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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 00:28:34 +0100, "OG" wrote:
"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 01:23:35 +0100, "OG" wrote: "Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:29:54 +0100, "OG" wrote: Poor boy! You're not related to eric geese by any change, are you? So what's your explanation then? Explanation of WHAT? You haven't even described a problem yet. You need it spelling out? 1 You seem to argue that the light we see from gas that is moving away from us is coming towards us slower than light from gas that is coming towards us. That's correct. Light moves at c wrt its source and c+v wrt us. 2 You also seem to be saying that Cepheid variability is due to 'faster' light catching up with (and adding to the brightness of) slower light as stars move in binary orbits or expand/contract as Cepheids do. Well the light curves match perfectly...that's alI can produce as evidence.. 3 Doppler shift - speed of emitting gas towards us or away from us changes the wavelength of the light as we receive it. We can measure the motion of the gas because spectral lines are narrow and the wavelength can be measured precisely. According to BaTh, the frequency of arrival of 'wavecrests' varies with incoming light speed. The BaTh doppler equation is virtually the same as those of SR and LET for vc. What is BaTh? If 2 and 3 are true, then the spectral lines from cepheids _should_ show a range of wavelengths representing the whole spread of speeds from the fastest to the slowest at any one time. This range of speeds would be greatest when the fastest was catching up the slowest (at maximum brightness I assume) This is not true. It is apparent that no 'fast light' ever catches the slower light because of extinction. That's convenient - you had better explain 'extinction and why it only affects some light and not all of it For cepheids, a range should be observed because the spherical surface will be expanding at different rates accros the disk. Agreed, but the profile will be modulated as the sine of the cepheid's surface so that majority of the light emitted will be relatively close to the actual surface velocity. The shape of a spectral line is known and explained. 4 However, we do not see broad spectral lines from cepheid variables - hence at any one time the light that we are receiving was all emitted at the same speed relative to us. You WOULD EXPECT to see broadened lines from huff-puff cepheids for the above reason. See the above. If they are narrow, then it backs up the BaTh and the theory that they are really just ordinary stars in orbit.. No because you haven't explained 'extinction' Nor does it explain why different elements have different velocity profiles across the light curve. If you accept 3 and propose 1 to be true, and imply that 2 is a consequence of 1, then observation 4 is a problem for you. Thankyou Og for backing up the BaTh and shooting yourself in the foot. On the contrary - you need to explain yourself So 3 questions What is BaTh ? What is extinction and how precisely does it prevent fast light from catching up slow light? What is your explanation for the variable light curve of cepheids I'm away from fast internet for the next few days so you can take your time over these answers. Why should I bother to answer at all? Einstein's Relativity - the greatest HOAX since jesus christ's mother. |
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