Use of Black Holes ???

We see there use as the hub of spiral galaxies. The axis is used like
the hub of a wheel is used with spokes coming out of it so that its rim
turns in unison. The stars being the spokes. Hawking
has BH evaporating,and that is bad thinking. What BH do and this was
their main function before the first original BB took place was to
separate cosmic space's two energies "virtual" and "real". Lots of good
scientific thinking has shown me how gravities great force can
accomplish this action. In both micro,and than in the macro realm.
Reality is just before entering a black hole is the most fascinating,and
dynamic of all spacetimes. bert

On Jul 13, 6:25 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
We see there use as the hub of spiral galaxies. The axis is used like
the hub of a wheel is used with spokes coming out of it so that its rim
turns in unison. The stars being the spokes. Hawking
has BH evaporating,and that is bad thinking. What BH do and this was
their main function before the first original BB took place was to
separate cosmic space's two energies "virtual" and "real". Lots of good
scientific thinking has shown me how gravities great force can
accomplish this action. In both micro,and than in the macro realm.
Reality is just before entering a black hole is the most fascinating,and
dynamic of all spacetimes. bert


Nothing can enter a black hole. Time rate dilates infinitely at the
event horizon.

Double-A

Double-A Particles come as close to "c' before entering a BH. with
this added inertia and A BH great gravity they do enter, We out side
observers just are not able to detect the instant of entry. But to think
otherwise is not reality bert

On Jul 13, 7:06 am, Double-A wrote:

Nothing can enter a black hole. Time rate dilates infinitely at the
event horizon.

From our frame of referance 'out here' it appears to dilate. But from
the frame of referance 'there', the clock is still running at the
normal rate. Frame of referance is everything. :-) oc

On Jul 13, 10:53 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Double-A Particles come as close to "c' before entering a BH. with
this added inertia and A BH great gravity they do enter, We out side
observers just are not able to detect the instant of entry. But to think
otherwise is not reality bert


Measuring from our frame of reference, particles and light itself
approach the speed of 0 m/s as they near the event horizon, just like
those radio waves coming from Mars slow down as they pass the Sun.
With infinite time dilation, the moment of entry could not happen
during the lifetime of the universe.

Double-A

On Jul 13, 11:20 am, oldcoot wrote:
On Jul 13, 7:06 am, Double-A wrote:

Nothing can enter a black hole. Time rate dilates infinitely at the
event horizon.

From our frame of referance 'out here' it appears to dilate. But from

the frame of referance 'there', the clock is still running at the
normal rate. Frame of referance is everything. :-) oc


Sure it is, but a funny thing happens on the way to the event
horizon: the universe meets its final fate! That is, unless infinite
means something other than what I think it does. But since Hawking
radiation is believed to leaving the black hole at a finite rate,
don't you suppose the black hole will have evaporated before the
infinite time has passed that it takes you to fall in?

Double-A

On Jul 13, 11:39 am, Double-A wrote:

..don't you suppose the black hole will have evaporated before the
infinite time has passed that it takes you to fall in?

Nope. Your on-board chronometer, your wris****ch as it were, is
running at the normal rate at all times. By time you reach the point
of falling in, it's *still* ticking at the normal (to your referance
frame) rate. And you'll fall right on in, experiencing acute
spagettification* in the process. But to our frame 'out here', your
infall will seem to be infinitely long.

*..unless it's a supermassive BH, in which case the 'spagettification'
effect is nowhere near as severe.
oc

double-A I take exception to that time delation at that spacetime and
say E= MC^2 pops in just outside the event horizon. bert

Easy short theory. "There can be no universe unless it has 10^ 800
black holes immersed in its infinite cosmic space" bert

Double -A Can my ego be taking over if I theorize G=EMC^2 kicks in at
the length,and spacetime of a Planck before stuff enters a black hole. I
can see GR and SR emerging at this instant. bert