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![]() "bz" wrote in message 98.139... George Dishman wrote in oups.com: On 3 Jul, 13:19, bz wrote: HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote in news:rmcj83puhpk8l09pclb7ubl18ieb5khjcm@ 4ax.com: Ah, I see your problem. You aren't taking account of the sequential emission delays between the 'pulses'. That is fundamental to the bunching calculations. You are assuming they are all emitted at the same instant. you do realize that, for the velocities involved in your typical variable star, the delta v (change in velocity of the emission source) between the 'front end' and the 'back end' of the photon, during the time it takes to emit a photon, is essentially zero, don't you? [this is true whether one considers the photon length to be the same as the wave length or millions of wavelengths.] You have to remember Henry is using a classical concept for a photon, so it is the latter "millions of wavelengths" definition you have to use. The change of launch speed between the ends is therefore just the time taken multiplied by the average acceleration over those cycles. That blows Henry's model out of the water since the spectral shift has to match the 'photon bunching' because the mechanism that bunches phtotons also bunches the cycles within a photon by the same factor. The correspondence is that an orbital speed of 300km/s (fastest contact binary) should give a luminosity variation of just +/- 0.001 magnitudes. Kind of 'lost in the noise', right? Exactly. It's surprising that people like Sekerin who pushed this years ago didn't see that problem. Blows holes in his concrete boat. Not concrete, it has enough holes to be chicken wire. That's why Henry added another ad hoc bodge to the theory of photons being incompresible, but that doesn't work when you consider a simple pulse-modulated monochromatic source. Last time I looked inside a laser, there was absolutely no sign of 'HW bunching'. Otherwise there would be terrible keying 'chirp' [frequency shift] {which would KILL gigabit data transfer over fiber}. The way he looks at it, you would need to accelerate the whole laser to get bunching. An example might be a natural maser in a stellar atmosphere of it was part of a binary system. Sadly Henry doesn't know enough about RF or audio to follow that argument and ended up going off on tangents about white light, but the evidence is still there. HWdaemons only seem to live in the space between galaxies, so there is no way the phenomina can be tested on earth or by sighting within our solar system. Since any refractive index sets the speed to c/n relative to the material, it would be limited to regions where the density is too low to get a dispersion measure. That rules out anything in our galaxy. ... where intellegent life is absent, then the ballistic theory of light can freely reign. I would agree with that, though not for technical reasons. George |
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