Pentagon to Shoot down Spy Sat

On Feb 21, 11:53*pm, David Lesher wrote:
Eric Chomko writes:
My point was we don't know much of anything beyond the press
statements. And they are always 100% factual. Remember the ones about the
missing NASA U-2 recon flight; the one piloted by Gary Powers?
You mean CIA.

You might want to read up on the incident; you're missing an important
aspect of it......[I did mean what I said...]

Are you claiming that NASA is in the spying business?


It's a black project, this was an enormously expensive FUBAR, and
it's not unreasonable to assume there's lots of CYA diversions, and
fingerpointing in all three dimensions.

But since its classified they have a very convenient excuse for
telling you, me and the press diddly-squat about the whole thing. NASA
can't do that as they don't do black projects.
So before you start feeling ovely sorry for the CIA and CYA consider
classification and how that effects negative PR.

The Agency has zero to do with this whole project. So I'm not sure what you
are talking about.

You mean that the NRO who owns the ill-fated satellite has nothing to
do with the CIA? So all that hoopala several years ago in the
Washington Post where the NRO was connected to the CIA was a bunch of
hooie? Including the part where the CIA got ticked off for nothing.
That part?!

You have a 301 area code, you trying to play coy with me?


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On Feb 22, 12:04*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 21, 8:53 pm, David Lesher wrote:





Eric Chomko writes:
My point was we don't know much of anything beyond the press
statements. And they are always 100% factual. Remember the ones about the
missing NASA U-2 recon flight; the one piloted by Gary Powers?
You mean CIA.

You might want to read up on the incident; you're missing an important
aspect of it......[I did mean what I said...]

It's a black project, this was an enormously expensive FUBAR, and
it's not unreasonable to assume there's lots of CYA diversions, and
fingerpointing in all three dimensions.

But since its classified they have a very convenient excuse for
telling you, me and the press diddly-squat about the whole thing. NASA
can't do that as they don't do black projects.
So before you start feeling ovely sorry for the CIA and CYA consider
classification and how that effects negative PR.

The Agency has zero to do with this whole project. So I'm not sure what you
are talking about.

Why of course you silly folks don't know a gosh darn thing, for that
matter about much of anything, especially of anything that could
possibly rock a DoD/MI5/CIA boat. (perhaps Jews can't swim)
. - Brad Guth-

Brad the Spook, chimes in with the perfect response.

Eric Chomko wrote:
You mean that the NRO who owns the ill-fated satellite has nothing to
do with the CIA? So all that hoopala several years ago in the
Washington Post where the NRO was connected to the CIA was a bunch of
hooie? Including the part where the CIA got ticked off for nothing.
That part?!

I fear that I might be getting involved in a conspiracy thread, but let me try
injecting a fact:

www.nro.gov - About Us - Overview, Vision & Mission

A DoD agency, the NRO is staffed by DoD and CIA personnel. It is
funded through the National Reconnaissance Program, part of the
National Foreign Intelligence Program.

it would seem to me that "staffed by" would imply "connected" I hope the
NRO's own web site is authorative enough for the skeptics on this group

On Feb 28, 6:33*pm, Glen Overby wrote:
Eric Chomko *wrote:
You mean that the NRO who owns the ill-fated satellite has nothing to
do with the CIA? So all that hoopala several years ago in the
Washington Post where the NRO was connected to the CIA was a bunch of
hooie? Including the part where the CIA got ticked off for nothing.
That part?!

I fear that I might be getting involved in a conspiracy thread, but let me try
injecting a fact:

www.nro.gov- About Us - Overview, Vision & Mission

* * * * A DoD agency, the NRO is staffed by DoD and CIA personnel. It is
* * * * funded through the National Reconnaissance Program, part of the
* * * * National Foreign Intelligence Program.

Get a list of lobbyists and their backers to the NFIP and you'll learn
a whole lot about who really runs things in Washington.


it would seem to me that "staffed by" would imply "connected" I hope the
NRO's own web site is authorative enough for the skeptics on this group

DOD agency? Gee, just when you thought you could understand the DOD by
saying, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard, the NRO comes
along. Is the NRO part of one of the above or are they added in at the
same level? Are they like the DIA in that regard, not really part of
any of the branches of the service but part of all of them, or are
they more Air Force?

On Feb 29, 8:17 am, Eric Chomko wrote:
On Feb 28, 6:33 pm, Glen Overby wrote:

Eric Chomko wrote:
You mean that the NRO who owns the ill-fated satellite has nothing to
do with the CIA? So all that hoopala several years ago in the
Washington Post where the NRO was connected to the CIA was a bunch of
hooie? Including the part where the CIA got ticked off for nothing.
That part?!

I fear that I might be getting involved in a conspiracy thread, but let me try
injecting a fact:

www.nro.gov- About Us - Overview, Vision & Mission

A DoD agency, the NRO is staffed by DoD and CIA personnel. It is
funded through the National Reconnaissance Program, part of the
National Foreign Intelligence Program.

Get a list of lobbyists and their backers to the NFIP and you'll learn
a whole lot about who really runs things in Washington.



it would seem to me that "staffed by" would imply "connected" I hope the
NRO's own web site is authorative enough for the skeptics on this group

DOD agency? Gee, just when you thought you could understand the DOD by
saying, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard, the NRO comes
along. Is the NRO part of one of the above or are they added in at the
same level? Are they like the DIA in that regard, not really part of
any of the branches of the service but part of all of them, or are
they more Air Force?

The US has a couple of dozen of those cloak and dagger and/or war
perpetrating agencies, most of which do not share or otherwise
communicate with one another, some of which answer to no one (just
like in their Skull and Bones good old Third Reich days).
.. - Brad Guth