Interesting "Planet_X" Information From Russia!

Earl Colby Pottinger wrote:

Rudolph_X :

{SNIP usual ZetaDrone garbage]

But Rudolph_X, Planet X was suppose to come months ago and wipe out all us
debunkers. But we are still here, and all our predictions have been corret.
On the otherhand not one of Nancy's predictions for planet x came true and
here you are still trying to push the same old claims that never panned out
in the first place.

Add onto it the fact that you said that you would never post here again, yet
here you are making a liar out of yourself, then why care anything about what
you say when we already know that you and Nancy are both self-admitted liars?
Please get a life.

Earl Colby Pottinger


You should know by now, that I like to drop in from time to time, just
to see what you folks are up to.

Hey, I didn't write that article. I just provided a link to it. Folks
can decide for themselves if what was written there is true or false.
Calling me a liar isn't going to change that.

My detractors always engage in personal attacks... they never discuss
the issues at hand. The link I posted was about what a Russian scientist
had to say about 'Planet_X'... The content of the article has nothing to
do with me. I didn't write it. I just posted a link to it. Personal
attacks against me... have nothing whatsoever to do with what the
Russian scientist said about Planet_X.

Hey, thanks for your comments anyway. It is always nice to hear from
you, you old rattlesnake.

In article ,
Rudolph_X wrote:

Earl Colby Pottinger wrote:

Rudolph_X :

{SNIP usual ZetaDrone garbage]

But Rudolph_X, Planet X was suppose to come months ago and wipe out all us
debunkers. But we are still here, and all our predictions have been corret.
On the otherhand not one of Nancy's predictions for planet x came true and
here you are still trying to push the same old claims that never panned out
in the first place.

Add onto it the fact that you said that you would never post here again, yet
here you are making a liar out of yourself, then why care anything about what
you say when we already know that you and Nancy are both self-admitted liars?
Please get a life.

Earl Colby Pottinger

You should know by now, that I like to drop in from time to time, just
to see what you folks are up to.

True, we know by now that your claims are nothing to trust.....


Hey, I didn't write that article. I just provided a link to it.

You did more than that --- you also claimed it was "interesting"....

Folks can decide for themselves if what was written there is true or false.

The article is obviously false! I mean, it's impossible for a
planet, or ANY celestial body, to move in an Earth-like orbit and
always be hidden from our view by the Sun, and at the same time have
an orbital period of 3600 years as this article claims.... In
addition any "anti-Earth" moving in the Earth's orbit but on the
other side of the Sun such that the Sun always hides it from our
vire, such a planet would soon reveal its presence anyway by its
perturbations on the other planets (in particular Venus and Mars).
No such perturbations have ever been observed.

He also wrote a lot of other nonsense besides his speculations about
PX. Here he was much more vague though, so at least he avoided
outright self-contradictions. Consider this:

# GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this installation?
#
# VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the southeast is
# the very large and famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that, to the
# north, is a huge and barren territory covering 100,000
# kilometres. Hardly anyone lives there. There are no towns or
# cities. Here is where we located the installation ...

He never gets more specific than this. Why didn't he instead just
provide an accurate longitude and latitude of this "installation" he
claims to have found? Today it's easy to do so, with GPS receivers
being so easily available.

(also: he doesn't seem to know the difference between kilometers and
square kilometers.... but perhaps he meant that this barren area was
100,000 kilometers across? Well, if so, it's indeed a huge barren
area, with a diameter some eight times larger than the diameter of
the entire Earth!!! g )

Calling me a liar isn't going to change that.

My detractors always engage in personal attacks... they never discuss
the issues at hand. The link I posted was about what a Russian scientist
had to say about 'Planet_X'... The content of the article has nothing to
do with me. I didn't write it. I just posted a link to it. Personal
attacks against me... have nothing whatsoever to do with what the
Russian scientist said about Planet_X.

But what he has to say about PX, which you find "interesting"
according to your own words, is just as impossible as what N*nc* had
to say about PX..... nothing new here.....

Hey, thanks for your comments anyway. It is always nice to hear from
you, you old rattlesnake.

THINK before you post next time, will you ????

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Paul Schlyter wrote:

In article ,
Rudolph_X wrote:



Earl Colby Pottinger wrote:



Rudolph_X :

{SNIP usual ZetaDrone garbage]

But Rudolph_X, Planet X was suppose to come months ago and wipe out all us
debunkers. But we are still here, and all our predictions have been corret.
On the otherhand not one of Nancy's predictions for planet x came true and
here you are still trying to push the same old claims that never panned out
in the first place.

Add onto it the fact that you said that you would never post here again, yet
here you are making a liar out of yourself, then why care anything about what
you say when we already know that you and Nancy are both self-admitted liars?
Please get a life.

Earl Colby Pottinger


You should know by now, that I like to drop in from time to time, just
to see what you folks are up to.



True, we know by now that your claims are nothing to trust.....




Hey, I didn't write that article. I just provided a link to it.



You did more than that --- you also claimed it was "interesting"....

Folks have been discussing PX on this newsgroup for nearly 10 years -
because it is NOT interesting? Is that what you are saying? Of course it
is interesting - for folks who take an interest is this kind of subject
matter.




Folks can decide for themselves if what was written there is true or false.



The article is obviously false! I mean, it's impossible for a
planet, or ANY celestial body, to move in an Earth-like orbit and
always be hidden from our view by the Sun, and at the same time have
an orbital period of 3600 years as this article claims....

The article does not claim that. The Russian scientist said he heard
rumors about a 3,600 year orbit, but he counters that by saying that he
is talking about a planet which has an orbit similar to that of Earth's,
but on the other side of the Sun. He also claims that the 'alien' base
in Siberia regulates the orbits of both planets and to maintain
stability in our solar system. (I personally don't subscribe to these
theories, however they are interesting and thought provoking speculations.)

In
addition any "anti-Earth" moving in the Earth's orbit but on the
other side of the Sun such that the Sun always hides it from our
vire, such a planet would soon reveal its presence anyway by its
perturbations on the other planets (in particular Venus and Mars).

Not if, as the Russian scientist claims that, the orbits are being
regulated by the 'alien' underground base in Siberia. (He also said that
there are 3 other similar bases in the USA.)

No such perturbations have ever been observed.

And, they are not likely to be observed, if indeed the 'aliens' are
keeping knowledge of the other planet hidden from us. If these 'aliens'
are manitaining the stability of our solar system, with their advanced
scientific technology, no such irrregular perturbations would be
casually evident.


He also wrote a lot of other nonsense besides his speculations about
PX. Here he was much more vague though, so at least he avoided
outright self-contradictions.

I don't know if the Russian was speaking broken-english or if the
interview was translated, but one should realize the language barrier
can sometimes cause confusion. The transcript does not reveal or convey
a Russian accent or the manner of speech used. Something is always lost
in translations from foreign lanuages, and this could account for the
apparent vagueness of some of the comments made.

I doubt that the Russian scientist who is the head of an official
Russian government agency in charge of the investigation, is a stupid
person, simply because he may not be fluent in the English language.

Consider this:

# GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this installation?
#
# VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the southeast is
# the very large and famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that, to the
# north, is a huge and barren territory covering 100,000
# kilometres. Hardly anyone lives there. There are no towns or
# cities. Here is where we located the installation ...

He never gets more specific than this. Why didn't he instead just
provide an accurate longitude and latitude of this "installation" he
claims to have found? Today it's easy to do so, with GPS receivers
being so easily available.

Like I said, the language barrier could have caused this. The Russian
obviously doesn't speak english good enough to convey his thoughts as
clearly as we would like. We would have to see the filmed interview to
get a sense of what was really said.


(also: he doesn't seem to know the difference between kilometers and
square kilometers.... but perhaps he meant that this barren area was
100,000 kilometers across? Well, if so, it's indeed a huge barren
area, with a diameter some eight times larger than the diameter of
the entire Earth!!! g )



Calling me a liar isn't going to change that.

My detractors always engage in personal attacks... they never discuss
the issues at hand. The link I posted was about what a Russian scientist
had to say about 'Planet_X'... The content of the article has nothing to
do with me. I didn't write it. I just posted a link to it. Personal
attacks against me... have nothing whatsoever to do with what the
Russian scientist said about Planet_X.



But what he has to say about PX, which you find "interesting"
according to your own words, is just as impossible as what N*nc* had
to say about PX..... nothing new here.....

Like I said earlier, I don't fully subscribe to either of those
theories. I do, however, find them to be entertaining, and certainly of
interest to anyone who has followed the various and diverse PX
discussions on this newsgroup over the past 10 years.




Hey, thanks for your comments anyway. It is always nice to hear from
you, you old rattlesnake.



THINK before you post next time, will you ????


Your response was the only one given here that actually touched on some
of the issues put forward in the Russian interview. Thanks for your
comments.

In article ,
Rudolph_X wrote:

Paul Schlyter wrote:

In article ,
Rudolph_X wrote:
...............
Hey, I didn't write that article. I just provided a link to it.

You did more than that --- you also claimed it was "interesting"....

Folks have been discussing PX on this newsgroup for nearly 10 years -
because it is NOT interesting? Is that what you are saying? Of course it
is interesting - for folks who take an interest is this kind of subject
matter.

Yep --- and since you also claimed it was "interesting", you've revealed
yourself as one of those who are interested in this nonsense... therefore
you should take responsibility for what you post and not try to evade
by saying "I didn't write that article".... no you didn't write it,
but you did choose to post a link to it and reveal your interest in it.

Folks can decide for themselves if what was written there is true or false.

The article is obviously false! I mean, it's impossible for a
planet, or ANY celestial body, to move in an Earth-like orbit and
always be hidden from our view by the Sun, and at the same time have
an orbital period of 3600 years as this article claims....

The article does not claim that. The Russian scientist said he heard
rumors about a 3,600 year orbit, but he counters that by saying that he
is talking about a planet which has an orbit similar to that of Earth's,
but on the other side of the Sun.

That's an old idea, and it was dismissed over 100 years ago because
such a planet would cause noticeable perturbations on the other
planets. No such perturbations have been observed.

He also claims that the 'alien' base in Siberia regulates the orbits
of both planets and to maintain stability in our solar system.

But still, that wouldn't remove the pertirbations from that
"anti-Earth" on e.g. Venus and Mars. Also: how could such a device
remotely adjust the position of a planet on the other side of the
Sun, without causing very noticeable effects in its surroundings?

(I personally don't subscribe to these theories, however they are
interesting and thought provoking speculations.)

It's very easy to invent an interesting and thought-proviking idea;
our world is full of them! But it's much much harder to have an idea
which actually is correct...

In addition any "anti-Earth" moving in the Earth's orbit but on the
other side of the Sun such that the Sun always hides it from our
vire, such a planet would soon reveal its presence anyway by its
perturbations on the other planets (in particular Venus and Mars).

Not if, as the Russian scientist claims that, the orbits are being
regulated by the 'alien' underground base in Siberia.

The only way to do this by "remote control" would be through
gravitation --- and that would require masses far larger than the
mass of the entire Earth.....

(He also said that there are 3 other similar bases in the USA.)

Yep, he spoke a lot of nonsense..... I suppose he didn't give any
specifics about WHERE in the USA they were situated, right?

No such perturbations have ever been observed.

And, they are not likely to be observed, if indeed the 'aliens' are
keeping knowledge of the other planet hidden from us. If these 'aliens'
are manitaining the stability of our solar system, with their advanced
scientific technology, no such irrregular perturbations would be
casually evident.

Well, then you have a decision to make: what's most proable?

1. This guy is telling the truth, and an alien species is indeed
controlling the planets in the solar system, making their motions
violate the natural laws known by us since centuries ago. This is
done remotely, from "bases" at a few places in the Earth, without
causing any noticeable effects in the vicinity.

2. This guy is full of **** and is speaking nonsense.

1. has never happened before while 2. has happened many many many
times before. Now, make your choice!

He also wrote a lot of other nonsense besides his speculations about
PX. Here he was much more vague though, so at least he avoided
outright self-contradictions.

I don't know if the Russian was speaking broken-english or if the
interview was translated, but one should realize the language barrier
can sometimes cause confusion. The transcript does not reveal or convey
a Russian accent or the manner of speech used. Something is always lost
in translations from foreign lanuages, and this could account for the
apparent vagueness of some of the comments made.

So why didn't the reporter bring along a person who knew Russian?
It's not such an exotic language, instead it's one of the dozen or so
most spoken languages of the world! And it's a well-known fact that
you can't expect people to understand English in all parts of the world.

I doubt that the Russian scientist who is the head of an official
Russian government agency in charge of the investigation, is a stupid
person, simply because he may not be fluent in the English language.

However, the reporter who travelled there, without bringing an
interpreter along with him, was indeed stupid.... or perhaps he did
this intentionally, in order to later be able to blame errors/etc on
the "language barrier" ?

Consider this:

# GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this installation?
#
# VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the southeast is
# the very large and famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that, to the
# north, is a huge and barren territory covering 100,000
# kilometres. Hardly anyone lives there. There are no towns or
# cities. Here is where we located the installation ...

He never gets more specific than this. Why didn't he instead just
provide an accurate longitude and latitude of this "installation" he
claims to have found? Today it's easy to do so, with GPS receivers
being so easily available.

Like I said, the language barrier could have caused this.

Not bloddy likely! Russians use the same digits as we do. And the
reporter could at least have brought a dictionary with him! Or maybe
the Russian scientist who is the head of an official Russian
government agency in charge of the investigation (and therefore not a
stupid person :-) had such a dictionary? He should, if he attempted
to speal English....

The Russian obviously doesn't speak english good enough to convey his
thoughts as clearly as we would like. We would have to see the filmed
interview to get a sense of what was really said.

If his English was so bad that he was unable to give a longitude and
latitude, then it would have been even more impossible for him to
give all the other stuff which appeared in the translation. So perhaps
all of it is due to this "language barrier", i.e. the reporter's
misunderstanding of that Russian's not-so-good English ?????


But what he has to say about PX, which you find "interesting"
according to your own words, is just as impossible as what N*nc* had
to say about PX..... nothing new here.....

Like I said earlier, I don't fully subscribe to either of those
theories. I do, however, find them to be entertaining,

If your major interst here is entertainment, perhaps you should have
selected another newsgroup?

and certainly of interest to anyone who has followed the various
and diverse PX discussions on this newsgroup over the past 10 years.

Its main interest is as a case study of the human psyche.....

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