We need to Bomb somebody!

In article . com,
"Ed Kyle" wrote:

jonathan wrote:
No, they think this way. They worship the tactic of using as a 'force
multiplier'
or terrorist weapon, the random attack against innocent civilians.
The biggest bang for the buck ever invented, and quickest way to destroy
a society. So that they can inherit the rubble and enslave
who is left alive.

They have come nowhere near "destroying" our society, or even
putting a dent into it really. 9/11 was bad, but "our society" has
moved on and has even released two major motion pictures this
year about 9/11! "Our society" has prospered just fine since
2001, although it would have done far better without the pointless
Iraqi diversion.

On the other hand, the terrorist attacks (and other hints at same) have
put into power, and kept in power, the most authoritarian government the
U.S. has ever seen [1]. Police states always begin by frightening the
populace into thinking they need a "strong" government to protect them.
One can hardly find a better example of people supporting the trampling
of their own personal freedoms and those of others, in the name of
"national security." (Unless, dare I say it, one thinks back to Germany
in the 1930s.)

So while the terrorist attacks cannot destroy our society, they may well
(indirectly) destroy our democratic system.

Best,
- Joe

[1] See for example _Worse_than_Watergate_ by John W. Dean,
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=1-031600023x-3.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:39:23 -0600, in a place far, far away, Joe
Strout made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

They have come nowhere near "destroying" our society, or even
putting a dent into it really. 9/11 was bad, but "our society" has
moved on and has even released two major motion pictures this
year about 9/11! "Our society" has prospered just fine since
2001, although it would have done far better without the pointless
Iraqi diversion.

On the other hand, the terrorist attacks (and other hints at same) have
put into power, and kept in power, the most authoritarian government the
U.S. has ever seen [1].

Oh, please.

Read a little history. Particularly on the Civil War.

Joe Strout wrote:

On the other hand, the terrorist attacks (and other hints at same) have
put into power, and kept in power, the most authoritarian government the
U.S. has ever seen...

Maybe, maybe not. But the end of this particular regime (the
Congressional part of it) will come soon enough. The election
is only three months away, and Americans of both parties
can't wait to punish those responsible for the Iraq fiasco.
They voted the first one out in Connecticut this week.

- Ed Kyle

On 11 Aug 2006 12:45:02 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Ed Kyle"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

Joe Strout wrote:

On the other hand, the terrorist attacks (and other hints at same) have
put into power, and kept in power, the most authoritarian government the
U.S. has ever seen...

Maybe, maybe not. But the end of this particular regime (the
Congressional part of it) will come soon enough. The election
is only three months away, and Americans of both parties
can't wait to punish those responsible for the Iraq fiasco.
They voted the first one out in Connecticut this week.

laughing

Those were rabid Democrats in a primary, not the American people. And
half of the Democrats voted for the pro-Bush candidate. Do you really
fantasize that Lamont is going to win the Senate seat? I predict that
Joe Lieberman will not be "voted out." He was simply voted out as a
Democrat, a party that seems to be trying to return to the good old
days of George McGovern. Good for him.

In article .com,
"Ed Kyle" wrote:

On the other hand, the terrorist attacks (and other hints at same) have
put into power, and kept in power, the most authoritarian government the
U.S. has ever seen...

Maybe, maybe not. But the end of this particular regime (the
Congressional part of it) will come soon enough. The election
is only three months away, and Americans of both parties
can't wait to punish those responsible for the Iraq fiasco.
They voted the first one out in Connecticut this week.

Yes, it's entirely possible we'll weather this spell and come out just
fine -- possibly even the stronger for it. There is definite resistance
(though mostly unsuccessful, so far) to the executive branch's power
grabs; maybe after the elections, some real checks & balances will be
restored.

Ed Kyle wrote:

Maybe, maybe not. But the end of this particular regime (the
Congressional part of it) will come soon enough. The election
is only three months away, and Americans of both parties
can't wait to punish those responsible for the Iraq fiasco.
They voted the first one out in Connecticut this week.



Unless of course there is a national emergency of some sort that means
those elections have to be put off for a while... say crazed Islamic
fascists set fire to the Senate and House, and martial law had to be
declared.
You know what would have to happen then, don't you? All of America's
Muslims would have to be resettled to the east. ;-)

Pat