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On 20 Feb, 13:47, "PD" wrote:
On Feb 20, 12:21 am, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 19 Feb 2007 19:28:20 -0800, "PD" wrote: On Feb 19, 7:06 pm, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 19 Feb 2007 06:05:07 -0800, "PD" wrote: .... Say, didn't you say you were born with a scientific mind? Don't you recognize this procedure? Hint: It has something to do with the scientific method. Here's the relativists method: 1) Make an assumption. Do not attempt to prove or find evidence for assumption. I suggest Henry should first read the exact wording of Einstein's postulate, then read the conclusion of Sagnac's 1913 paper. George |
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On Feb 20, 8:31 am, "George Dishman" wrote:
On 20 Feb, 13:47, "PD" wrote: On Feb 20, 12:21 am, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 19 Feb 2007 19:28:20 -0800, "PD" wrote: On Feb 19, 7:06 pm, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 19 Feb 2007 06:05:07 -0800, "PD" wrote: ... Say, didn't you say you were born with a scientific mind? Don't you recognize this procedure? Hint: It has something to do with the scientific method. Here's the relativists method: 1) Make an assumption. Do not attempt to prove or find evidence for assumption. I suggest Henry should first read the exact wording of Einstein's postulate, then read the conclusion of Sagnac's 1913 paper. George Namely, this paper: G. Sagnac, Comptes Rendus de l'Academie des Sciences (Paris) 157, pp. 708-710, 1410-1413 (1913) The difficulty for Henri is that, if it isn't freely available on the web, then he's not interested. Henri wants to revolutionize physics, but if it means raising his rear far enough from his chair to pluck out his wallet, then it's not worth it to him. Is it offensive that Henri imagines he *can* revolutionize physics simply by sitting in his chair and musing, with zero investment? Yes, of course. PD |
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On 20 Feb, 14:48, "PD" wrote:
On Feb 20, 8:31 am, "George Dishman" wrote: On 20 Feb, 13:47, "PD" wrote: On Feb 20, 12:21 am, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 19 Feb 2007 19:28:20 -0800, "PD" wrote: On Feb 19, 7:06 pm, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 19 Feb 2007 06:05:07 -0800, "PD" wrote: ... Say, didn't you say you were born with a scientific mind? Don't you recognize this procedure? Hint: It has something to do with the scientific method. Here's the relativists method: 1) Make an assumption. Do not attempt to prove or find evidence for assumption. I suggest Henry should first read the exact wording of Einstein's postulate, then read the conclusion of Sagnac's 1913 paper. George Namely, this paper: G. Sagnac, Comptes Rendus de l'Academie des Sciences (Paris) 157, pp. 708-710, 1410-1413 (1913) The difficulty for Henri is that, if it isn't freely available on the web, then he's not interested. ... It is available on-line in French. I have a copy on my web site but I haven't completed the translation yet. I won't get a chance this week for family reasons. George |
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On 20 Feb 2007 02:18:17 -0800, "George Dishman"
wrote: On 19 Feb, 23:17, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote: On 18 Feb 2007 19:20:31 -0800, "Leonard Kellogg" wrote: Henri Wilson wrote: ... I use symbolic pulses from a star of constant brightness emitted at equi-temporal points around the orbit. These travel at varying c+cos(v) speeds towards a distant obsever. The rate at which they arrive at the observer should then simulate its brightness curve there. So apply that to the pulsar. There is absolutely no point....unless you can provide a reliable curve showing the variation in arrival rate of the pulses over time. Henry, I have already done that several times. In round figures the PRF is 339 Hz and that is varied by +/- 30.5 mHz. The exact numbers are in my previous posts. The velocity curve that would be published is just a sine wave (near zero eccentricity) with an amplitude of c * 0.0305 / 339 = 27983 m/s. That should be the same as my 'brightness curve'. I can't make sense of the curve published by Jacoby et al Also, I cannot adjust the number of pulses I sample per orbit (122 million in this case) without changing the code a bit. I can do it but it will take a little time You don't need to, it is only the frequency ratio that matters. You do need to fix the velocity curve calculation though, I'll explain that in reply to your post giving the details of your current calculation. OK The frequency variation correspondes to a magnitude change of about 0.2. (CMIIW) have look at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/J1909-3744a.jpg Here the magnitude change is 1 (too high) but I included it because it shows how the OBSERVED sine velocity curve corresponds to an orbit with ~0.15 eccentricity with Yaw 90. (periastron furthest from observer). Distance = 4 LY for this mag change. and: http://www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/J1909-3744b.jpg mag change ~0.2 Period = 0.0042 years max velocity=0.0000933c. To obtain curve b, I have to plug in a distance of less than 1 LY....more like 0.7 LYs. This order of 'extinction length' is quite consistent with those I have derived from short period contact binaries. In curve b, the magnitude change is smaller and a sine-like red velocity curve corresponds with an e ~ 0.06, yaw -90. A circular orbit results in a clearly skewed red curve. So my theory says the orbit is NOT circular at all. provide me with a good curve of pulse arrival times and i can probably do what you ask. Already done, repeatedly. George |
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![]() "Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message ... [snip] http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...WilsonFake.JPG This message is for *your* personal safety, brought to *you* by Dumbledore, the computer of Androcles, having passed my Turing Test using Uncle Phuckwit for a guinea pig. How is my driving? Call 1-800-555-1234 http://www.carmagneticsigns.co.uk/im...l/P_Plates.jpg Worn with pride. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-plate |
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![]() "Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message ... [snip] http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...WilsonFake.JPG This message is for *your* personal safety, brought to *you* by Dumbledore, the computer of Androcles, having passed my Turing Test using Uncle Phuckwit for a guinea pig. How is my driving? Call 1-800-555-1234 http://www.carmagneticsigns.co.uk/im...l/P_Plates.jpg Worn with pride. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-plate |
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![]() "Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message ... [snip] http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...WilsonFake.JPG This message is for *your* personal safety, brought to *you* by Dumbledore, the computer of Androcles, having passed my Turing Test using Uncle Phuckwit for a guinea pig. How is my driving? Call 1-800-555-1234 http://www.carmagneticsigns.co.uk/im...l/P_Plates.jpg Worn with pride. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-plate |
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![]() "Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message ... [snip] http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...WilsonFake.JPG This message is for *your* personal safety, brought to *you* by Dumbledore, the computer of Androcles, having passed my Turing Test using Uncle Phuckwit for a guinea pig. How is my driving? Call 1-800-555-1234 http://www.carmagneticsigns.co.uk/im...l/P_Plates.jpg Worn with pride. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-plate |
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![]() "Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message news ![]() message is for *your* personal safety, brought to *you* by Dumbledore, the computer of Androcles, having passed my Turing Test using Uncle Phuckwit for a guinea pig. How is my driving? Call 1-800-555-1234 http://www.carmagneticsigns.co.uk/im...l/P_Plates.jpg Worn with pride. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-plate |
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