Why are the 'Fixed Stars' so FIXED?

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:01:23 +0100, "OG" wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:40:56 +0100, OG wrote:

Androcles wrote:

Here's a real fluke, look, a huff-puff star just happens to have a
Keplerian
orbit, found from it's velocity curve:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde.../Analemmae.htm

What a strange coincidence, eh?
Perhaps the data was faked to make it look like a Keplerian orbit.

No, you just don't seem to understand that the velocity measured is
nothing to do with movement of the star as a whole for Cepheids.

You don't seem to have the faintest idea of what we're talking about...not
that
Androcles does either.

Whether or not cepheids are really huff-puff stars doesn't matter. We say
their
brightness variations are due to c+v effects caused by their surfaces
moving in
and out..

That seems a very peculiar thing to believe, given that we know that all the
light we see at any time in the cycle has the same speed.

If you haven't anything more constructive to say, go away....you poor
indoctrinated fool....


"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know
him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
--Jonathan Swift.

"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:01:23 +0100, "OG" wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:40:56 +0100, OG wrote:

Androcles wrote:

Here's a real fluke, look, a huff-puff star just happens to have a
Keplerian
orbit, found from it's velocity curve:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde.../Analemmae.htm

What a strange coincidence, eh?
Perhaps the data was faked to make it look like a Keplerian orbit.

No, you just don't seem to understand that the velocity measured is
nothing to do with movement of the star as a whole for Cepheids.

You don't seem to have the faintest idea of what we're talking
about...not
that
Androcles does either.

Whether or not cepheids are really huff-puff stars doesn't matter. We
say
their
brightness variations are due to c+v effects caused by their surfaces
moving in
and out..

That seems a very peculiar thing to believe, given that we know that all
the
light we see at any time in the cycle has the same speed.

If you haven't anything more constructive to say, go away....you poor
indoctrinated fool....

OK, so how am I wrong? We DO know that all the light we see is coming
towards us with the same speed. Spectral lines demonstrate this.

You claim otherwise, justify your claim.

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:04:19 +0100, "OG" wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:01:23 +0100, "OG" wrote:



That seems a very peculiar thing to believe, given that we know that all
the
light we see at any time in the cycle has the same speed.

If you haven't anything more constructive to say, go away....you poor
indoctrinated fool....

OK, so how am I wrong? We DO know that all the light we see is coming
towards us with the same speed. Spectral lines demonstrate this.

Please learn some physics..

You claim otherwise, justify your claim.






"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know
him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
--Jonathan Swift.

"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:04:19 +0100, "OG" wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:01:23 +0100, "OG"
wrote:



That seems a very peculiar thing to believe, given that we know that all
the
light we see at any time in the cycle has the same speed.

If you haven't anything more constructive to say, go away....you poor
indoctrinated fool....

OK, so how am I wrong? We DO know that all the light we see is coming
towards us with the same speed. Spectral lines demonstrate this.

Please learn some physics..


I'm happy for you to tell me what 'you' think.
As I said, justify your claim.

On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "OG" wrote:
"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:04:19 +0100, "OG" wrote:

"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:01:23 +0100, "OG"
wrote:

That seems a very peculiar thing to believe, given that we know that all
the
light we see at any time in the cycle has the same speed.

If you haven't anything more constructive to say, go away....you poor
indoctrinated fool....

OK, so how am I wrong? We DO know that all the light we see is coming
towards us with the same speed. Spectral lines demonstrate this.

Please learn some physics..

I'm happy for you to tell me what 'you' think.
As I said, justify your claim.

Oh what a surprise, HW doesn't respond. Could it be he's wary of
reality?

On 1 Apr 2007 17:08:14 -0700, "OG" wrote:

On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "OG" wrote:
"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:04:19 +0100, "OG" wrote:

"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:01:23 +0100, "OG"
wrote:

That seems a very peculiar thing to believe, given that we know that all
the
light we see at any time in the cycle has the same speed.

If you haven't anything more constructive to say, go away....you poor
indoctrinated fool....

OK, so how am I wrong? We DO know that all the light we see is coming
towards us with the same speed. Spectral lines demonstrate this.

Please learn some physics..

I'm happy for you to tell me what 'you' think.
As I said, justify your claim.

Oh what a surprise, HW doesn't respond. Could it be he's wary of
reality?

Spectral lines don't measure OWLS, idiot.

Einstein's Relativity - the greatest HOAX since jesus christ's mother.

"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
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On 1 Apr 2007 17:08:14 -0700, "OG" wrote:

On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "OG" wrote:
"Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message


If you haven't anything more constructive to say, go away....you
poor
indoctrinated fool....

OK, so how am I wrong? We DO know that all the light we see is coming
towards us with the same speed. Spectral lines demonstrate this.

Please learn some physics..

I'm happy for you to tell me what 'you' think.
As I said, justify your claim.

Oh what a surprise, HW doesn't respond. Could it be he's wary of
reality?

Spectral lines don't measure OWLS, idiot.
Cut the insults if you want to be taken seriously.

Since spectral lines are narrow we know that all the light measured at on
time was given off at the same point in the velocity-time cycle.

If some light coming from a cepheid was travelling faster than the rest (as
you seem to be proposing) we would get broadening of the spectral lines.