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In article ,
Pat Flannery wrote:
We've got a killer cyborg as the governor of a state...and you're saying
_I'm_ getting delusional?

Don't get excited. It's not the first time that particular state has
elected a second-rate actor to be governor, after all.

(And fortunately, since Ahnold was not born in the US, he can't follow in
his predecessor's footsteps...)
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:53:45 GMT, in a place far, far away,
(Henry Spencer) made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:

In article ,
Pat Flannery wrote:
We've got a killer cyborg as the governor of a state...and you're saying
_I'm_ getting delusional?

Don't get excited. It's not the first time that particular state has
elected a second-rate actor to be governor, after all.

(And fortunately, since Ahnold was not born in the US, he can't follow in
his predecessor's footsteps...)

Barring a constitutional amendment.

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:53:45 GMT, in a place far, far away,
(Henry Spencer) made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:

In article ,
Pat Flannery wrote:
We've got a killer cyborg as the governor of a state...and you're saying
_I'm_ getting delusional?

Don't get excited. It's not the first time that particular state has
elected a second-rate actor to be governor, after all.

(And fortunately, since Ahnold was not born in the US, he can't follow in
his predecessor's footsteps...)

Barring a constitutional amendment.

Or an "interpretation" by the Supreme Court. The equal protection clause
sounds like a clear way to get around the Article II restriction.

Robert

In article t,
"Robert Allan Zeh" wrote:

Or an "interpretation" by the Supreme Court. The equal protection clause
sounds like a clear way to get around the Article II restriction.

Nope. That's not how the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment works.

--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
Reformed Aerospace Engineer
"Heisenberg might have been here."
~ Anonymous

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:44:43 -0600, Herb Schaltegger wrote:

In article t,
"Robert Allan Zeh" wrote:

Or an "interpretation" by the Supreme Court. The equal protection clause
sounds like a clear way to get around the Article II restriction.

Nope. That's not how the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment works.

Well, maybe Ahnold could somehow arrange for Austria to become the 51st
state. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona three years before it became a
state. His status as a "natural born citizen" was recognized
retroactively, although never tested in the courts.

Rick DeNatale wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:44:43 -0600, Herb Schaltegger wrote:


In article t,
"Robert Allan Zeh" wrote:


Or an "interpretation" by the Supreme Court. The equal protection clause
sounds like a clear way to get around the Article II restriction.

Nope. That's not how the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment works.


Well, maybe Ahnold could somehow arrange for Austria to become the 51st
state. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona three years before it became a
state. His status as a "natural born citizen" was recognized
retroactively, although never tested in the courts.



Slightly different case. AZ was already a US terrority and Goldwater's
parents were US citizens, IIRC.

In article , Rick DeNatale wrote:

Well, maybe Ahnold could somehow arrange for Austria to become the 51st
state. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona three years before it became a
state. His status as a "natural born citizen" was recognized
retroactively, although never tested in the courts.

Arizona was a US territorial posession at the time, though. There may
have historically been a case of someone born outside the US or land
owned by the US running and it having been debated, but I'm not aware of
one.

[In a more recent example, McCain was born in Panama - in the Canal
Zone, that is. The first person to try and bring up Chester A. Arthur
gets an evil look ;-)]

As such, there's no precedent either explicitly or conventionally as to
what woud be done, to the best of my knowledge - although the details of
the legal status of Texans immediately post-statehood might be relevant.

--
-Andrew Gray

In article ,
Andrew Gray wrote:
In article , Rick DeNatale wrote:

Well, maybe Ahnold could somehow arrange for Austria to become the 51st
state. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona three years before it became a
state. His status as a "natural born citizen" was recognized
retroactively, although never tested in the courts.

Arizona was a US territorial posession at the time, though. There may
have historically been a case of someone born outside the US or land
owned by the US running and it having been debated, but I'm not aware of
one.

It seems to me there's a way to elect someone not born in the USA
to POTUS but it requires them to predate the USA. Ahnold misses out on that
by the better part of two hundred years.

Ah, now we know the real goal of Skynet: not to kill Sarah Conner
but to send Ahnold back far enough to qualify for POTUS.

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be surprised. -Valentin Lebedev-

On 1 Nov 2003 18:48:34 GMT, Andrew Gray
wrote:

[In a more recent example, McCain was born in Panama - in the Canal
Zone, that is. The first person to try and bring up Chester A. Arthur
gets an evil look ;-)]

OK, I'll do it.

What's so important about Chester A. Arthur in this context?

John

In article ,
Rick DeNatale wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:44:43 -0600, Herb Schaltegger wrote:

In article t,
"Robert Allan Zeh" wrote:

Or an "interpretation" by the Supreme Court. The equal protection clause
sounds like a clear way to get around the Article II restriction.

Nope. That's not how the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment works.

Well, maybe Ahnold could somehow arrange for Austria to become the 51st
state. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona three years before it became a
state. His status as a "natural born citizen" was recognized
retroactively, although never tested in the courts.

But Arizona WAS a U.S. territory and the citizenship of territorial-born
folks (and not to be cynical or anything - perish the thought! - but
especially for white folks) was never in much question.

--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
Reformed Aerospace Engineer
"Heisenberg might have been here."
~ Anonymous