NOVA's "Magnetic Storm" and CellWell1 & CellWell2

Fractal distributions would be easy to predict recurrence from. My
guess is that the distribution is not fractal but is the "heavy-tailed"
equivalent to a Gaussian distribution. If so, that is bad news in that
heavy tailed distributions have an infinite variance and are the subject
of intense research because many natural phenomena appear to be
heavy-tailed. My hunch is that a lot of geological phenomena are
heavy-tailed. "Heavy tails" means that the tails of such distributions
do not asymptotically approach zero--that there is infinite area under
the curve. With small numbers of observations heavy-tailed
distributions will pass all tests for normality.

rick++ wrote:

A number of geophysicists believe magnetic reversal statistics are "fractal
stochastic", that generally random, but clumpy. Earthquake occurances have
these statistics. For example the mean recurrence rate of M7+ quakes on
the southern San Andreas is about 250 years, with quakes spacing as close a 50
years and far apart as 500 years.

Plus there is the issue of data resolution. There are mini-reversals just a
few ten thousand years long seen in the past few million years. However,
due to the sparser rocker record further back in time its harder to detect
min-reversals. When mini-reversals are filtered out, the reversal rate
is mor eon the or of a million years.

Still, data resolution does not explain the absence of reversals for 30-some
million years in the late Mesozoic. Something more fundamentally different
in interior earth processes may have been happening then.

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answers as to why a 780,000 year when the average is
200,000 year cycle for reversepolarity
NOVA's "Magnetic Storm"
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rick++ wrote:

A number of geophysicists believe magnetic reversal statistics are "fractal
stochastic", that generally random, but clumpy. Earthquake occurances have
these statistics. For example the mean recurrence rate of M7+ quakes on
the southern San Andreas is about 250 years, with quakes spacing as close a 50
years and far apart as 500 years.

Plus there is the issue of data resolution. There are mini-reversals just a
few ten thousand years long seen in the past few million years. However,
due to the sparser rocker record further back in time its harder to detect
min-reversals. When mini-reversals are filtered out, the reversal rate
is mor eon the or of a million years.

Still, data resolution does not explain the absence of reversals for 30-some
million years in the late Mesozoic. Something more fundamentally different
in interior earth processes may have been happening then.

Yes, I think that TV program was slanted and biased in the direction
of fractal
and chaos.

I have a strong bias against fractal and chaos theory in that it is
more of an
"excuse and a philosophy" rather than an explanation or science.
Science is
pattern and more important "explanation". To say something has fractal
geometry
is not explanation. It is akin to saying that it is difficult science.
So it is
philosophy and not science.

Convection currents are science but very difficult. It is made very
much more
complex due to the fact that the core is a huge mix of compounds and
elements and
it is this mixture that has not really been adequately given a
scientific
analysis. I think it is the mixture in the core that is the primary
cause of the
periodicity of reversals. For example, in a modelling where you have
say 75% of
the core as molten iron and 25% molten lead then the period of
flipping should be
somewhat "regular". Much like the regularity of the 200,000 year flip
that the
core actually does experience. Suggesting that the 200,000 year flip
relates to
some specific metal mix of the core that is the cause of the
regularity.

Question to physics: Should the Earth core become more homogenous in
its mix over
time or should it become less? I think the answer is that as energy is
increased
into the core that the mix should become more homogenous in that if we
stir a
soup it becomes more homogenous.

I think modelling is our best means of explanation since we will not
see or
directly sample the Earth's core. But we may develop some future tools
to help.

I would say the Mesozoic data resolution is so fuzzy that it is
pointless to
discuss it. I would say use only the data that is somewhat clear which
is the
last
10 million years.

I was able to find a website showing the interior of Europa and it has
no metal
core. I was wondering if anyone knows of a website that shows most
every planet
and its moon of a cross section slice all the way through its core.
The science
of astronomy and geology should have an official website that shows
the latest
knowledge as to a cross section slice into the entire planet showing
its core.

And another website should have the official latest information as to
the
rotation of axis of all the planets and their moons with respect to
the plane of
revolution of our solarsystem.

I will try to re-find that Europa picture website. What I am
interested in is
comparing the cores of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars to that of Europa
and all the
other moons of the gasgiants along with the gasgiants because in the
CellWell
theory the cores of Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars should stand apart
from the
cores of the gasgiants and their moons. Even the cores of the moons of
the
gasgiants should stand apart from the cores of the gasgiants. So if
anyone has
one website that shows pictures of all the cores of astro bodies in
our
SolarSystem is doing the world of science a huge favor. Likewise, one
website
showing us all the axis of rotation to plane of revolution for all of
the Solar
System.

Archimedes Plutonium,
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Subject:
answers as to why a 780,000 year when the average is
200,000year cycle for reversepolarity
NOVA's "Magnetic Storm"
Date:
Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:10:15 -0600
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Robert Ehrlich wrote:

Fractal distributions would be easy to predict recurrence from. My
guess is that the distribution is not fractal but is the "heavy-tailed"
equivalent to a Gaussian distribution. If so, that is bad news in that
heavy tailed distributions have an infinite variance and are the subject
of intense research because many natural phenomena appear to be
heavy-tailed. My hunch is that a lot of geological phenomena are
heavy-tailed. "Heavy tails" means that the tails of such distributions
do not asymptotically approach zero--that there is infinite area under
the curve. With small numbers of observations heavy-tailed
distributions will pass all tests for normality.


I am not sure I know what "heavy-tails" are geometrically speaking. I
have a good
idea of fractal distribution as to some geometry. Unless a
distribution can be
given a geometry, it is of little value or no value.

As Rick mentioned "clumpiness" which directly relates to the actual
chemical
mixture of the core. For it is all going to have to refer to the
chemical mixture
of the core as to what happens in the core. In the end it is all going
to have to
be about the metal mix of the core and not about what fanciful
mathematics
catches some eyes.

Archimedes Plutonium,
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies