A dark future for cosmology

On Dec 27, 4:20*am, "Painius" wrote:

There seems to be a definite, more orderly set
of vibrations...

Sounds suspiciously like the the sub-Planckian wavelength domain.

...that are emitted by sentient life.

Not just "emitted by" sentient life, but filling every cc of space,
everywhere.

And as well, there also seems to be a definite
"receiver" of these emissions, these "vibes" if
you will, "out there somewhere". *I've had a
good deal of experiences in my life for which
there appears to be no better explanation!

You oughta do some Googling on the work of Bohm and Pribram too. Lotta
good stuff about Bohm's 'Implicate Order' that underlies physical
realty (corresponding to the sub-Planck energy domain or SPED), its
universally holographic nature, and its being the root of
consciousness. As Sagan once said, we are "star stuff". And more to
the point, we are "space stuff" as well.

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On Dec 27, 4:20 am, "Painius" wrote:

There seems to be a definite, more orderly set
of vibrations...

Sounds suspiciously like the the sub-Planckian wavelength domain.

...that are emitted by sentient life.

Not just "emitted by" sentient life, but filling every cc of space,
everywhere.

And as well, there also seems to be a definite
"receiver" of these emissions, these "vibes" if
you will, "out there somewhere". I've had a
good deal of experiences in my life for which
there appears to be no better explanation!

You oughta do some Googling on the work of Bohm and Pribram too. Lotta
good stuff about Bohm's 'Implicate Order' that underlies physical
realty (corresponding to the sub-Planck energy domain or SPED), its
universally holographic nature, and its being the root of
consciousness. As Sagan once said, we are "star stuff". And more to
the point, we are "space stuff" as well.

Hmm... "holographic", "holonomic", "Gestalt",
"implicate order", "the whole is greater than the
sum of its parts".

How can this be? If there *is* such a thing as
implicate order, then how can the whole possibly
be greater than the sum of its parts?

If Bohm and Pribram had started from the other
end (from the whole itself rather than from the
"parts and particles" of quantum physics and
cognitive neuroscience, then instead of implicate
order, they would have come up with "implicate
chaos" instead.

Chaos, to be found within an orderly "whole", is
the only way that the whole can be greater than
the sum of its parts (if one is to give credence to
Gestalt theory).

Personally, i think that any living thing is proof
that a whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Non-living things, too, for that matter. It's just
more obvious in living things.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine

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On Jan 14, 1:12*am, "Painius" wrote:

Hmm... "holographic", "holonomic", "Gestalt",
"implicate order", "the whole is greater than the
sum of its parts".

How can this be? *If there *is* such a thing as
implicate order, then how can the whole possibly
be greater than the sum of its parts?

If Bohm and Pribram had started from the other
end (from the whole itself rather than from the
"parts and particles" of quantum physics and
cognitive neuroscience, then instead of implicate
order, they would have come up with "implicate
chaos" instead.

As discussed many times, Wolter operated from a different base
entirely, using what he termed 'intutitive extrapolation' (IE). It's
based on observing patterns and principles in nature that are
consistently recurrent, and deducing the nature of the unseen from it.
It's based on Occam's Razor and the law of probability (vis-a-vis
"uncertainty"). What is unseen is *more likely* to display the same
patterns/principles as what is seen, than not. He nicknamed it the
'iceberg principle'. He built his entire cosmology on it, starting
from the Maxim "There is no perceptible upper limit to amplitude of EM
radiation, testifying to a *carrier medium* of even greater energy
density than the most energetic wave it carries." From that one Maxim
nucleated the entire CBB model and its numerous, cross-congruent
'sidebars'.
Seeing the extreme ordered-ness of the Periodic
Table, IE deduced the sub-Planck domain as a realm of exquisite,
octave-like *order* (vis-a-vis "chaos"), as we discussed here several
times. Wolter had never heard of chaos theory, and had never studied
Bohm/Pribram until his last few months. When he did study Bohm, he
found that Bohm's 'Implicate Order' dovetailed exquisitely with his
sub-Planckian "super energy-dense matrix of space" (as he called it
then). And Pribram's work with holography squared with its
intrinsically, universally holographic nature. (Ever pondered on the
same-ness of all the elements, everywhere, at all times? How do the
elements 'know' to be what they are, even when far out of lightspeed
communication on opposite sides of the universe.. except for the
universally-holographic Plenum of space?)

Chaos, to be found within an orderly "whole", is
the only way that the whole can be greater than
the sum of its parts (if one is to give credence to
Gestalt theory).

Seems more like "chaos" theory and its 'Bobbsey Twin', Uncertainty,
are spinoffs of the VSP. :-)

Personally, i think that any living thing is proof
that a whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Non-living things, too, for that matter. *It's just
more obvious in living things.

Amen, bro.

oc