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On Mar 12, 4:38 pm, ah wrote:
BradGuth wrote: Is God ****ed, or what? (I'd thought was a perfectly good question) Fuming. If many of us poor and so often uneducated or simply misguided folks can't survive or best trust that our crack FEMA that's in charge of saving our butts manages to entirely divert this one, then we might as well save all of our loot by just giving up and let whatever take place, much like our current FEMA mindset, whereas then whatever the surviving few of our fancy suit wearing and Hummer or Lamborghini driving folks can take all the credit for the good things, and officially blame all the bad stuff on Muslims, or perhaps on Iran, Venezuela or Cuba. Take responsibility for your self; only. Being prepared and as much as possible keeping ourselves ahead of or at least well enough to the side of this lethal incoming ball or God rock is not myself being "DOOM AND GLOOM FOREVER" as so often specified by others, but perhaps that's just little old me thinking on the positive and otherwise constructive side of this uncertain future. Since we've got plenty of time and several opportunities before fearing the big one; What do you and of our public owned supercomputer simulators (like NASA's 2048 CPU monster of our do- everything extremely fast machine) think about the notion of once and for-all sticking it into our moon? (ideally as a rear-ender might not be nearly as horrific) . - Brad Guth On Mar 9, 2:29 pm, BradGuth wrote: I'm not exactly certain if God is ****ed, or what? But why wait, like our FEMA do nothing, and see? At worse this one should not wipe us out, but it's certainly going to tear past us (if all goes well) at a close enough distance that this gravity encounter could cause it to break apart and nail us with multiple parts next time around. We've actually got all the time in the world, because it's technically possible to nudge this item, just enough that unless it brakes up due to gravity/tidal forces, we should be capable of causing enough trajectory drift or skew. Much like spysats in LEO, it's best keeping these pesky items as a whole rather than of many parts. Is the 2029 NEO encounter of #99942 Apophis and that of Earth taking a hit of at least 12e6 tonnes, unless safely passing us at 35,406 km (that being less than a tenth the distance to our moon) close enough? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis size: 270 x 415 meters mass: 26 ~ 46 million tonnes SCENARIOS FOR DEALING WITH APOPHIS http://www.aero.org/conferences/plan...pers/S3-4--Gen... How about pondering on behalf of us poor folks surviving a lithobraking encounter (most likely involving ocean vaporizing displacements) of 12+ km/s? (our NASA has Apophis encountering Earth as of 2036 at merely 12.6 km/s and of only 21e6 tonnes) Actually, I've come up with not more than a worse case of 113 million tonnes if it were on average worth 300 meters and of packing a core of mostly iron or worse yet of thorium. Since it's most likely of a sooty dark ice covered mineral, if not somewhat worse off, I'd say that if anything I'm being sufficiently conservative towards the high side of this what-if mass that keep heading our way until it manages to encounter something substantial. Is there such a thing as RRGI(Road Rage God Insurance)? David A. Smith: Yes, it is called a "viable, funded, space program". I fully agree with David, and if I were the least bit in charge is where that alternative of insuring a "viable, funded, space program" would sound perfectly good to me, especially considering the Godly potential of our encountering and having to survive such horrific collateral damage and carnage of the mostly innocent, as delivered by such a whopping but glancing sucker-punch (meaning from behind), and only made worse yet if we did nothing much (FEMA like) to save ourselves. There's roughly 21 years worth of this trajectory getting shifted or altered by factors of gravity and minor encounters along its orbital path, so there's going to be those unavoidable revisions in the +/- time of arrival, as well as for that timing and NEO distance away from us as we hopefully escape the global lithobraking trauma from yet another cosmic happenstance that'll forever modify though possibly further contribute to life on Earth. However, 21 years simply isn't long enough for getting hardly 10% of humanity safely relocated to higher ground, much less accommodated as protected deep enough within Earth. For most of humanity, a direct ocean hit of that magnitude isn't exactly going to be all that survivable, even if you're situated on the opposite side, as it'll be years down the spendy road before Earth's environment gets normalized. The antipodes and super-mega waves of hot ocean tsunamis haven't been fully estimated, perhaps because it's all too doom and gloom or simply too dark and scary. Too bad we can't effectively modify its orbital trajectory in order to fully terminate Apophis, by way of having it impact our orbiting mascon/moon. At least that sort of win-win option would likely save Earth as well as cover up any signs of our supposed Apollo mission, as forever buried under meters of that dark coal like moon dust. Once having impacted into our naked moon that's so darn coal like dark and nasty (ideally orchestrated as a rear-ender), and all of that highly electrostatic charged dust settles down, we could send our boys with all that rad-hard "right stuff" with their undocumented R&D of those nifty fly-by-rocket landers back to their passive moon that used to look exactly like a xenon lamp spectrum illuminated guano island, in order to harvest whatever remainders of raw elements that used to belong to Apophis, as well as to see whatever else that new hole of an extremely deep crater or gouge into our moon as to offer. . - Brad Guth Amazing. -- ah That was Hitler's plan of action. Did it work for you? .. - BG |
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