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On Jun 11, 10:10 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
[snip crap] Your views of relativity are no more valid than your views on thermodynamics. http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm |
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![]() Eric Gisse wrote: On Jun 11, 10:10 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote: [snip crap] Your views of relativity are no more valid than your views on thermodynamics. http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm Of course. But in this particular case we discuss Einstein's, not my, strong desire to replace continuum with discontinuum, that is, the field model with the particle model: http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf Einstein: "The problem seems to me [to be] how one can formulate statements about a discontinuum without calling upon a continuum (space-time) as an aid; the latter should be banned from the theory as a supplementary construction not justified by the essence of the problem, which corresponds to nothing "real"." Pentcho Valev |
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
oups.com... Jeckyl wrote: "Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ups.com... Jeckyl wrote: "Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ups.com... Jeckyl wrote: "Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ps.com... http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/aug252003/518.pdf "In the second essay in this part entitled 'The other Einstein: Einstein contra field theory', Stachel portrays Einstein, the author of the space-time continuum field theory, as one who questions the fundamental significance of space-time continuum itself. Stachel ends this section with the last published words of Einstein, 'one can give good reasons why reality cannot at all be represented by a continuous field. From the quantum phenomena it appears to follow with certainty that a finite system of finite energy can be completely described by a finite set of numbers (quantum numbers). This does not seem to be in accordance with a continuum theory, and must lead to an attempt to find a purely algebraic theory for the description of reality. But nobody knows how to obtain the basis of such a theory'. Did this other Einstein have the last word?" The other Einstein knew that the speed of discontinuous particles of light, photons, varied with the gravitational potential (see Chapter 22 in his "Relativity"). He had certainly applied the equivalence principle and obtained that, since the speed of light varies with the gravitational potential, it also varies with the relative speed of the light source and the observer. And the other Einstein knew what that meant: Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity is false." Einstein again: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." Pentcho Valev More crap from self-obsessed leakage from the **** valve No the renunciation of the space-time continuum comes from Einstein himself, and your masters regard it as a salvation: More crap from self-obsessed leakage from the **** valve You don't believe me. I am so sorry. Yes your masters do see the renunciation of the space-time continuum as a salvation: More crap from self-obsessed leakage from the **** valve Amazing. But see how Master John Stachel presents an aspect of the continuum-discontinuum dilemma: More crap from self-obsessed leakage from Pentcho's **** valve |
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
ups.com... Eric Gisse wrote: On Jun 11, 10:10 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote: [snip crap] Your views of relativity are no more valid than your views on thermodynamics. http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm Of course. Best thing you've ever said |
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