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"Charleston" wrote:
"Scott M. Kozel" wrote: So you say that a government employee was working on a national holiday? He he! No, that is an asssumption on your part. I was just commenting on the JTM claim that the man wrote the letter on July 4th 2003. The webpage said "Current as of June 1999" and his bio indicated that he was working at the Pentagton for the U.S. Air Force. Is he still working there? By the way, is this the A. Ernest Fitzgerald that you are referring to -- http://www.af.mil/bios/bio_5423.shtml -- ?? Yes, that is the man. He is extremely well respected in Washington D.C. as having uncompromising values and impeccable credentials. He was actually fired by then President Richard Nixon for blowing the whistle on the C-5 Galaxy project. Mr. Fitzgerald took the President to court for ordering his termination. When he lost in Federal court on appeal (IIRC), his lawyers abandoned him. He went on to win his case when of all things, drum roll please, President Nixon audiotaped the conversation ordering Mr. Fitzgerald's termination. Well Fitzgerald ultimately got the tape and the President then lost and had to pay Fitzgerald somewhere around $140,000, which was a lot back then. His bio indicates that he worked 1965-1970 and 1973-present(at least 1999) for the U.S. Air Force. He is above reproach, and it does not surprise me that he would ask for a one page account of John Maxson's explanation of the Challenger accident, especially in the middle of the current Space Shuttle Columbia saga. Few Senators or Congressmen will read more than one page of such a report and it is my guess that a Senator will read the summary posted on this thread. That was what I was trying to ascertain, what was the context of the alleged missive that JTM has posted over and over. Your explanation above says that Fitzgerald merely cataloged the JTM explanation of 51-L, without necessarily agreeing with any of it. That makes perfect sense to me. His book about his own involvement in fraud against the government is called "The High Priests of Waste", a direct referral to the almost cult-like religion that is practiced by some contractors in bilking the U.S. taxpayers out of a whole lot of money. Thanks for the explanation! .. |
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In sci.space.policy John Maxson wrote:
Since Jon Berndt insists on libeling and defaming me: What Idon't understand is why you had to *yet again* post that onepager. WHY? And it not only is not a relevant answer to his mail, it sort of proves his point. -- Sander +++ Out of cheese error +++ |
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Sander Vesik wrote in message
... What Idon't understand is why you had to *yet again* post that onepager. WHY? Well, if you lived in this country, I'd have to say that you seem to be a slow learner like Berndt. However, I remember that you or those you know have been visiting my website for quite some time, long before Columbia's loss. I also recall that you or your group is involved in education. Therefore I will try to explain to you a little bit about our political and educational systems. Our political systems inundate their opponents and their electorates redundantly with propaganda, in hopes that the party spending the most money in that manner will win. So we fight fire with fire. Our educational systems teach that in order to reach slow learners, redundancy should be employed. Here I'm both trying to reach slow learners and combat the ills of our corrupt political systems. Thanks for listening. -- John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace) Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com) |
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Paul Maxson wrote:
OM wrote: ...Oh, bite me Maxson. We know it's you or one of your ******* kids. Who is "we" Bob? Everyone who is part of the "we" above please say Aye. *I* know it isn't you, Max. And it isn't your father and it isn't your brother. And if no one here is willing to look a little more carefully, there will never be an end to this plague on sci.space. rl |
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Paul Maxson said:
The Human O-Ring is a breeding ground for libel. OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message ... ...Oh, bite me Maxson. Thanks, OM. All this group needed was an excuse to get Paul Maxson posting here again. Haven't you yet learned that he behaves non- lineally to anything he considers libel? Or do you just enjoy taunting the handicapped? -- Kevin Willoughby lid We'd spend the remaining time trying to fix the engine. -- Neil Armstrong |
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"Paul Maxson" wrote in message
news:%C%Pa.46691$N7.6060@sccrnsc03... Who is "we" Bob? Everyone who is part of the "we" above please say Aye. Geez, Paul. Just ignore OM. It's just not worth it. |
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"Scott M. Kozel" wrote in message
... Irresistible force meets immovable object... Yes, well, killfiling John isn't enough to make me not have to hear him, so into the killfile *you* go. |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:42:12 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
wrote: *I* know it isn't you, Max. And it isn't your father and it isn't your brother. ....Who cares? All the Maxson trash are in killfile hell where their lying asses belong. Let'em threaten to sue me all they want. Can't sue if they don't have a legal leg to stand on, especially after all the crap Paul pulled two years ago. The whole *family* has such a ****ed track record that no court in the land would side with them, no matter how many kangaroos are on the jury or behind the bench. ....So go **** yourself, Paul. And the father who rode in on you. You're not worth my time or effort, and the sooner your entire dessicated family shrub drops dead the better off usenet and the world as a whole will be. You may have fooled Rhonda with your "poor little abused me!" act, but the rest of us - yes, *us*, you pedantic misanthropic excuse for a "hire-a-cop" - don't believe a single ****ing word of it. Not. One. Iota. Period. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:29:03 -0500, "Jon Berndt"
wrote: john thomas maxson will never, never give up. He's a very sick individual. He simply has too much invested to ever see the light, or admit he's wrong. This ceased to be a two way discussion long ago. The arguments he uses are simply a joke, he ignores evidence he doesn't like, he hijacks the reputations of experts who prematurely made snap interpretations when prodded by the media on 1/28/85 - experts even make mistakes. john maxson has little understanding of the laws of physics - you guys KNOW all this. His book is a complete tour de farce of hand waving bull****. I have to heartily agree with Mike on the plonk approach. john maxson has got his mind (what remains of it) made up. ....Which is why this evening I put Scott Kozel in killfile hell for 30 days in hopes that by the end of that period he will have gotten the message and done the same to all of the Maxson inbreds on a more permanent basis. Sorry, Scott, but enough is enough. See you in 30... OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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"Charleston" wrote in message
news:ZD6Qa.7719$zy.7283@fed1read06... Kevin your post seems to suggest that OM's behavior as disgusting as it has been lately is acceptable while Paul's behavior though commendable in its restraint and civil tone is unacceptable. *shrug* I think OM's behavior is pretty bad too. Then again, except when I'm subjected to threads relatively wildly crosposted into .history, I don't have to read anything by him. |
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