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On Mar 15, 12:11 pm, "George Dishman"
wrote: Henry should enter the values from the above paper and get his program to calculate the residuals. Anything else is just handwaving. Now that you have found the reference, he really has no excuse not to. Since the link to Gieren (1985) got truncated, I'll repeat it he http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/c...6A...148..138G Please refer to Figure 3, the composite radial velocity curve. An extremely important point to make, is that most of the scatter evident in this composite curve is -not- due to random measurement error, but rather represents cycle-to-cycle variations in the shape and timing of individual Cepheid pulsations. Random scatter in Gieren's measurements amounted about +/-0.5 km/s, while random measurement error in Duncan's 1908 curves amounted to somewhat over +/- 1 km/s. The scatter evident in the Figure 3 composite curve considerably exceeds anything that can be attributed to measurement error. The photometric measurement technique available around the turn of the last century (measuring the photographic density of deliberately out-of-focus stellar images) was accurate to several hundredths of a magnitude. Because of this high accuracy of measurement, random variation in the cycle-to-cycle timing of Cepheid luminosity curves ("period noise") as well as variations in cycle-to-cycle maxima/minima ("amplitude noise") were well established by the time that Shapley wrote his seminal 1914 article, "On the Nature and Cause of Cepheid Variation". http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1914ApJ....40..448S Prior to 1914, the dominant opinion was that Cepheids were probably a form of binary star, whose variable brightness might be due to such effects as, say, tidal influences. (Indeed, Duncan's 1908 paper dwells at length on the possibility of Cepheid variation being due to an asymmetric rotating layer of absorbing material.) After 1914, it became generally recognized that the binary star hypothesis could not be reconciled with the existence of period noise and amplitude noise in Cepheid luminosity curves, and so the binary star hypothesis was abandoned. As you have pointed out to Henri, a requirement for stable orbits places severe constraints on the the types of variation which could be accommodated in a Cepheid luminosity or radial velocity curve. One cannot just toss in a third body to try to explain period noise. Jerry |
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