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Old July 25th 06, 11:47 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:43:16 -0500, Pat Flannery
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North Korea made a Godzilla-type movie:
http://www.stomptokyo.com/scott/yong...pulgasari.html


....Pat, that was the Kim Il Sung biopic, remember?

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Old July 25th 06, 11:57 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Pat Flannery wrote:

How though, exactly? If you go walking around in it you'll hurt the
model,


Why do you think that? Probably made out of concrete. The scale is
interesting: a 5000 foot peak works out at 10 foot high on the ground,
so lots of fun scrambling around...

I can think of one possible use, but it's fairly way-out: With padded


I think it's simply a terrain model for military commanders to work
out their battle plans. Same as people have been doing for thousands
of years.
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Old July 26th 06, 01:55 AM posted to sci.space.history
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they built it to obfuscate Osama's location


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Old July 26th 06, 01:57 AM posted to sci.space.history
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or its a training range for nap of the earth flyers of all
ilks - from cruise missile to terrified meat pilot



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Old July 26th 06, 07:52 AM posted to sci.space.history
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OK, the "what" seems to be that this is a subscale representation of
the Aksai Chin region. The long east-west lake in the middle is
Pangong Lake, real-world coordinates 33.75 N , 79.09 E .

See

http://www.cifjkindia.org/legal_docs...docs_007.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aksai_Chin .

Now as to the "why", one can only speculate...



Until other evidence is presented I'll stick with training system for
reconsat photo interpreters.
The model would give the ability to see what ground troop deployments
would look like from a reconsat in a cheap and convenient way by being
photographed from above with tiny models representing the troops and
equipment.
On the other hand we could be meeting with Chinese Zen cunning...by
building a huge model of a disputed area on the Chinese/Indian border
outdoors where a reconsat is bound to see it, the Chinese may be
attempting to screw with India's mind in regard to military operations
in that area. ;-)

Pat
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Old July 26th 06, 08:37 AM posted to sci.space.history
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OM wrote:



North Korea made a Godzilla-type movie:
http://www.stomptokyo.com/scott/yong...pulgasari.html



...Pat, that was the Kim Il Sung biopic, remember?



Actually, that's a pretty neat plot concept they have there.

Pat
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Old July 26th 06, 08:52 AM posted to sci.space.history
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Mary Pegg wrote:

Why do you think that? Probably made out of concrete. The scale is
interesting: a 5000 foot peak works out at 10 foot high on the ground,
so lots of fun scrambling around...


Yeah but there's no particular reason to make it that big, if you want
to train troops, the best size would be something around twenty feet on
a side so you could indicate details from the side with a pointer stick.
Also, can you imagine what walking on it would be like? Assuming the
vertical scale is in proportion to the horizontal, your trainees would
be constantly tripping over one mountain, and caving their heads in on
another one around half a scale mile away. ;-)



I can think of one possible use, but it's fairly way-out: With padded



I think it's simply a terrain model for military commanders to work
out their battle plans. Same as people have been doing for thousands
of years.



On far, far smaller models...you know, something you can put indoors.
I find the fact that it's outdoors very interesting; not only does this
mean that you have to make it weatherproof, but it means that the sun
will strike it during the day in the same way that it would strike the
actual terrain, with all the same lighting effects.
I haven't checked, but is this model at the same latitude as the area it
portrays? If that's the case, then it's almost certainly used in some
way that involves different illumination levels and shadow geometries
from the sun in the same way the actual terrain does.

Pat
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Old July 26th 06, 09:55 AM posted to sci.space.history
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:52:34 -0500, Pat Flannery
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I haven't checked, but is this model at the same latitude as the area it
portrays? If that's the case, then it's almost certainly used in some
way that involves different illumination levels and shadow geometries
from the sun in the same way the actual terrain does.


....I can see it now:

"Honorable pilot, you have crashed the simulator. You have damaged the
model we painstakingly carved from the land itself. Kim Il Jong has
personally ordered you to be executed for your treason!"

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Old July 26th 06, 11:18 AM posted to sci.space.history
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OM wrote:

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from the sun in the same way the actual terrain does.


...I can see it now:

"Honorable pilot, you have crashed the simulator. You have damaged the
model we painstakingly carved from the land itself. Kim Il Jong has
personally ordered you to be executed for your treason!"



It's Chinese...you know, made out of dried egg noodles.
In North Korea it would have been made out of ground human bone.

Pat
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Old July 26th 06, 05:54 PM posted to sci.space.history
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"Mary Pegg" wrote in message
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Pat Flannery wrote:

How though, exactly? If you go walking around in it you'll hurt the
model,


Why do you think that? Probably made out of concrete. The scale is
interesting: a 5000 foot peak works out at 10 foot high on the ground,
so lots of fun scrambling around...

I can think of one possible use, but it's fairly way-out: With padded


I think it's simply a terrain model for military commanders to work
out their battle plans. Same as people have been doing for thousands
of years.


I can't imagine that they wouldn't use computers for it though...


 




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