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It is safe to say "Where there is a graviton there is also gravity." I
like the paper(posted it many times) that Scherk,and Schwartz came up with.in 1972 That in quantum gravity the aggravation is massless and has spin 2 That is by the way twice as fast as photon's spin. My spin is in theory tells that spin 2 makes the graviton very heavy(high inertia),and that can explain a lot of the mysteries of the graviton Bert |
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![]() G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote: It is safe to say "Where there is a graviton there is also gravity." I like the paper(posted it many times) that Scherk,and Schwartz came up with.in 1972 That in quantum gravity the aggravation is massless and has spin 2 That is by the way twice as fast as photon's spin. My spin is in theory tells that spin 2 makes the graviton very heavy(high inertia),and that can explain a lot of the mysteries of the graviton Bert Graviton spin = 2x'c' = 4 times as much energy as a photon. What's a typical graviton population per m3? (say between Earth and our moon) .. - Brad Guth |
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Brad Best to stay with that the graviton has "twice" the spin rate as
the photon. 2 is twice as much as 1 go figure Bert |
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On Mar 30, 2:30 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Brad Best to stay with that the graviton has "twice" the spin rate as the photon. 2 is twice as much as 1 go figure Bert Then by all means, 2c it is (600,000 km/s = graviton rate of spin) Graviton Energy or GE=M2C2 BTW, you didn't bother to offer your best SWAG as to the given population of gravitons/m3, say as found within the Earth-moon L1 = Xe xxx number of those pesky gravitons/m3. There's roughly 2e20 N worth of mutual gravity/tidal force of those pesky Newtons to cope with, so are we talking of 2e120 gravitons/m3/sec, or what? In other friendly words of my somewhat dyslexic encrypted wisdom, how many of those quantum string like gravitons/m3/Newton force of 102 grams/sec of mutual attraction are we talking about? (I'll assume it's a whole lot more than a count of one) .. - Brad Guth |
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Brad I think it is safe to say there is a graviton at the exact center
of every particle.(Planck mass) I could go further staying with Feynman and Wheeler,that the graviton has to exist in the infinite energy of the universe,and that includes the intrinsic energy of space. These thoughts I have had since 1946 when I wrote G=EMC^2 on a brown paper bag while riding the Boston's EL(electric train) Bert |
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On Mar 31, 4:54 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Brad I think it is safe to say there is a graviton at the exact center of every particle.(Planck mass) I could go further staying with Feynman and Wheeler,that the graviton has to exist in the infinite energy of the universe,and that includes the intrinsic energy of space. These thoughts I have had since 1946 when I wrote G=EMC^2 on a brown paper bag while riding the Boston's EL(electric train) Bert How many atoms is the tally of what Earth and our moon represent? That still doesn't directly tell us how many interactive gravitons/m3 coexist at any one second between Earth and our moon. It has got to be a very large number. If there is but one attached graviton per atom seems highly unlikely, since the affects of the gravity imposed by a given atom are detected from every possible angle of a given sphere surrounding that atom. Are we perhaps talking of 1e100 gravitons/atom? .. - Brad Guth |
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On Mar 29, 5:42 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
It is safe to say "Where there is agravitonthere is also gravity." I like the paper(posted it many times) that Scherk,and Schwartz came up with.in 1972 That in quantum gravity the aggravation is massless and has spin 2 That is by the way twice as fast as photon's spin. My spin is in theory tells that spin 2 makes thegravitonvery heavy(high inertia),and that can explain a lot of the mysteries of thegraviton Bert Then by all means, 2c it is (600,000 km/s = graviton rate of spin) ? Graviton Energy or GE=M2C2 ? BTW, you haven't bothered to offer your best swag to the given population of gravitons/m3, say as found within the Earth-moon L1 = Xe??? number of those pesky gravitons/m3. There's roughly 2e20 N worth of mutual gravity/tidal force of those Newtons to cope with, so are we talking of 2e120 gravitons/m3/sec, or what number of gravitons? In other friendly words of my somewhat dyslexic encrypted wisdom, how many of those quantum string like gravitons/m3/Newton force of 102 grams/sec of mutual attraction are we talking about? (I'll assume it's a whole lot more than a count of one graviton/m3) .. - Brad Guth |
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On Mar 31, 4:54 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 29, 5:42 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote: It is safe to say "Where there is agravitonthere is also gravity." I like the paper(posted it many times) that Scherk,and Schwartz came up with.in 1972 That in quantum gravity the aggravation is massless and has spin 2 That is by the way twice as fast as photon's spin. My spin is in theory tells that spin 2 makes thegravitonvery heavy(high inertia),and that can explain a lot of the mysteries of thegraviton Bert Then by all means, 2c it is (600,000 km/s = graviton rate of spin) ? Graviton Energy or GE=M2C2 ? BTW, you haven't bothered to offer your best swag to the given population of gravitons/m3, say as found within the Earth-moon L1 = Xe??? number of those pesky gravitons/m3. There's roughly 2e20 N worth of mutual gravity/tidal force of those Newtons to cope with, so are we talking of 2e120 gravitons/m3/sec, or what number of gravitons? In other friendly words of my somewhat dyslexic encrypted wisdom, how many of those quantum string like gravitons/m3/Newton force of 102 grams/sec of mutual attraction are we talking about? (I'll assume it's a whole lot more than a count of one graviton/m3) . - Brad Guth Here's more brain food for this gravity topic of gravitons. Graviton = Gravity / by G=EMC^2 Glazier http://pages.prodigy.net/jhonig/bignum/qaearth.html Atoms in all the earth5 = (a) x (d) x (e)6 = (1.3 x 1025) x (11.34) x (6.02 x 1023) = 88.745 x 1025 x 1023 = 88.745 x 1048 = 8.87 x 1049 The Earth and moon combined volumes are roughly 1.11e21 m3 The combined mass is roughly 6.0475e24 kg Based upon the same Avogadro number of 6.02e23 atoms per mol The combined number of atoms is supposedly in the realm of 9e49 If there were but one graviton per atom, and if 100% of those gravitons were entirely focused down to merging through one m3 volume of the moon's L1 would suggest a volumetric graviton population per m3/ sec of merely 9e49. However, like photons per given atom are many, as well as going off in all possible directions at the same time, in of itself represents that our initial conservative graviton swag of 9e49/m3 is absolute nonsense, and otherwise off by a great many magnitudes of order. Since mass is a given constant and thus each and every associated atom is forever constant as long as said mass exist, and since gravitons are not likely limited as to offering one such measly graviton per atom, nor as limited to offering one given direction of graviton flux, is in of itself suggesting that each and every atom offers a nearly infinite number of said gravitons per any given second. So, what's the true or best swag worth of gravitons/m3/sec existing between Earth and our unusually massive and physically dark moon, if such were quantified as coexisting per second within one m3 of the moon's L1 ? .. - Brad Guth |
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On Mar 29, 5:42 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
It is safe to say "Where there is a graviton there is also gravity." I like the paper(posted it many times) that Scherk,and Schwartz came up with.in 1972 That in quantum gravity the aggravation is massless and has spin 2 That is by the way twice as fast as photon's spin. My spin is in theory tells that spin 2 makes the graviton very heavy(high inertia),and that can explain a lot of the mysteries of the graviton Bert More graviton what-if food for thought. Atom spin or atomic spin = quantum spintronics, or perhaps simply quantum string spin, whereas a given elliptical exit electron velocity is always 'c' unless an external damping force or sluggish quantum medium is applied. Without dire consequences, a rogue electron can not speed up or slow down. Therefore the normal electron velocity of the outer most elliptical atomic orbit or final exit shell is going to be 'c', or nearly 3e8 m/sec, instead of the inner most orbital 2.42e6 m/sec velocity. The same goes for that atomic escape velocity of the rogue photon, and perhaps otherwise at twice 'c' representing the graviton exit velocity. - Here's even more brain food for this gravity topic of fast moving gravitons. Graviton = Gravity / by G=EMC^2 Glazier http://pages.prodigy.net/jhonig/bignum/qaearth.html Atoms in all the earth5 = (a) x (d) x (e)6 = (1.3 x 1025) x (11.34) x (6.02 x 1023) = 88.745 x 1025 x 1023 = 88.745 x 1048 = 8.87 x 1049 The Earth and moon combined volumes are roughly 1.11e21 m3 The combined mass is roughly 6.0475e24 kg Based upon the same Avogadro number of 6.02e23 atoms per mol The combined number of atoms is supposedly in the realm of 9e49 If there were but one graviton per atom, and if 100% of those gravitons were entirely focused down to merging through one m3 volume of the moon's L1 would suggest a volumetric graviton population per m3/ sec of merely 9e49. However, like photons per given atom are many, as well as going off in all possible directions at the same time, in of itself represents that our initial conservative graviton swag of 9e49/m3 is absolute nonsense, and otherwise off by a great many magnitudes of order. Since mass is a given constant and thus each and every associated atom is forever constant as long as said mass exist, and since gravitons are not likely limited as to offering one such measly graviton per atom, nor as limited to offering one given direction of graviton flux, is in of itself suggesting that each and every atom offers a nearly infinite number of said gravitons per any given second. So, what's the true or best swag worth of gravitons/m3/sec existing between Earth and our unusually massive and physically dark moon, if such were quantified as coexisting per second within one given m3 of the moon's L1 ? .. - Brad Guth |
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