Arctic Ice Meltdown

Eduard Groenstein wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:48:13 -0600, kT wrote:


You are a creationist fool, apparently. The DNA evidence is conclusive.

Oh dear. How quickly the old creationist insult was brought out. I
previously stated my disbelief in god, so how could I be a creationist?

As for DNA evidence, I think you have been watching too many CSI episodes.

Darwinism.... if that's your religion it disagrees, it suggests that if
his DNA were "fool" DNA, it would have been extinguished from the
planet.... So maybe his compassionate God is taking pity on your DNA
instead?


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On Jan 22, 8:04 am, Matthew Lybanon wrote:
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"Eduard Groenstein" wrote:



On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:13:41 -0600, kT wrote:

Marsha, humans are ****ing up the Earth and its inhabitants *ROYALLY*.

No peer review is required.

Good luck tomorrow, call me if you need a shoulder to cry on.

Why should anyone cry? You should be joyous because we are just modifying
Earth to better suit our _own_ requirements as a species.

There are still many initiatives we can take. Today we can scientifically
identify competing species and selectively extinct or crash them in order
to tweak resource competition in our favour.

Technologically challenged countries like France, Italy, Spain and
Portugal can be converted into giant agricultural complexes managed via
telrebotics from Berlin, Beijing, Sydney and New York.

Some human populations will crash, some will prosper. This is the organic
way things work.

The human race is a part of nature, and intellect is an important
determinant of human behavior. So, changes that humans introduce to
make life better for millions are NOT "contrary to nature." There is a
great deal of violence in what most people think of as "nature" (all
other species), so even something that appears destructive may not be
purely bad. MAY NOT! Since humans have intelligence, we should use it.
In many cases we don't have a clear understanding of the consequences of
our actions, so caution is a much better use of that intelligence than
plunging blindly ahead at 100 miles an hour. The destruction of another
species (or the polar ice cap) simply as a consequence of our
carelessness is stupid.

Most humans have lost a great deal of critical DNA code somewhere
along their evolutionary path, and in order to make up for that loss
we lie, kill off our own kind and otherwise simply take as much as
possible from others in order to suit our faith-based mindset
(especially on behalf of our pretend atheism mindset), as being every
bit as nasty to one another and that of trashing our frail environment
as possible.
- Brad Guth

On Jan 21, 11:09 pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"kT" wrote in ...
Phil. wrote:

Check this out:

http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/app/WsvPa...11892&Lang=eng

Here is the story :

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...a00a8d-9aa6-41...

Things are happening so fast now, newspapers are the cutting edge of
science publication. Peer review? Who needs it. It's all real time.

"That means Arctic summer ice, which has capped the planet for more
than a million years, might be gone by 2010, says Barber."

Gulp! Sailing into uncharted waters so to speak.

Nature follows a power law wrt change. Countless small
changes combined with the rare 'big one'. The really
big changes, the ones the matter, arrive quickly
and catastrophically.

This would be evidence of which kind of change?
Incremental, or catastrophic?

Geologic time, or real time?

We've got 3.5e16 ~ 4e16 m3 of ice above sea level to go, not to
mention factors of the subsequent thermal expansion, flows of greatly
accelerated land erosion going to sea, and a few of those under sea
eruptions of lava and mud flows taking place.

Earth is also 98.5% fluid as to the gravity/tidal energy of our moon.
Go figure.

Too bad that all of this planetology science is simply far too complex
for NASA's 2048 CPU supercomputer to simulate.
- Brad Guth