NEWS - Bush May Announce Return To Moon At Kitty Hawk - Space Daily

h (Rand Simberg) wrote in message . ..
On 30 Oct 2003 14:44:56 -0800, in a place far, far away,
(CL Vancil) made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:

For those who are a bit cynical and remember Bush the Elder's SEI,
remember that things are different now.

First, Bush the Younger is not his dad.
Second, the liberal Democrats don't run Congress.
Third, Sean O'Keefe runs NASA, not Dick Truly.

Also the plan is not a five hundred billion dollar monstersity, but
contemplates a 7-10% annual increase in NASA's budget, which is
doable.

How can you know that? We haven't even seen a plan. If it costs them
thirteen billion to develop an "orbital space plane" I can't wait to
see the price tag for a lunar mission.

Two reasons:

(1) The 7-10% annual increase in NASA's budget will not cover $500
billion, unless we're talking more decades (centuries?) than anyone is
willing to contemplate.

(2) Congress will not fund a $500 billion dollar return to the Moon
program, any more than it was willing to do a $500 billion dollar Moon
and Mars program.

On or about Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:40:25 GMT, Rand Simberg made the sensational claim that:
On 31 Oct 2003 00:29:31 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Jorge R.
Frank" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

But then again, JFK was a Democrat - nope, can't
criticize *him*...

Not just a Democrat, but an Irishman... ;-)

And a catholic at that.
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Rand Simberg wrote:

Pat, you're entering delusion territory now.



We've got a killer cyborg as the governor of a state...and you're saying
_I'm_ getting delusional? Reality is getting more surreal than anything
I could ever come up with...still, it's unfortunate that Jesse Ventura
still isn't the governor of Minnesota; if that were the case, and alien
Predators landed, we would be ready fer 'em.

Pat

Rand Simberg wrote:

Oh, well *that's* a credible source...



His fiction sucks, but he's the best political cynic since H.L. Menckin.
I don't always agree with him, but God- is he fun to read.
Particularly when the hunt for the Hydrox cookies starts...anybody who
realizes that the Oreo is but an inferior knock-off of the Hydrox with
delusions of grandeur is okay in my book.

Pat

Allen Thomson wrote:


Again, I do not claim that DQ did or did not know what relation his
words had to physical reality. But if you analyze the text as
written, it's not a stretch to say that it's pretty much in line
with what a lot of today's planetologists would say, or at least
admit into the space of reasonable discussion.


Try this one on for size- "What a terrible thing to have lost one's
mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is."
Others say the quote was this:
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or to not have a mind is being
wasteful. How true that is."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle winning friends while speaking to the
United Negro College Fund

Whatever, he was no doubt talking to his fellow astronauts; or, to put
it another way:
"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."
--Vice President Dan Quayle
Wouldn't Dubya and him have made a great team? We're talking classic
comedy routines here. It would be a ball watching them try to deliver a
piano up a flight of steps.

Mark Whittington wrote:

(2) Congress will not fund a $500 billion dollar return to the Moon
program, any more than it was willing to do a $500 billion dollar Moon
and Mars program.



Hell, for all we know the "Orbital Space Plane" may end up being a
ballistic capsule.

Pat

LooseChanj wrote:



But then again, JFK was a Democrat - nope, can't
criticize *him*...


Not just a Democrat, but an Irishman... ;-)



And a catholic at that.


But he still got to screw Marilyn Monroe, which is more than any of you
heathens are going to be able to accomplish without violating several
laws of man and nature.

Pat

(ed kyle) wrote

The "KT" nomenclature (not "KT-1", but "KT Light", "KT Medium",
and "KT Heavy", came from an October Aviation Week & Space
Technology article describing the same launcher that Mr. Wade
calls "CZ-5" (Long March 5).

The KT-1 and a heavier prospective KT-2 are solid-fuel booosters
derived from the DF-31 ICBM/IRBM. (KT stands for "Kaituozhe,"
which apparently means "Pioneer" or "Explorer.")

The new big liquids were described in a Chinese IAC paper earlier
this year as belonging to the Long March (CZ) family. Whether
the CZ designation continues to be used is TBD, but it would be
pretty surprising if the KT one were to be adopted.

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...
The thing that's missing from all this is a rational reason to return to
the Moon- it's lifeless


Lifeless? I thought it was where the Fire Women hung out on Saturday nights.
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Pat Flannery wrote:

Rand Simberg wrote:

Pat, you're entering delusion territory now.



We've got a killer cyborg as the governor of a state...

Yes, and he's just been recalled and replaced with an actor.

I'm surprised you didn't mention the killer cyborg junior Senator from
New York.

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