Best shuttle pilot?

Alan Erskine wrote:
John Young for my money; he flew Gemini, Apollo and STS. Crippen second; he
only flew STS a couple of times.

Crippen flew four shuttle flights.

Jorge R. Frank drukte met precisie uit :
Alan Erskine wrote:
John Young for my money; he flew Gemini, Apollo and STS. Crippen second;
he
only flew STS a couple of times.

Crippen flew four shuttle flights.

Crippen flew it first from orbit to landing. However, I do not know if
he was helped by computers or not...

André; "PE1PQX" wrote in message
...
Crippen flew it first from orbit to landing. However, I do not know if
he was helped by computers or not...

From Gemini onwards, they were all helped by computers.

On Mar 5, 11:32 am, "Alan Erskine" wrote:
John Young for my money; he flew Gemini, Apollo and STS. Crippen second; he
only flew STS a couple of times.

So what. # of flights means better pilot? Then Jake Garn would have
them all beat as a regular pilot since he had more hours in more
different aircraft.

Young just had the benefit of being born early. Who says a shuttle
only era pilot isn't better? Hoot Gibson, Charley Precourt, Jim
Wetherbee,

What are you using to measure their skills against.

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:40:53 +0100, "Cj" wrote:

Who is/has been the best shuttle pilot / commander?

Joe Engle, who made the only fully manual entry and landing in the
program (STS-2)?

Brian

"Cj" wrote in message ...
Who is/has been the best shuttle pilot / commander?

This thread is silly. There have been so few shuttle flights, it's hard to
compare one pilot to another when each has flown the shuttle only a handful
of times.

Jeff
--
A clever person solves a problem.
A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein

"Cj" wrote in message ...
Who is/has been the best shuttle pilot / commander?

Steve Nagel for flying skills and Charlie Bolden for command/leadership
skills.

Danny Deger

"Danny Deger" wrote:

"Cj" wrote in message ...
Who is/has been the best shuttle pilot / commander?

Steve Nagel for flying skills and Charlie Bolden for command/leadership
skills.

Supporting info?

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On Mar 6, 11:55*am, (Derek Lyons) wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote:

"Cj" wrote in ...
Who is/has been the best shuttle pilot / commander?

Steve Nagel for flying skills and Charlie Bolden for command/leadership
skills.

Supporting info?

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Danny used to work for the sim folks who observed crew performance
throughout training. My impression, especially when it comes command
presence/leadership, is that it is a matter of "you'll know it when
you see it". You can't really quantify or establish metrics (at least
I haven't seen anyone succeed) for it. So it might be difficult of
someone to list a set of persuasive arguement. But . . . any
anecdotes that could be offered would be fun to read.

Take care . . .

John

John wrote:

On Mar 6, 11:55*am, (Derek Lyons) wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote:

"Cj" wrote in ...
Who is/has been the best shuttle pilot / commander?

Steve Nagel for flying skills and Charlie Bolden for command/leadership
skills.

Supporting info?

Danny used to work for the sim folks who observed crew performance
throughout training.

I know that.

My impression, especially when it comes command
presence/leadership, is that it is a matter of "you'll know it when
you see it". You can't really quantify or establish metrics (at least
I haven't seen anyone succeed) for it. So it might be difficult of
someone to list a set of persuasive arguement. But . . . any
anecdotes that could be offered would be fun to read.

Precisely.

Command qualities are an interesting topic. Back in the Navy we used
to debate endlessly the finer points of differentiating between
skippers you'd want to go to sea with, and skippers you'd want to go
to war with. The two sets were (surprisingly to many lubbers) not
congruent.

D.
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