Is God ****ed, or what?

On Mar 3, 2:10 pm, wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in ...
Is the 2029 NEO encounter of #99942/Apophis of 100,000+ tonnes passing
at 35,406 km (less than a tenth the distance to our moon) close
enough?

How about surviving a lithobraking encounter (most likely involving
ocean vaporizing displacements) of 40+ km/s?

Is there such a thing as RRGI(Road Rage God Insurance)?
. - Brad Guth

News flash, Brad: sooner or later it's going to happen. Just mother
nature doing its thing. Call it nature's reset button.

By the time it does happen, Earth will be such a cesspool of
pollution, overpopulation and evil it'll be considered by most to be
a blessing of theistic proportion. Well, at least Danny Min will
think so.

At least all of our doom and gloom sayers will finely be able to say
"I told you so".

I kind of like the notion of a God like reset button getting pushed,
although I'd rather it be from the 2nd encounter as of another 7 years
later, whereas by then I could be nearly if not dead already.
..- Brad Guth

wrote:
at least Danny Min will
think so.


Which reminds me...is Uranus still in the dragon's head? ;-)

Pat

Is the 2029 NEO encounter of #99942/Apophis of at least 100,000+
tonnes passing at 35,406 km (less than a tenth the distance to our
moon) close enough?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
size: 270 x 415 meters
mass: 26 ~ 46 million tonnes

SCENARIOS FOR DEALING WITH APOPHIS
http://www.aero.org/conferences/plan...nery-Brief.pdf

How about pondering our surviving a lithobraking encounter (most
likely involving ocean vaporizing displacements) of 40+ km/s? (our
NASA has it as of 2036 at merely 12.6 km/s and 21e6 tonnes)

Is there such a thing as RRGI(Road Rage God Insurance)?

David A. Smith: Yes, it is called a "viable, funded, space program".

If I were the least bit in charge, that alternative of insuring a
"viable, funded, space program" would sound perfectly good to me,
especially considering the Godly potential of collateral damage and
carnage of the mostly innocent, as delivered by such a whopping sucker-
punch, and only made worse yet if we did nothing much to save
ourselves.
21 years simply isn't long enough for getting hardly 10% of humanity
safely relocated to higher ground, much less accommodated as deep
enough within Earth. For most of humanity, a direct ocean hit of
that magnitude isn't exactly going to be all that survivable, even if
you're situated on the opposite side. The antipodes and super-mega
waves of hot ocean haven't been estimated, perhaps because it's all
too doom and gloom or dark and scary.
.. - Brad Guth

"BradGuth" wrote in message
...
Is the 2029 NEO encounter of #99942/Apophis of 100,000+ tonnes passing
at 35,406 km (less than a tenth the distance to our moon) close
enough?

How about surviving a lithobraking encounter (most likely involving
ocean vaporizing displacements) of 40+ km/s?

Is there such a thing as RRGI(Road Rage God Insurance)?


God plays dice with the universe ya know.

And when enough randomness occurs ala the Second Law, spontaneous
order emerges ala the Fourth Law of Thermodynamics. Better known
today as laws of self organization.
http://www.annalsnyas.org/cgi/conten...tion/879/1/320
http://www.calresco.org/sos/sosfaq.htm

Which means, of course, the dice....are loaded... in favor of creation.

Toss 'em enough, and up comes life. Science and religion aren't as
far apart as everyone seems to think.






. - Brad Guth

On Mar 3, 7:34 pm, "jonathan" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...

Is the 2029 NEO encounter of #99942/Apophisof 100,000+ tonnes passing
at 35,406 km (less than a tenth the distance to our moon) close
enough?

How about surviving a lithobraking encounter (most likely involving
ocean vaporizing displacements) of 40+km/s?

Is there such a thing as RRGI(Road Rage God Insurance)?

God plays dice with the universe ya know.

And when enough randomness occurs ala the Second Law, spontaneous
order emerges ala the Fourth Law of Thermodynamics. Better known
today as laws of self organization.http://www.annalsnyas.org/cgi/conten...sos/sosfaq.htm

Which means, of course, the dice....are loaded... in favor of creation.

Toss 'em enough, and up comes life. Science and religion aren't as
far apart as everyone seems to think.

I tend to agree with that analogy, though perhaps at most a 10% kill-
off that'll of course exclude most all of the rich and powerful.

BTW, my initial 40 km/s notion isn't likely unless we're talking of a
head-on encounter, however the mass of 21e6 tonnes or greater (up to
46e6 tonnes) is rather impressive, even if only arriving at 12.6 km/
s.
.. - Brad Guth

jonathan wrote:
And when enough randomness occurs ala the Second Law, spontaneous
order emerges ala the Fourth Law of Thermodynamics.



"Y'know, Nietzsche says: 'Out of chaos _comes_ order'. "**
"Oh, blow it out your ass, Howard." :-D

Pat

On Mar 4, 7:57*am, Pat Flannery wrote:

"Y'know, Nietzsche says: 'Out of chaos _comes_ order'. "**
"Oh, blow it out your ass, Howard." :-D

Pat

"Even as we speak, Louis Pasteur has developed a cure for anthrax..."

"Never mind that ****, here comes 99942 Apophis!"

On Mar 4, 2:32 pm, Damien Valentine wrote:
On Mar 4, 7:57 am, Pat Flannery wrote:

"Y'know, Nietzsche says: 'Out of chaos _comes_ order'. "**
"Oh, blow it out your ass, Howard." :-D

Pat

"Even as we speak, Louis Pasteur has developed a cure for anthrax..."

"Never mind that ****, here comes 99942 Apophis!"

That's true, but there's sufficient time to fine-tune that trajectory
and to come up with a good dozen viable methods of saving our butts.

Too bad we can't effectively modify its orbital trajectory in order to
fully terminate Apophis, by way of having it impact our moon. At
least that win-win option would likely save Earth as well as cover up
any signs of our supposed Apollo mission, as buried under meters of
that dark coal like moon dust.

Once impacted into our naked moon and that dust settles down, we could
send our boys with all that "right stuff" and their undocumented R&D
of fly-by-rocket landers back to their passive moon that used to look
exactly like a xenon lamp spectrum illuminated guano island, in order
to harvest those raw elements of Apophis, as well as to see whatever
else that new hole into our moon as to offer.
.. - Brad Guth

Is the 2029 NEO encounter of #99942/Apophis and of Earth taking a hit
of at least 12e6 tonnes, unless safely passing us at 35,406 km (that
being less than a tenth the distance to our moon) close enough?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
size: 270 x 415 meters
mass: 26 ~ 46 million tonnes

SCENARIOS FOR DEALING WITH APOPHIS
http://www.aero.org/conferences/plan...nery-Brief.pdf

How about pondering our surviving a lithobraking encounter (most
likely involving ocean vaporizing displacements) of 20+ km/s? (our
NASA has Apophis encountering Earth as of 2036 at merely 12.6 km/s and
of only 21e6 tonnes)

Is there such a thing as RRGI(Road Rage God Insurance)?

David A. Smith: Yes, it is called a "viable, funded, space program".

If I were the least bit in charge, that alternative of insuring a
"viable, funded, space program" would sound perfectly good to me,
especially considering the Godly potential of collateral damage and
carnage of the mostly innocent, as delivered by such a whopping sucker-
punch, and only made worse yet if we did nothing much to save
ourselves.
21 years simply isn't long enough for getting hardly 10% of humanity
safely relocated to higher ground, much less accommodated as deep
enough within Earth. For most of humanity, a direct ocean hit of
that magnitude isn't exactly going to be all that survivable, even if
you're situated on the opposite side. The antipodes and super-mega
waves of hot ocean tsunamis haven't been estimated, perhaps because
it's all too doom and gloom or dark and scary.

Too bad we can't effectively modify its orbital trajectory in order to
terminate Apophis, by way of having it impact our moon. At least that
option would likely save Earth as well as cover up any signs of our
supposed Apollo mission, as buried under meters of that dark moon
dust.
.. - Brad Guth

On Mar 3, 4:45*pm, BradGuth wrote:
Is the 2029 NEO encounter of #99942/Apophis of 100,000+ tonnes passing
at 35,406 km (less than a tenth the distance to our moon) close
enough?

How about surviving a lithobraking encounter (most likely involving
ocean vaporizing displacements) of 40+ km/s?

Is there such a thing as RRGI(Road Rage God Insurance)?
. - Brad Guth