How Old is our Universe?

The WMAP data is as good as it gets right now, and the value for the age
of the universe is less than 14 billion years. The error bars on the
data are quite tight too.

That is pure nonsense, from a species of mortal little human beings,
that doesn't even know how to prolong their short lifespans for more
than 100 years.

God is more knowledgable in every possible way, than your mortal
little species can even imagine.

wrote:
The WMAP data is as good as it gets right now, and the value for the age
of the universe is less than 14 billion years. The error bars on the
data are quite tight too.


That is pure nonsense, from a species of mortal little human beings,
that doesn't even know how to prolong their short lifespans for more
than 100 years.

God is more knowledgable in every possible way, than your mortal
little species can even imagine.


That, of course, assumes that such supernatural beings exist. As to you
not being a mortal, you are delusional.

Scott Reality is humankind guessing the age of the universe with the
detectors we have now makes the guess come out of
probability(uncertainty) Bad approximation. bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Scott Reality is humankind guessing the age of the universe with the
detectors we have now makes the guess come out of
probability(uncertainty) Bad approximation. bert


Let's see. Based on available data, the conclusion drawn is the
conclusion drawn. Based on nothing, other than you don't like the
current age predicted by current theories and supported by current
observations, you pick a completely different number. So, unless you
can provide scientifically validatable evidence to the contrary, you
really have no leg to stand on (no pun intended based on your mention of
your recent fall).

The WMAP data is as good as it gets right now.

The universe is composed of:
4% ordinary baryonic matter
22% an unknown type of dark matter, which does not emit or absorb
light.
74% a mysterious dark energy, which acts to accelerate expansion.

4% known, and 96% unknown? Yes, that is how good as it gets for your
pathetic little brain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapiro_delay

On Jun 17, 7:48 am, wrote:
The WMAP data is as good as it gets right now.

The universe is composed of:
4% ordinary baryonic matter
22% an unknown type of dark matter, which does not emit or absorb
light.
74% a mysterious dark energy, which acts to accelerate expansion.

4% known, and 96% unknown? Yes, that is how good as it gets for your
pathetic little brain.


The need for these unknown types of matter and energy stem from the
assumption that GR is correct and complete. Einstein tried to account
for more factors in his equation of gravity than Newton did, but that
doesn't mean that he took everything into account. Local differences
in the pressure and flow of space could explain the discrepancies
without resorting to unknown forms of matter and energy.

Double-A

wrote:
The WMAP data is as good as it gets right now.


The universe is composed of:
4% ordinary baryonic matter
22% an unknown type of dark matter, which does not emit or absorb
light.
74% a mysterious dark energy, which acts to accelerate expansion.

4% known, and 96% unknown? Yes, that is how good as it gets for your
pathetic little brain.


But, not knowing what it is is not the same as not knowing what it does.
Observations will likely reduce the lack of knowledge of what dark
energy and dark matter are. That and more logical thinking than what
you are capable of demonstrating.

Scott My addition takes in time for the first neutron to form. Time for
these decaying neutrons to become hydrogen atoms,and helium. Time for
gravity to create clouds. Time for the first star to form without any
help from heavy elements. I don't mind giving galaxies like the Milky
Way just 9 billion years to create billions and billions of stars. Its
the spacetime of creating nebula's that took the most time. bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Scott My addition takes in time for the first neutron to form. Time for
these decaying neutrons to become hydrogen atoms,and helium. Time for
gravity to create clouds. Time for the first star to form without any
help from heavy elements. I don't mind giving galaxies like the Milky
Way just 9 billion years to create billions and billions of stars. Its
the spacetime of creating nebula's that took the most time. bert


That is all accounted for in the age determination too. And the result
is still less than 14 billion years.