensional plank
of petrified Mars wood, as rather clearly depicted from a fairly old
archived image, seem kind of out of this world and weird. Wonder why
this image was intentionally withheld by JPL, and otherwise having
been intentionally excluded for so many years, as perhaps similar to
the weird indications of Mars having an underground access plate,
hatch or grave marker.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2365L7M1.HTML

Apparently our faith-based rusemasters at JPL that are about to lose a
few of their public funded jobs w/benefits are starting to
uncontrollably sweat like stuck republican pigs. Perhaps keeping our
public media focus on a very passive/insert and thus faith-based kind
of failsafe eye-candy of Mars instead of a highly active Venus or even
Selene is clearly their priority number one. However, now it seems
they’ve pulled yet another wild card from up their sleeve, as hoping
to get noticed and subsequently rewarded.

Perhaps all we need is a viable multi-tonne payload capable fly-by-
rocket lander with a robust return-home capability, a pair of those
portable nuclear reactors, a few tonnes of other essentials, including
a 4 year supply of beer, pizza and toilet paper to go along with the
trillion plus public cost of a Mars expedition, and perhaps within a
mere decade from now we'd get there.

Too bad there's so little mineral substance of any exotic or unusual
value on Mars that we here on Earth could use, although that Mars
plank of wood should bring at least 100+ millions at auction. That's
certainly a perfectly good enough reason for exploring Mars, as though
looking kind of "old railway sleeper" artificial. (? apparently once
upon a time Mars had trees to make rail ties ?)

Seems they ran directly over the top of it, so it's not such a large
rail sleeper/tie or common plank as you'd think. However, small Mars
folks shouldn't have needed much bigger than quarter-scale. The real
question is, why all the delay, and absolutely no mainstream media
coverage whatsoever.

Here’s their idea of media damage control, of purely subjectively
suggesting it’s exactly like all the other wooden plank looking rocks
on Mars. Why don’t you take a look, and see if there’s anything else
remotely similar, assure as hell I can’t pull that kind of
interpretation from the best of those other images, and not that
fossilized wood shouldn’t have become hard as a rock.
http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12...found-on-mars/

Apparently we’re supposed accept that it’s merely a common “piece of
flat, platy, layered sulfur-rich outcrop rock” that just so happens to
be thus far one of a kind. Were there ever any close up views? Was
it salty? Were there any signs of microbes remains within those
petrified wood looking pores?

Here’s a couple of other reviews worth considering, though also worthy
of such missions being terminated by BHO because no matters what gets
discovered we’re pretty much out of spare public loot, as whatever
talent and technological expertise is rather badly needed to explore
and resolve issues right here on Earth, unless GMC and Chrysler being
owned by Tata Motors (TTM) of India or otherwise China owning most of
everything else isn’t of any concern.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...lank-Mars.html

Mars trees, or Mars sulfur gas patterns in lakes of solid CO2?
http://thecrit.com/2008/08/05/nasa-m...found-on-mars/
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-trees.html

This kind of makes us wonder what else there is to know about our
Selene/moon and of Venus that we’re not being informed of.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Dec 18, 7:31*am, BradGuth wrote:
Another good one for the old JPL gipper, with more of the same old
need-to-know crapolla, of NASA’s JPL policy of bit by bit feeding
their public indirectly so as to not be officially questioned by any
mainstream media that has been essentially snookered or otherwise
forced into accepting whatever our DARPA and NASA want to promote, or
rather more importantly do not want published until they see fit.

It seems Mars has a few nicely freeze-dried and fossilized items of
old wood, perhaps to go along with those solid CO2 frozen and
fossilized trees.

I see this as kind of JPL and NASA begging for mercy from the Obama
team that’s starting off way down in the hole if federal debt and
corruption, and not that I’m ever the guy in favor of spending those
hundreds of millions and in this case billions extra of our hard
earned public loot on Mars, yet here’s a perfectly good enough reason
for our way over spendy and recently delayed MSL to proceed: *Seems
there’s an old railway sleeper found on Mars, and at least so far it’s
by all measure of observationology representing a whole lot more
interesting ET once upon a time life worthy item than anything else
discovered about Mars, that’s almost as interesting as what I’ve
interpreted about Venus.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...y/20040524a/si...

Opportunity / Sol 115, May 25, 2004
*http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_n115.html
*The above image is what makes this nifty board or dimensional plank
of petrified Mars wood, as rather clearly depicted from a fairly old
archived image, seem kind of out of this world and weird. *Wonder why
this image was intentionally withheld by JPL, and otherwise having
been intentionally excluded for so many years, as perhaps similar to
the weird indications of Mars having an underground access plate,
hatch or grave marker.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...5468289EFF65C3...

Apparently our faith-based rusemasters at JPL that are about to lose a
few of their public funded jobs w/benefits are starting to
uncontrollably sweat like stuck republican pigs. *Perhaps keeping our
public media focus on a very passive/insert and thus faith-based kind
of failsafe eye-candy of Mars instead of a highly active Venus or even
Selene is clearly their priority number one. *However, now it seems
they’ve pulled yet another wild card from up their sleeve, as hoping
to get noticed and subsequently rewarded.

Perhaps all we need is a viable multi-tonne payload capable fly-by-
rocket lander with a robust return-home capability, a pair of those
portable nuclear reactors, a few tonnes of other essentials, including
a 4 year supply of beer, pizza and toilet paper to go along with the
trillion plus public cost of a Mars expedition, and perhaps within a
mere decade from now we'd get there.

Too bad there's so little mineral substance of any exotic or unusual
value on Mars that we here on Earth could use, although that Mars
plank of wood should bring at least 100+ millions at auction. That's
certainly a perfectly good enough reason for exploring Mars, as though
looking kind of "old railway sleeper" artificial. *(? apparently once
upon a time Mars had trees to make rail ties ?)

Seems they ran directly over the top of it, so it's not such a large
rail sleeper/tie or common plank as you'd think. *However, small Mars
folks shouldn't have needed much bigger than quarter-scale. *The real
question is, why all the delay, and absolutely no mainstream media
coverage whatsoever.

Here’s their idea of media damage control, of purely subjectively
suggesting it’s exactly like all the other wooden plank looking rocks
on Mars. *Why don’t you take a look, and see if there’s anything else
remotely similar, assure as hell I can’t pull that kind of
interpretation from the best of those other images, and not that
fossilized wood shouldn’t have become hard as a rock.
*http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12...found-on-mars/

Apparently we’re supposed accept that it’s merely a common “piece of
flat, platy, layered sulfur-rich outcrop rock” that just so happens to
be thus far one of a kind. *Were there ever any close up views? *Was
it salty? *Were there any signs of microbes remains within those
petrified wood looking pores?

Here’s a couple of other reviews worth considering, though also worthy
of such missions being terminated by BHO because no matters what gets
discovered we’re pretty much out of spare public loot, as whatever
talent and technological expertise is rather badly needed to explore
and resolve issues right here on Earth, unless GMC and Chrysler being
owned by Tata Motors (TTM) of India or otherwise China owning most of
everything else isn’t of any concern.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Conspiracy-the...

Mars trees, or Mars sulfur gas patterns in lakes of solid CO2?
*http://thecrit.com/2008/08/05/nasa-m...found-on-mars/
*http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-trees.html

This kind of makes us wonder what else there is to know about our
Selene/moon and of Venus that we’re not being informed of.

* ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

Perhaps that fossilized wood of Mars is hundreds of million if not a
billion plus years old, as in way back when Mars was an icy little
planetoid with a protective magnetosphere and substantial moon of its
own.

Of course a much closer look-see at such an unusual (thus far one of a
kind) item would have been as close to objective science as anything.
However, just like those NASA/Apollo derived tidbits of science about
our moon, it seems subjective science is as good as it gets, as for
anything potentially objective has either been taboo/nondisclosure
rated or having been entirely lost along the way (another generation
and there may not even be a living Apollo astronaut).

Government lies upon lies are what usually takes 50+ years to be
uncovered (many as having taken more than 100 years), and most of
everything that's questionable as having not been objective enough
about our NASA/Apollo fiasco, is thus far holding its own.

Too bad that BHO has to start off within such a cesspool and pathetic
gauntlet of lies upon lies, along with the subsequent compounded debt
that will only take at least another decade to pay off, though based
upon 10% annual budget reductions and absolutely nothing whatsoever
going wrong from now on.

Way to go, republican Mafia, screwing everything that God and your own
nation supposedly stands for at the same time.

~ BG