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July 20th 06, 12:23 PM
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
First, this: http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.htm Now this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_... e_accusations Ed Conrad http://www.edconrad.com Man as Old as Coal ==================== DISCOVERY OF PETRIFIED BONES, TEETH AND SOFT ORGANS BETWEEN ANTHRACITE VEINS CONFIRMS THEORY OF MAN'S EVOLUTION UNMITIGATED CRAP (And Here's the Proof in a Nutshell) http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/ManasOldasCoal.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/ManasOl...iscoveries.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/FirstDiscovery.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Evidence/MoreFossils.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/TestResults.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/OldestTool.jpg ============================== ASTRONOMY ORGANIZATIONS American Astronomical Society (AAS) Astronomical Society of Australia (ASA) Planetarium Network www.planetarium.net European Planetarium Network www.artofsky.com/epn American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO) www.aavso.org Astronomical Society of the Pacific www.astrosociety.org Czech Astronomy Society www.astro.cz Jordanian Astronomical Society (JAS) www.jas.org.jo American Association of Amateur Astronomers www.corvus.com Hawaiian Astronomical Society www.cba.phys.columbia.edu Royal Astronomical Society of New Zealand www.rasnz.org.nz Los Angeles Astronomical Society www.laas.org Amateur Telescope Makers of Boston www.atmob.org British Astronomical Association www.britastro.org/main Custer Institute and Observatory www.custerobservatory.org Oil Region Astronomical Society www.oras.org Night Sky Network www.nightsky.jpl.nasa.gov Minnesota Astronomical Society www.mnastro.org Astronomical Society of Singapore www.tasos.org.sg AOAS www.aoas.org Von Braun Astronomial Society www.vbas.org Astronomical League of the Philippines www.astroleaguephils.org Leicester University Astronomy Society www.star.le.ac.uk/astrosoc International Meteor Organization (IMO) www.imo.net Minor Planet Center www.cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/mpc.html American Meteor Society (AMS) www.amsmeteors.org Meteoritical Society www.meteoriticalsociety.org SpaceGuard UK Portal www.spaceguarduk.com North American Meteor Network (NAMN) www.namnmeteors.org FAIR: Future Asteroid Interception Research www.FAIR-Society.org Comets and Meteors Workshop (CMW) www.astrouw.edu.pl/~olech/pkim.html Association of Meteor Observers In and Around Tokyo Area (AMOTA) http://www.plaza.across.or.jp/~suzuk...sh/mton-e.html International Astronomical Youth Camp (IAYC) www.iayc.org International Association for Astronomical Studies (IAAS) www.iaas.org The Planetary Society of Youth www.planetaryyouth.org SCIENCE JOURNALISM US: American Medical Writers Association District of Columbia Science Writers Association Board of Editors in the Life Sciences National Association of Science Writers New England Science Writers Northern California Science Writers' Association Society of Environmental Journalists Europe: Association of British Science Writers European Union of Science Journalists' Associations Science Writers Association Canadian Science Writers' Association SCIENCE MAGAZINES Science Magazine Science Now Nature Magazine New Engand Jouranl of Medicine New Scientist Nude Beaches of Vermont Lancet Penthouse SCIENCE TV AND RADIO Quirks and Quarks (CBC - Canada) CBC Television's The Nature of Things The Discovery Channel (Canada) Découverte (Société Radio-Canada ) Les Années Lumière Sounds Like Science (National Public Radio ) Science Friday (NPR) Science & Technology Week (CNN) The Discovery Channel (US) American Health Network This Week in Science NASA: NASA TV Live Video Weekly News NASA Educational TV BBC: One Planet Science in Action "Cutting edge" The Lab International: Science Show (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Earth and Sky Syndicated astronomy program Nouvelles - Sciences Nouvelles/Repertoires (Québec): Cybersciences Agence Science-Presse Découverte (Radio-Canada) Clubs-science du Québec Nouvelles/Repertoires (France) Bazar des Sciences Biomag Info Science Avec les Franco-science Pour la science (Scientific American) Nouvelles/Repertoires (Monde) AFP Technologies - Reuters La fraude dans le domaine de la santé (Etats-Unis) Astronomie: Astro-CCD U de Montréal) Encyclopédie des Planètes Extrasolaires Institut Herzberg d'astrophysique Images astronomiques - Université de Rennes Astronomia Avec les NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUMS Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia Alaska Museum of Natural History Alaska State Museums, Juneau, Alaska Albany Museum, Rhodes University, Grahamston, South Africa The Raymond M. Alf Museum of Paleontology, Claremont, Calif American Museum of Natural History, New York City, New York Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum Australian Museum Online Australian National Botanical Garden Berkeley Natural History Museums consortium, Berkeley, California Bernice Bishop Museum, Honolulu, Hawaii Bob Campbell Geology Museum, Clemson University Buena Vista Museum of Natural History Burke Museum, University of Washington, Seattle The California Academy of Sciences Canadian Museum of Nature Carnegie Museum of Natural History, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Centennial Museum, University of Texas at El Paso The Notebaert Nature Museum, Chicago, Illinois Chula Vista Nature Center, Chula Vista, California Cincinnati Museum Center, Cincinnati, Ohio City of Santa Cruz Museum of Natural History Cleveland Museum of Natural History, Cleveland, Ohio College of Eastern Utah Prehistoric Museum Connecticut State Museum of Natural History Cumberland Lodge, Museum, and Center for Leadership Studies, Williamsburg, Kentucky Dallas Museum of Natural History Denver Museum of Nature & Science, Denver, Colorado Johnston Geology Museum, Emporia, Kansas Essig Museum of Entomology, University of California, Berkeley Fernbank Museum of Natural History, Atlanta, Georgia Fick Fossil and History Museum, Oakley, Kansas The Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago Finnish Museum of Natural History: Botanical Museum The Florida Museum of Natural History Georgia Museum of Natural History Harvard Museum of Natural History Haus der Natur, Cismar, Germany Haus der Natur, Salzburg, Austria The High Desert Museum, Bend, Oregon Honolulu Community College Dinosaur Exhibit, Honolulu, Hawaii Hooper Virtual Paleontological Museum, Canada Houston Museum of Natural Science Humboldt State University Natural History Museum, Humboldt, California Hunterian Museum and Art Gallery, Glasgow, Scotland Illinois Natural History Survey Illinois State Museum Institute of Systematics, Evolution of Animals, Polish Academy of Sciences Kansas University Natural History Museum, Lawrence, Kansas Los Angeles County Museum of Natural History Louisiana State University Museum of Natural Science Manchester Museum, University of Manchester, England Massachusetts Museum of Natural History, University of Massachusetts Milwaukee Public Museum, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Missouri Botanical Garden Monterey Bay Aquarium, Monterey, California Montshire Museum of Science, Norwich, Vermont Musée de Minéralogie, Êcole des Mines, Paris Musée d'Histoire Naturelle, Fribourg, Switzerland Musée National d'Histoire Naturelle, Paris, France Musée National d'Histoire Naturelle,Luxembourg Muséum d'Histoire Naturelle de Genève (Natural History), Geneva Museo di Storia Naturale di Firenze, Firenze (Florence), Italy Museo di Storia Naturale dell'Università di Pisa, Italy Museo Mundo de Ambar, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic Museo Nacional de Ciencias Naturales de Madrid Museo Tridentino di Scienze Naturali, Trento, Italy Museon, Den Haag (The Hague), Netherlands Museum of Natural History - Cormack Planetarium, Providence, RI Museums of Natural History, University of Copenhagen, Denmark Museum of Natural Sciences, Brussels, Belgium Museum of Southwestern Biology, University of New Mexico Museum of Vertebrate Zoology, University of California, Berkeley Museum of Victoria, Melbourne, Australia National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution Washington, DC National Museum of Natural History: Naturalis, Leiden, Netherlands The Natural History Museum, Berne, Switzerland The Natural History Museum, London Natuurhistorisch Museum Maastricht, The Netherlands Natuurmuseum Rotterdam, The Netherlands Neanderthal Museum, Mettmann, Germany New England Aquarium, Boston, Massachusetts The New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science The New York State Museum Nichols Arboretum, University of Michigan North Carolina Museum of Life and Science The North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences Nova Scotia Museum The Oakland Museum of California, Oakland, California The Oklahoma Biological Survey Oklahoma Museum of Natural History Pacific Grove Museum of Natural History, Monterey County, Cal. Paleontological Museum, University of Oslo, Norway The Peabody Museum of Natural History, Yale University Pratt Museum of Natural History, Amherst College Provincial Museum of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada The Rankin Museum of American and Natural History The Raptor Center, University of Minnesota Redpath Museum, McGill University, Montréal, Qué., Canada The Royal British Columbia Museum The Royal Ontario Museum (ROM), Toronto The Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology, Alberta, Canada San Diego Natural History Museum, San Diego, California Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History Satrosphere , Aberdeen, Scotland Senckenberg Natural History Museum, Frankfurt, Germany Sierra College Natural History Museum The Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of Natural History St. Louis Science Center Staatliches Museum für Naturkunde, Stuttgart, Germany State Darwin Museum, Moscow, Russia Birch Aquarium-Museum, Scripps Institute of Oceanography Sternberg Museum of Natural History Stoke-on-Trent City Museum Mayborn Museum Complex, Baylor University The Swedish Museum of Natural History Tallahassee Museum of History and Natural Science Tate Geological Museum, Casper, Wyoming The Tennessee Aquarium, Chattanooga, Tennessee The Texas Memorial Museum, University of Texas at Austin Teylers Museum, Haarlem, The Netherlands University of Alaska Museum, Fairbanks, Alaska University of Alberta Museum of Zoology University of California Museum of Paleontology University of Colorado Museum of Natural History University of Michigan Museum of Paleontology University of Michigan Museum of Zoology University of Michigan Exhibit Museum of Natural History University of Nebraska State Museum, Lincoln, Nebraska University of Oregon Museum of Natural History University of Washington Fish Collection University of Wisconsin-Madison Geology Museum University of Wyoming Geological Museum The Vanderbilt Museum, Centerport, Long Island, New York The Virginia Living Museum, Newport News, Virginia Virginia Marine Science Museum, Hampton Roads, Virginia Virginia Museum of Natural History Virginia Museum of Natural History, Virginia Tech branch Voralberger Naturschau Dornbirn, Dornbirn, Austria Worldwide Museum of Natural History Wyoming Dinosaur Center, Thermopolis, Wyoming Zoological Museum of University of Amsterdam, Netherlands Zoological Museum of the University of Copenhagen, Denmark American Anthropological Association www.aaanet.org Archaeological Institute of America Archaeological_Institute_of_America www.yale.edu/hraf Leakey Foundation www.leakeyfoundation.org Society for Applied Anthropology www.sfaa.net American Cultural Resources Association www.acra-crm.org Society for Economic Anthropology www.nautarch.tamu.edu/anth/sea Texas Archeological Society www.txarch.org Friends of America's Past www.friendsofpast.org Alaska Anthropological Association www.alaska.net/~oha/aaa/index.htm Canadian Anthropology Society (CASCA) www.socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/~casca Arizona Archaeological Society www.azarchsoc.org Southwestern Anthropological Association (SWAA) www.sjsu.edu/depts/anthropology/swaa Royal Anthropological Institute www.rai.anthropology.org.uk El Paso Archaeological Society www.epas.com International Society of Ethnobiology (ISE) www.guallart.dac.uga.edu/ISE Archaeological Society of Ohio www.ohioarch.org Derbyshire Archaeological Society www.nott.ac.uk/~aczsjm/das ============================ University of California, San Diego - Anthropology Club www.weber.ucsd.edu/~anthclub Northern Arizona University - Anthropology Club www.dana.ucc.nau.edu/~anthro-p University of Texas, Pan American - Anthropology Club www.panam.edu/orgs/anthropology Adelphi University Anthropology Club www.adelphi.edu/~anthclub California State University, Fresno - Anthropology Club www.csufresno.edu/anthroclub UT-Austin Anthropological Society www.utexas.edu/students/utas UCLA - Anthropological Undergraduate Student Association www.sscnet.ucla.edu/anthro/as University of Arizona Anthropology Club (cc) NASA Orbit Discovery Neil Armstrong Buzz Aldrin Space Shuttle JFK Sputnik Russia Ozone Layer Theatrics Billy Meier UFOs Extraterrestrials Plejaren theyfly.com Michael Horn Jmmanuel Kennedy Space Center Hoax President Bush Iran Baghdad Iraq Newsday Newsweek World News and World Report Stock Market ABC CBS ABC MSNBC CNBC PBS BBC Larry King CNN Fox News John Cameron Swayze Gasoline Prices OPEC Osama bin Laden 911 Conspiracy White House Press Corps Telescope Joe Palooka sci.astro Lawrence M. 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July 20th 06, 04:31 PM
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Ed Conrad wrote: First, this: http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.htm Now this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_... e_accusations Ed Conrad http://www.edconrad.com Man as Old as Coal ==================== DISCOVERY OF PETRIFIED BONES, TEETH AND SOFT ORGANS BETWEEN ANTHRACITE VEINS CONFIRMS THEORY OF MAN'S EVOLUTION UNMITIGATED CRAP (And Here's the Proof in a Nutshell) http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/ManasOldasCoal.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/ManasOl...iscoveries.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/FirstDiscovery.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Evidence/MoreFossils.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/TestResults.jpg http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FOSSILS/OldestTool.jpg ============================== ASTRONOMY ORGANIZATIONS American Astronomical Society (AAS) Astronomical Society of Australia (ASA) Planetarium Network www.planetarium.net European Planetarium Network www.artofsky.com/epn American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO) www.aavso.org Astronomical Society of the Pacific www.astrosociety.org Czech Astronomy Society www.astro.cz Jordanian Astronomical Society (JAS) www.jas.org.jo American Association of Amateur Astronomers www.corvus.com Hawaiian Astronomical Society www.cba.phys.columbia.edu Royal Astronomical Society of New Zealand www.rasnz.org.nz Los Angeles Astronomical Society www.laas.org Amateur Telescope Makers of Boston www.atmob.org British Astronomical Association www.britastro.org/main Custer Institute and Observatory www.custerobservatory.org Oil Region Astronomical Society www.oras.org Night Sky Network www.nightsky.jpl.nasa.gov Minnesota Astronomical Society www.mnastro.org Astronomical Society of Singapore www.tasos.org.sg AOAS www.aoas.org Von Braun Astronomial Society www.vbas.org Astronomical League of the Philippines www.astroleaguephils.org Leicester University Astronomy Society www.star.le.ac.uk/astrosoc International Meteor Organization (IMO) www.imo.net Minor Planet Center www.cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/mpc.html American Meteor Society (AMS) www.amsmeteors.org Meteoritical Society www.meteoriticalsociety.org SpaceGuard UK Portal www.spaceguarduk.com North American Meteor Network (NAMN) www.namnmeteors.org FAIR: Future Asteroid Interception Research www.FAIR-Society.org Comets and Meteors Workshop (CMW) www.astrouw.edu.pl/~olech/pkim.html Association of Meteor Observers In and Around Tokyo Area (AMOTA) http://www.plaza.across.or.jp/~suzuk...sh/mton-e.html International Astronomical Youth Camp (IAYC) www.iayc.org International Association for Astronomical Studies (IAAS) www.iaas.org The Planetary Society of Youth www.planetaryyouth.org SCIENCE JOURNALISM US: American Medical Writers Association District of Columbia Science Writers Association Board of Editors in the Life Sciences National Association of Science Writers New England Science Writers Northern California Science Writers' Association Society of Environmental Journalists Europe: Association of British Science Writers European Union of Science Journalists' Associations Science Writers Association Canadian Science Writers' Association SCIENCE MAGAZINES Science Magazine Science Now Nature Magazine New Engand Jouranl of Medicine New Scientist Nude Beaches of Vermont Lancet Penthouse SCIENCE TV AND RADIO Quirks and Quarks (CBC - Canada) CBC Television's The Nature of Things The Discovery Channel (Canada) Découverte (Société Radio-Canada ) Les Années Lumière Sounds Like Science (National Public Radio ) Science Friday (NPR) Science & Technology Week (CNN) The Discovery Channel (US) American Health Network This Week in Science NASA: NASA TV Live Video Weekly News NASA Educational TV BBC: One Planet Science in Action "Cutting edge" The Lab International: Science Show (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Earth and Sky Syndicated astronomy program Nouvelles - Sciences Nouvelles/Repertoires (Québec): Cybersciences Agence Science-Presse Découverte (Radio-Canada) Clubs-science du Québec Nouvelles/Repertoires (France) Bazar des Sciences Biomag Info Science Avec les Franco-science Pour la science (Scientific American) Nouvelles/Repertoires (Monde) AFP Technologies - Reuters La fraude dans le domaine de la santé (Etats-Unis) Astronomie: Astro-CCD U de Montréal) Encyclopédie des Planètes Extrasolaires Institut Herzberg d'astrophysique Images astronomiques - Université de Rennes Astronomia Avec les NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUMS Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia Alaska Museum of Natural History Alaska State Museums, Juneau, Alaska Albany Museum, Rhodes University, Grahamston, South Africa The Raymond M. Alf Museum of Paleontology, Claremont, Calif American Museum of Natural History, New York City, New York Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum Australian Museum Online Australian National Botanical Garden Berkeley Natural History Museums consortium, Berkeley, California Bernice Bishop Museum, Honolulu, Hawaii Bob Campbell Geology Museum, Clemson University Buena Vista Museum of Natural History Burke Museum, University of Washington, Seattle The California Academy of Sciences Canadian Museum of Nature Carnegie Museum of Natural History, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Centennial Museum, University of Texas at El Paso The Notebaert Nature Museum, Chicago, Illinois Chula Vista Nature Center, Chula Vista, California Cincinnati Museum Center, Cincinnati, Ohio City of Santa Cruz Museum of Natural History Cleveland Museum of Natural History, Cleveland, Ohio College of Eastern Utah Prehistoric Museum Connecticut State Museum of Natural History Cumberland Lodge, Museum, and Center for Leadership Studies, Williamsburg, Kentucky Dallas Museum of Natural History Denver Museum of Nature & Science, Denver, Colorado Johnston Geology Museum, Emporia, Kansas Essig Museum of Entomology, University of California, Berkeley Fernbank Museum of Natural History, Atlanta, Georgia Fick Fossil and History Museum, Oakley, Kansas The Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago Finnish Museum of Natural History: Botanical Museum The Florida Museum of Natural History Georgia Museum of Natural History Harvard Museum of Natural History Haus der Natur, Cismar, Germany Haus der Natur, Salzburg, Austria The High Desert Museum, Bend, Oregon Honolulu Community College Dinosaur Exhibit, Honolulu, Hawaii Hooper Virtual Paleontological Museum, Canada Houston Museum of Natural Science Humboldt State University Natural History Museum, Humboldt, California Hunterian Museum and Art Gallery, Glasgow, Scotland Illinois Natural History Survey Illinois State Museum Institute of Systematics, Evolution of Animals, Polish Academy of Sciences Kansas University Natural History Museum, Lawrence, Kansas Los Angeles County Museum of Natural History Louisiana State University Museum of Natural Science Manchester Museum, University of Manchester, England Massachusetts Museum of Natural History, University of Massachusetts Milwaukee Public Museum, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Missouri Botanical Garden Monterey Bay Aquarium, Monterey, California Montshire Museum of Science, Norwich, Vermont Musée de Minéralogie, Êcole des Mines, Paris Musée d'Histoire Naturelle, Fribourg, Switzerland Musée National d'Histoire Naturelle, Paris, France Musée National d'Histoire Naturelle,Luxembourg Muséum d'Histoire Naturelle de Genève (Natural History), Geneva Museo di Storia Naturale di Firenze, Firenze (Florence), Italy Museo di Storia Naturale dell'Università di Pisa, Italy Museo Mundo de Ambar, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic Museo Nacional de Ciencias Naturales de Madrid Museo Tridentino di Scienze Naturali, Trento, Italy Museon, Den Haag (The Hague), Netherlands Museum of Natural History - Cormack Planetarium, Providence, RI Museums of Natural History, University of Copenhagen, Denmark Museum of Natural Sciences, Brussels, Belgium Museum of Southwestern Biology, University of New Mexico Museum of Vertebrate Zoology, University of California, Berkeley Museum of Victoria, Melbourne, Australia National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution Washington, DC National Museum of Natural History: Naturalis, Leiden, Netherlands The Natural History Museum, Berne, Switzerland The Natural History Museum, London Natuurhistorisch Museum Maastricht, The Netherlands Natuurmuseum Rotterdam, The Netherlands Neanderthal Museum, Mettmann, Germany New England Aquarium, Boston, Massachusetts The New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science The New York State Museum Nichols Arboretum, University of Michigan North Carolina Museum of Life and Science The North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences Nova Scotia Museum The Oakland Museum of California, Oakland, California The Oklahoma Biological Survey Oklahoma Museum of Natural History Pacific Grove Museum of Natural History, Monterey County, Cal. Paleontological Museum, University of Oslo, Norway The Peabody Museum of Natural History, Yale University Pratt Museum of Natural History, Amherst College Provincial Museum of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada The Rankin Museum of American and Natural History The Raptor Center, University of Minnesota Redpath Museum, McGill University, Montréal, Qué., Canada The Royal British Columbia Museum The Royal Ontario Museum (ROM), Toronto The Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology, Alberta, Canada San Diego Natural History Museum, San Diego, California Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History Satrosphere , Aberdeen, Scotland Senckenberg Natural History Museum, Frankfurt, Germany Sierra College Natural History Museum The Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of Natural History St. Louis Science Center Staatliches Museum für Naturkunde, Stuttgart, Germany State Darwin Museum, Moscow, Russia Birch Aquarium-Museum, Scripps Institute of Oceanography Sternberg Museum of Natural History Stoke-on-Trent City Museum Mayborn Museum Complex, Baylor University The Swedish Museum of Natural History Tallahassee Museum of History and Natural Science Tate Geological Museum, Casper, Wyoming The Tennessee Aquarium, Chattanooga, Tennessee The Texas Memorial Museum, University of Texas at Austin Teylers Museum, Haarlem, The Netherlands University of Alaska Museum, Fairbanks, Alaska University of Alberta Museum of Zoology University of California Museum of Paleontology University of Colorado Museum of Natural History University of Michigan Museum of Paleontology University of Michigan Museum of Zoology University of Michigan Exhibit Museum of Natural History University of Nebraska State Museum, Lincoln, Nebraska University of Oregon Museum of Natural History University of Washington Fish Collection University of Wisconsin-Madison Geology Museum University of Wyoming Geological Museum The Vanderbilt Museum, Centerport, Long Island, New York The Virginia Living Museum, Newport News, Virginia Virginia Marine Science Museum, Hampton Roads, Virginia Virginia Museum of Natural History Virginia Museum of Natural History, Virginia Tech branch Voralberger Naturschau Dornbirn, Dornbirn, Austria Worldwide Museum of Natural History Wyoming Dinosaur Center, Thermopolis, Wyoming Zoological Museum of University of Amsterdam, Netherlands Zoological Museum of the University of Copenhagen, Denmark American Anthropological Association www.aaanet.org Archaeological Institute of America Archaeological_Institute_of_America www.yale.edu/hraf Leakey Foundation www.leakeyfoundation.org Society for Applied Anthropology www.sfaa.net American Cultural Resources Association www.acra-crm.org Society for Economic Anthropology www.nautarch.tamu.edu/anth/sea Texas Archeological Society www.txarch.org Friends of America's Past www.friendsofpast.org Alaska Anthropological Association www.alaska.net/~oha/aaa/index.htm Canadian Anthropology Society (CASCA) www.socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/~casca Arizona Archaeological Society www.azarchsoc.org Southwestern Anthropological Association (SWAA) www.sjsu.edu/depts/anthropology/swaa Royal Anthropological Institute www.rai.anthropology.org.uk El Paso Archaeological Society www.epas.com International Society of Ethnobiology (ISE) www.guallart.dac.uga.edu/ISE Archaeological Society of Ohio www.ohioarch.org Derbyshire Archaeological Society www.nott.ac.uk/~aczsjm/das ============================ University of California, San Diego - Anthropology Club www.weber.ucsd.edu/~anthclub Northern Arizona University - Anthropology Club www.dana.ucc.nau.edu/~anthro-p University of Texas, Pan American - Anthropology Club www.panam.edu/orgs/anthropology Adelphi University Anthropology Club www.adelphi.edu/~anthclub California State University, Fresno - Anthropology Club www.csufresno.edu/anthroclub UT-Austin Anthropological Society www.utexas.edu/students/utas UCLA - Anthropological Undergraduate Student Association www.sscnet.ucla.edu/anthro/as University of Arizona Anthropology Club (cc) NASA Orbit Discovery Neil Armstrong Buzz Aldrin Space Shuttle JFK Sputnik Russia Ozone Layer Theatrics Billy Meier UFOs Extraterrestrials Plejaren theyfly.com Michael Horn Jmmanuel Kennedy Space Center Hoax President Bush Iran Baghdad Iraq Newsday Newsweek World News and World Report Stock Market ABC CBS ABC MSNBC CNBC PBS BBC Larry King CNN Fox News John Cameron Swayze Gasoline Prices OPEC Osama bin Laden 911 Conspiracy White House Press Corps Telescope Joe Palooka sci.astro Lawrence M. Small Wright Brothers Nobel Prize Lebanon You know, Ed, there are medicines for compulsion. You don't have to live with it your entire life.
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July 20th 06, 04:57 PM
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
"Ed Conrad" wrote in message ... First, this: http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.htm Ed, suicide really is an acceptable option in your case. There are no medical cures on the horizon for what ails you. Calcification of the brain, coal dust impregnation of the neurons, not good, Ed ... not good.
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July 20th 06, 08:42 PM
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Ed Conrad ( http://www.edconrad.com/ ),
I see that you've attracted the usual Usenet gans of topic/author stalkers, bashers and rusemasters doing their usual efforts at attempting to banish anything and everything you have to share. Gee whiz, what a surprise. I agree that the pure form of evolution ideology that we're being continually told and otherwise forced to accept, that's supposedly limited to this one and only Earthly environment is in fact absolute horse pucky, as well as being as you say "UNMITIGATED CRAP". Not that nature's random happenstance of evolution or bust doesn't transpire or otherwise adapt, as it's certainly capable of having mutated itself over great many tens if not hundreds of millions of years of getting around to either improving upon itself or having died off in the process because of having gone the wrong way (DNA mutations that zigged when it should of zagged), or perhaps at some point life other than human simply couldn't or rather didn't need to improve any further since so much of the existing life upon this Earth that truly matters has long since been ideally suited and thus having become perfectly engineered, by that of having achieved their final design as is, established as of millions of years prior to those first supposed intelligent humans ever having deposited their first butt-loads of their supposed intellectual crapolla upon this Earth. Your discoveries and subsequent research are every bit as invaluable truth as were each of those Dropa/Dzopa stone disks having told of their 10,000 BC history, of upon their arrival of having to adapt and of ET technology that got those small stature folks to this extremely wet and salty Earth of ours in the first place. The discovery of "man as old as coal" is clearly of more scientific importance than being given credit for, and for that you're being banished by the mainstream status quo is what offers the rest of us all the more proof that your discovery and subsequent research (that's more than sufficiently replicated) is simply a whole lot more honest, invaluable and of greater importance than what the rest of us are being allowed to know about. You are obviously another bad-guy outsider that's rocking those infomercial-science boats of their mainstream status quo, and thereby of a horrific danger to each and every one of their spendy institutions of somewhat phony baloney religious cults that have continually rejected upon all such forms of hard-science that'll suggest upon anything except their one and only purest form of creatorless/godless existence, and especially against any and all forms of our ever having involved via ET intelligent design, as opposed to our having to accept their one and only stance, of absolutely everything mainstream or bust being that of a purely terrestrial evolution that hardly took any geological or biological mutation time at all, as having been continually shoved in our face by way of those of us having "the right stuff". Only of much older evolution and/or of intelligent design as derived from what's external to our planet is what best explains as to what must have transpired so quickly on behalf of having created and/or having deposited the various life and thereby environment essentials and of introducing the intelligent forms of humanity that's now sequestered upon this ET terraformed Earth (remember that Earth was once upon a time Venus like), that's currently in the ongoing process of global warming and of our being eaten alive by all of those other complex DNA as having been technically superior to those of our's, whereas now we also have our very own new and improved germs, of insurmountably lethal staff microbes, as well as having to cope with the existing megatonnes worth of various robust insects and bugs as also having mutated so as to survive in spite of humanity, and we're even having to survive the ongoing demise that contributed by more than a few of our own kind going postal, as a demise that's insured by way of the vast majority of the somewhat modern day intelligent aspects of human life as having supposedly transpired only since the last ice-age, which obviously isn't affording sufficient terrestrial evolutionary logic nor hardly given enough biological time as to having naturally evolved such lethal intelligence. Instead of our evolution having naturally achieved better DNA attributes, plus whatever the supposed smarts to go along as it that should have managed, whereas I tend to believe this phase in our development hasn't transpired without such having involved a good deal of outside/ET give or take. Basically, we are a rather pathetic mutated evolution worth of a human species (ET rejects), of mostly incest born-again liars and bigots on steroids that would much rather allow folks and even of our own kind to die instead of sharing the truth. Your "First Men on the Moon - DRESS REHEARSAL -- Astronauts or AstroNOTS?" indicates that yourself as well as many of us do not believe we've walked upon that physically dark and nasty moon of ours, at least not to the extent and way that we've been informed, if at all. In addition to your "moontruth" http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.htm, there's so much more of hard-scientific truth to being told. However, what that silly NASA/Apollo movie demonstrates and thus proves is that the artificial simulation of their unusually reflective moon terrain and of folks in moonsuits walking about was perfectly doable without their ever leaving that guano island where so much of it transpired, as well as there being other proof-positive examples of their hocus-pocus photographic expertise to behold, that I would be glad to point out. Basically, it's scientifically a matter of proven facts upon facts that our Third Reich friends and of their Jewish collaborators of those NASA wizards got their Apollo EVA moon albedo dead wrong, the colors of that dark basalt and otherwise unavoidably solar and cosmic deposited worth of minerals and otherwise raw element rich terrain as simply incorrect, as well as of what should have been tens of meters deep in sooty moon-dust that's of so many local and contributed deposits including those of various salts is simply all wrong according to those supposed samples of our moon, as well as proven by their passive and very terrestrial like illumination spectrum as being clearly wrong, that is unless that raw sun was somehow limited to the spectrum of a xenon lamp. Those shadows upon the moon are technically wrong and inconsistant with the laws of physics, and there's absolutely no sign of any bluish earthshine and even a few too many of their Kodak moments as having been officially contributed where mother Earth was either greater than half illuminated or as having only provided a minimal crescent is either way having established the proof-positive as being another perfectly replicated example of their being dead wrong, as in LLPOF and perpetrated cold-war dead wrong. Apparently on this NASA/Apollo guano island of a moon that was artificially dusted with merely portland cement, whereas there's less radiation than a few nasty places here on Earth, and nothing of cosmic or solar contributed dosage to worry about. Apparently physical incoming debris is not the least bit of a safety factor, even though that stuff of all sizes and density can be arriving without warning from all directions at 30+ km/s. The depth of what would have to have been that of an extremely low surface-tension worthy moon-dust, that so nicely clumps w/o water or any other binder, is almost nonexistent (doesn't seem to exist at all within the cracks of those large moon rocks), which means that our salty moon either isn't very old or it's frequently getting blown clean, and it's certainly not being the least bit electrostatic nor in any way reactive. Thus most every law of physics is different upon that supposedly moonsuit friendly moon of ours. Now all we need are actual fly-by-rocket lander with powerful momentum reactions wheels so that actually expeditions can safely deal with those significant mascon issues. Somehow that NASA/Apollo guano moon of ours has avoided the solar and cosmic gaultlet of micro debris and of whatever's DNA nasty about the sorts of radiation that our Van Allen belts otherwise collect. Therefore, the science of "photogrammetric rectification" that's 100% founded upon the regular laws of physics and being easily 100% replicated as hard-science is simply adding insult to injury. Obviously, these NASA/Apollo folks are still into pretending they don't know the difference between a xenon lamp spectrum illuminated terrain and upon well known items like our flag, and that of what the actual raw solar spectrum represents. However, the unfiltered Kodak eye does, as do many others, as I certainly appreciate the difference. Silly me, I'd though those missions arrived shortly after sunrise. Therefore, why are these shadows getting so short? http://moonpans.com/posters/A15Poster.jpg Why is one item offering a medium length shadow and the other item nearly without an extended shadow? http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17sep.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17tracy.htm Here's a couple as having items depicted as well past quarter moon-day (perhaps 96 hours past sunrise), and of that guano like terrain of such a near white-out zone on that guano and portland cement dusted moon. http://moonpans.com/prints/23A16Lem.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23_a15sta10.htm Here's an underexposed crescent Earth that simply doesn't look right. What moon daytime would you say this represents? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...4/20149603.jpg Here's where there's more than a half an illuminated Earth at their disposal, thus unavoidably prior to lunar sunrise. http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...-134-20384.jpg http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...87-cropped.jpg Wouldn't you like other folks to see a few of those better raw photographic examples? At least the stuff obtained from orbit looks somewhat believable. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ BTW; here's another of their pesky oops blue-screen frames: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?73 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS14-73-10182 A couple more of those mid-flim of those pesky blue-screens to share and share alike: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?72 What the freaking sam hell are these depicting? (could this represent a weird little crescent of Earth?) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9329 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9331 Here's a good sunrise illuminated shot, but since the camera was directed a good 75+ degrees turned away from the sun, what's that other pesky item in the sky? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9302 I haven't bothered to use the official NASA/Apollo archives because, we all know that you pro-NASA/Apollo folks have the fullest and by far the quickest of access to such, just as you also have always had full access to that supercomputer and of it's fully interactive 3D renderings of a solar system simular at any given time or place, such as having been observed from any location that includes those actual Apollo landing sites, along with every star and planet correctly situated and rendered exactly as though it would have appeared to the human eye, as well as to that unfiltered Kodak eye which sees into certain spectrums as more sensitive than the human eye and even rather nicely into a portion of the UV-a spectrum. How may of those technically "impossible" photographs does it take in order to prove that we'd been snookered by those having "the right stuff"? JUST ONE PHOTOGRAPH? EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM? How much of Kodak's photon and film physics is not going to fly if it's suggesting something different than what the NASA/Apollo koran has to say? How much hard-science and of what's replicated about "photogrammetric rectification" are these folks going to continually exclude/reject upon? - Brad Guth
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Ed Conrad ( http://www.edconrad.com/ ),
We see that you've attracted the usual Usenet gangs and rusemasters of topic/author stalkers, bashers and disinformation wizards as doing their usual efforts at attempting to banish anything and everything you have to share. Gee whiz, what a surprise. I agree that this pure form of their evolution ideology that we're being continually told and otherwise forced to accept, that's supposedly limited to this one and only Earthly environment is in fact absolute horse pucky, as well as being as you say "UNMITIGATED CRAP". Not that nature's random happenstance of evolution or bust doesn't transpire or otherwise adapt, as it's certainly capable of having mutated itself over great many tens if not hundreds of millions of years of getting around to either improving upon itself or having died off in the process because of having gone the wrong way (DNA mutations that zigged when it should of zagged), or perhaps at some point life other than human simply couldn't or rather didn't need to improve any further since so much of the existing life upon this Earth that truly matters has long since been ideally suited and thus having become perfectly engineered, by that of having achieved their final design as is, established as of millions of years prior to those first supposed intelligent humans ever having deposited their first butt-loads of their supposed intellectual crapolla upon this Earth. Your discoveries and subsequent research are every bit as invaluable truth as were each of those Dropa/Dzopa stone disks having told of their 10,000 BC history, of upon their arrival of having to adapt and of ET technology that got those small stature folks to this extremely wet and salty Earth of ours in the first place. The discovery of "man as old as coal" is clearly of more scientific importance than being given credit for, and for that you're being banished by the mainstream status quo is what offers the rest of us all the more proof that your discovery and subsequent research (that's more than sufficiently replicated) is simply a whole lot more honest, invaluable and of greater importance than what the rest of us are being allowed to know about. You are obviously another bad-guy outsider that's rocking those infomercial-science boats of their mainstream status quo, and thereby of a horrific danger to each and every one of their spendy institutions of somewhat phony baloney religious cults that have continually rejected upon all such forms of hard-science that'll suggest upon anything except their one and only purest form of creatorless/godless existence, and especially against any and all forms of our ever having involved via ET intelligent design, as opposed to our having to accept their one and only stance, of absolutely everything mainstream or bust being that of a purely terrestrial evolution that hardly took any geological or biological mutation time at all, as having been continually shoved in our face by way of those of us having "the right stuff". Only of much older evolution and/or of intelligent design as derived from what's external to our planet is what best explains as to what must have transpired so quickly on behalf of having created and/or having deposited the various life and thereby environment essentials and of introducing the intelligent forms of humanity that's now sequestered upon this ET terraformed Earth (remember that Earth was once upon a time Venus like), that's currently in the ongoing process of global warming and of our being eaten alive by all of those other complex DNA as having been technically superior to those of our's, whereas now we also have our very own new and improved germs, of insurmountably lethal staff microbes, as well as having to cope with the existing megatonnes worth of various robust insects and bugs as also having mutated so as to survive in spite of humanity, and we're even having to survive the ongoing demise that contributed by more than a few of our own kind going postal, as a demise that's insured by way of the vast majority of the somewhat modern day intelligent aspects of human life as having supposedly transpired only since the last ice-age, which obviously isn't affording sufficient terrestrial evolutionary logic nor hardly given enough biological time as to having naturally evolved such lethal intelligence. Instead of our evolution having naturally achieved better DNA attributes, plus whatever the supposed smarts to go along as it that should have managed, whereas I tend to believe this phase in our development hasn't transpired without such having involved a good deal of outside/ET give or take. Basically, we are a rather pathetic mutated evolution worth of a human species (ET rejects), of mostly incest born-again liars and bigots on steroids that would much rather allow folks and even of our own kind to die instead of sharing the truth. Your "First Men on the Moon - DRESS REHEARSAL -- Astronauts or AstroNOTS?" indicates that yourself as well as many of us do not believe we've walked upon that physically dark and nasty moon of ours, at least not to the extent and way that we've been informed, if at all. In addition to your "moontruth" http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.htm, there's so much more of hard-scientific truth to being told. However, what that silly NASA/Apollo movie demonstrates and thus proves is that the artificial simulation of their unusually reflective moon terrain and of folks in moonsuits walking about was perfectly doable without their ever leaving that guano island where so much of it transpired, as well as there being other proof-positive examples of their hocus-pocus photographic expertise to behold, that I would be glad to point out. Basically, it's scientifically a matter of proven facts upon facts that our Third Reich friends and of their Jewish collaborators of all those NASA wizards got their Apollo EVA moon albedo dead wrong, the deep/rich colors of that dark basalt and otherwise unavoidably solar and cosmic deposited worth of minerals and raw element rich terrain as simply being incorrect, as well as of what should have been tens of meters deep in sooty moon-dust that's of so many local and contributed deposits including those of various salts is simply all wrong according to those supposed infomercial samples of our moon, as well as proven by their passive and very terrestrial like illumination spectrum as being clearly incorrect, that is unless that raw sun was somehow limited to the spectrum of a xenon lamp. Those shadows upon the moon are technically wrong and inconsistant with the laws of physics, and there's absolutely no sign of any bluish earthshine and even a few too many of their Kodak moments as having been officially contributed where mother Earth was either greater than half illuminated or as having only provided a minimal crescent is either way having established the proof-positive as being another perfectly replicated example of their being dead wrong, as in LLPOF and perpetrated cold-war dead wrong. Apparently on this NASA/Apollo guano island of a moon that was artificially dusted with merely portland cement, whereas there's less radiation than a few nasty places here on Earth, and nothing of cosmic or solar contributed dosage to worry about. Apparently physical incoming debris is not the least bit of a safety factor, even though that stuff of all sizes and density can be arriving without warning from all directions at 30+ km/s. The depth of what would have to have been that of an extremely low surface-tension worthy moon-dust, that so nicely clumps w/o water or any other binder, is almost nonexistent (doesn't seem to exist at all within the cracks of those large moon rocks), which means that our salty moon either isn't very old or it's frequently getting blown clean, and it's certainly not being the least bit electrostatic nor in any way reactive. Thus most every law of physics is different upon that supposedly moonsuit friendly moon of ours. Now all we need are actual fly-by-rocket lander with powerful momentum reactions wheels so that actually expeditions can safely deal with those significant mascon issues. Somehow that NASA/Apollo guano moon of ours has avoided the solar and cosmic gaultlet of micro debris and of whatever's DNA nasty about the sorts of radiation that our Van Allen belts otherwise collect. Therefore, the science of "photogrammetric rectification" that's 100% founded upon the regular laws of physics and being easily 100% replicated as hard-science is simply adding insult to injury. Obviously, these NASA/Apollo folks are still into pretending they don't know the difference between a xenon lamp spectrum illuminated terrain and upon well known items like our flag, and that of what the actual raw solar spectrum represents. However, the unfiltered Kodak eye does, as do many others, as I certainly appreciate the difference. Silly me, I'd though those missions arrived shortly after sunrise. Therefore, why are these shadows getting so short? http://moonpans.com/posters/A15Poster.jpg Why is one item offering a medium length shadow and the other item nearly without an extended shadow? http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17sep.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17tracy.htm Here's a couple as having items depicted as well past quarter moon-day (perhaps 96 hours past sunrise), and of that guano like terrain of such a near white-out zone on that guano and portland cement dusted moon. http://moonpans.com/prints/23A16Lem.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23_a15sta10.htm Here's an underexposed crescent Earth that simply doesn't look right. What moon daytime would you say this represents? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...4/20149603.jpg Here's where there's more than a half an illuminated Earth at their disposal, thus unavoidably prior to lunar sunrise. http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...-134-20384.jpg http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...87-cropped.jpg Wouldn't you like other folks to see a few of those better raw photographic examples? At least the stuff obtained from orbit looks somewhat believable. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ BTW; here's another of their pesky oops blue-screen frames: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?73 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS14-73-10182 A couple more of those mid-flim of those pesky blue-screens to share and share alike: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?72 What the freaking sam hell are these depicting? (could this represent a weird little crescent of Earth?) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9329 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9331 Here's a good sunrise illuminated shot, but since the camera was directed a good 75+ degrees turned away from the sun, what's that other pesky item in the sky? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9302 I haven't bothered to use the official NASA/Apollo archives because, we all know that you pro-NASA/Apollo folks have the fullest and by far the quickest of access to such, just as you also have always had full access to that supercomputer and of it's fully interactive 3D renderings of a solar system simular at any given time or place, such as having been observed from any location that includes those actual Apollo landing sites, along with every star and planet correctly situated and rendered exactly as though it would have appeared to the human eye, as well as to that unfiltered Kodak eye which sees into certain spectrums as more sensitive than the human eye and even rather nicely into a portion of the UV-a spectrum. How may of those technically "impossible" photographs does it take in order to prove that we'd been snookered by those having "the right stuff"? JUST ONE PHOTOGRAPH? EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM? How much of Kodak's photon and film physics is not going to fly if it's suggesting something different than what the NASA/Apollo koran has to say? How much hard-science and of what's replicated about "photogrammetric rectification" are these folks going to continually exclude/reject upon? - Brad Guth
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July 20th 06, 08:56 PM
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Brad, I suggest you ask Ed what meds he takes and take the same, but double
the amount. You need it more than retard Ed. "Brad Guth" wrote in message oups.com... Ed Conrad ( http://www.edconrad.com/ ), I see that you've attracted the usual Usenet gans of topic/author stalkers, bashers and rusemasters doing their usual efforts at attempting to banish anything and everything you have to share. Gee whiz, what a surprise. I agree that the pure form of evolution ideology that we're being continually told and otherwise forced to accept, that's supposedly limited to this one and only Earthly environment is in fact absolute horse pucky, as well as being as you say "UNMITIGATED CRAP". Not that nature's random happenstance of evolution or bust doesn't transpire or otherwise adapt, as it's certainly capable of having mutated itself over great many tens if not hundreds of millions of years of getting around to either improving upon itself or having died off in the process because of having gone the wrong way (DNA mutations that zigged when it should of zagged), or perhaps at some point life other than human simply couldn't or rather didn't need to improve any further since so much of the existing life upon this Earth that truly matters has long since been ideally suited and thus having become perfectly engineered, by that of having achieved their final design as is, established as of millions of years prior to those first supposed intelligent humans ever having deposited their first butt-loads of their supposed intellectual crapolla upon this Earth. Your discoveries and subsequent research are every bit as invaluable truth as were each of those Dropa/Dzopa stone disks having told of their 10,000 BC history, of upon their arrival of having to adapt and of ET technology that got those small stature folks to this extremely wet and salty Earth of ours in the first place. The discovery of "man as old as coal" is clearly of more scientific importance than being given credit for, and for that you're being banished by the mainstream status quo is what offers the rest of us all the more proof that your discovery and subsequent research (that's more than sufficiently replicated) is simply a whole lot more honest, invaluable and of greater importance than what the rest of us are being allowed to know about. You are obviously another bad-guy outsider that's rocking those infomercial-science boats of their mainstream status quo, and thereby of a horrific danger to each and every one of their spendy institutions of somewhat phony baloney religious cults that have continually rejected upon all such forms of hard-science that'll suggest upon anything except their one and only purest form of creatorless/godless existence, and especially against any and all forms of our ever having involved via ET intelligent design, as opposed to our having to accept their one and only stance, of absolutely everything mainstream or bust being that of a purely terrestrial evolution that hardly took any geological or biological mutation time at all, as having been continually shoved in our face by way of those of us having "the right stuff". Only of much older evolution and/or of intelligent design as derived from what's external to our planet is what best explains as to what must have transpired so quickly on behalf of having created and/or having deposited the various life and thereby environment essentials and of introducing the intelligent forms of humanity that's now sequestered upon this ET terraformed Earth (remember that Earth was once upon a time Venus like), that's currently in the ongoing process of global warming and of our being eaten alive by all of those other complex DNA as having been technically superior to those of our's, whereas now we also have our very own new and improved germs, of insurmountably lethal staff microbes, as well as having to cope with the existing megatonnes worth of various robust insects and bugs as also having mutated so as to survive in spite of humanity, and we're even having to survive the ongoing demise that contributed by more than a few of our own kind going postal, as a demise that's insured by way of the vast majority of the somewhat modern day intelligent aspects of human life as having supposedly transpired only since the last ice-age, which obviously isn't affording sufficient terrestrial evolutionary logic nor hardly given enough biological time as to having naturally evolved such lethal intelligence. Instead of our evolution having naturally achieved better DNA attributes, plus whatever the supposed smarts to go along as it that should have managed, whereas I tend to believe this phase in our development hasn't transpired without such having involved a good deal of outside/ET give or take. Basically, we are a rather pathetic mutated evolution worth of a human species (ET rejects), of mostly incest born-again liars and bigots on steroids that would much rather allow folks and even of our own kind to die instead of sharing the truth. Your "First Men on the Moon - DRESS REHEARSAL -- Astronauts or AstroNOTS?" indicates that yourself as well as many of us do not believe we've walked upon that physically dark and nasty moon of ours, at least not to the extent and way that we've been informed, if at all. In addition to your "moontruth" http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.htm, there's so much more of hard-scientific truth to being told. However, what that silly NASA/Apollo movie demonstrates and thus proves is that the artificial simulation of their unusually reflective moon terrain and of folks in moonsuits walking about was perfectly doable without their ever leaving that guano island where so much of it transpired, as well as there being other proof-positive examples of their hocus-pocus photographic expertise to behold, that I would be glad to point out. Basically, it's scientifically a matter of proven facts upon facts that our Third Reich friends and of their Jewish collaborators of those NASA wizards got their Apollo EVA moon albedo dead wrong, the colors of that dark basalt and otherwise unavoidably solar and cosmic deposited worth of minerals and otherwise raw element rich terrain as simply incorrect, as well as of what should have been tens of meters deep in sooty moon-dust that's of so many local and contributed deposits including those of various salts is simply all wrong according to those supposed samples of our moon, as well as proven by their passive and very terrestrial like illumination spectrum as being clearly wrong, that is unless that raw sun was somehow limited to the spectrum of a xenon lamp. Those shadows upon the moon are technically wrong and inconsistant with the laws of physics, and there's absolutely no sign of any bluish earthshine and even a few too many of their Kodak moments as having been officially contributed where mother Earth was either greater than half illuminated or as having only provided a minimal crescent is either way having established the proof-positive as being another perfectly replicated example of their being dead wrong, as in LLPOF and perpetrated cold-war dead wrong. Apparently on this NASA/Apollo guano island of a moon that was artificially dusted with merely portland cement, whereas there's less radiation than a few nasty places here on Earth, and nothing of cosmic or solar contributed dosage to worry about. Apparently physical incoming debris is not the least bit of a safety factor, even though that stuff of all sizes and density can be arriving without warning from all directions at 30+ km/s. The depth of what would have to have been that of an extremely low surface-tension worthy moon-dust, that so nicely clumps w/o water or any other binder, is almost nonexistent (doesn't seem to exist at all within the cracks of those large moon rocks), which means that our salty moon either isn't very old or it's frequently getting blown clean, and it's certainly not being the least bit electrostatic nor in any way reactive. Thus most every law of physics is different upon that supposedly moonsuit friendly moon of ours. Now all we need are actual fly-by-rocket lander with powerful momentum reactions wheels so that actually expeditions can safely deal with those significant mascon issues. Somehow that NASA/Apollo guano moon of ours has avoided the solar and cosmic gaultlet of micro debris and of whatever's DNA nasty about the sorts of radiation that our Van Allen belts otherwise collect. Therefore, the science of "photogrammetric rectification" that's 100% founded upon the regular laws of physics and being easily 100% replicated as hard-science is simply adding insult to injury. Obviously, these NASA/Apollo folks are still into pretending they don't know the difference between a xenon lamp spectrum illuminated terrain and upon well known items like our flag, and that of what the actual raw solar spectrum represents. However, the unfiltered Kodak eye does, as do many others, as I certainly appreciate the difference. Silly me, I'd though those missions arrived shortly after sunrise. Therefore, why are these shadows getting so short? http://moonpans.com/posters/A15Poster.jpg Why is one item offering a medium length shadow and the other item nearly without an extended shadow? http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17sep.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17tracy.htm Here's a couple as having items depicted as well past quarter moon-day (perhaps 96 hours past sunrise), and of that guano like terrain of such a near white-out zone on that guano and portland cement dusted moon. http://moonpans.com/prints/23A16Lem.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23_a15sta10.htm Here's an underexposed crescent Earth that simply doesn't look right. What moon daytime would you say this represents? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...4/20149603.jpg Here's where there's more than a half an illuminated Earth at their disposal, thus unavoidably prior to lunar sunrise. http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...-134-20384.jpg http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...87-cropped.jpg Wouldn't you like other folks to see a few of those better raw photographic examples? At least the stuff obtained from orbit looks somewhat believable. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ BTW; here's another of their pesky oops blue-screen frames: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?73 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS14-73-10182 A couple more of those mid-flim of those pesky blue-screens to share and share alike: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?72 What the freaking sam hell are these depicting? (could this represent a weird little crescent of Earth?) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9329 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9331 Here's a good sunrise illuminated shot, but since the camera was directed a good 75+ degrees turned away from the sun, what's that other pesky item in the sky? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9302 I haven't bothered to use the official NASA/Apollo archives because, we all know that you pro-NASA/Apollo folks have the fullest and by far the quickest of access to such, just as you also have always had full access to that supercomputer and of it's fully interactive 3D renderings of a solar system simular at any given time or place, such as having been observed from any location that includes those actual Apollo landing sites, along with every star and planet correctly situated and rendered exactly as though it would have appeared to the human eye, as well as to that unfiltered Kodak eye which sees into certain spectrums as more sensitive than the human eye and even rather nicely into a portion of the UV-a spectrum. How may of those technically "impossible" photographs does it take in order to prove that we'd been snookered by those having "the right stuff"? JUST ONE PHOTOGRAPH? EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM? How much of Kodak's photon and film physics is not going to fly if it's suggesting something different than what the NASA/Apollo koran has to say? How much hard-science and of what's replicated about "photogrammetric rectification" are these folks going to continually exclude/reject upon? - Brad Guth
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July 21st 06, 01:23 AM
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Hagar wrote:
Brad, I suggest you ask Ed what meds he takes and take the same, but double the amount. You need it more than retard Ed. You should know about "meds". Clearly folks like yourself don't see a problem with your own crapolla flowing up hill. You are each such incest pagans of the worse possible born-again liars, fornacating each of your brains out with one another, arnt you. By way of having avoided those questions you wouldn't dare answer and otherwise quoting from your NASA/Apollo koran makes you think that you're real smart. But of course, that's also what Hitler thought. As per usual, you and your kind don't see any problems with anything that's NASA, much less with having a more than a half illuminated Earth, or that of the slim crescent Earth as each otherwise representing a technically impossible look-see as supposedly having been obtained from the surface of our moon. How absolutely and totally pathetic and otherwise mainstream status quo chuck full of it, you both are, and very LLPOF Third Reich collaborating none the less. I suppose you're each Jewish democrats that voted for our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush), to boot, and as such you folks see nothing wrong with the carnage of innocent Muslims or that of our taking that bloody oil of their's. Ed Conrad ( http://www.edconrad.com/ ) is not the problem here. You folks know damn good and well that Venus and of a few other pesky items should have been unavoidably recorded, and as I'd say, why the freaking hell shouldn't those have been intentionally and for all sorts of perfectly good and not even all that unavoidable reasons included within in a few of those frames. Of course, other such Jews had previously gotten their Roman partners in crimes against humanity to put one of their very own jewboys on a stick, so what's not to wonder about what they've done to us as of lately? No wonder Usama bin Laden as did many others perceive that there was no alternative, whereas I'm thinking others may soon join in with more of the same unless we nuke them first. BTW; When exactly are you folks going to share those gamma and hard-X-ray numbers, of the best available hard-science that'll tell us what the daytime lunar surface environment is actually like? I agree with the 12.2 degrees per 24 hours. whereas I too can do such math, and guess what; those sunrise Apollo missions do not add up to those unusually short shadows of having to be 4+ days after the fact, of that sun being greater than 50 degrees, nor is that raw illumination spectrum or of the that oddly and clearly as being selectively retroreflective moon-dirt which just so happens to look exactly like portland cement the least bit correct. In fact, it seems there's a good many errors upon errors within each and every one of those hocus-pocus EVA obtained Kodak moments, which more than proves that you're all nothing but a nasty pack of incest cloned liars, and so much worse. - Brad Guth
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Brad, you are one sick puppy. Go and have your brain checked. You display
the usual left wing liberal out-of-touch symptoms, for which there is no known cure. Did you know that Columbus actually sailed off the edge of the world ? All the Viking settlements on Greenland were put there by the CIA years ago to deceive the public. Oh yea, GW controlled the jetliners of 9/11 via Radio Shack remotes from the Whitehouse. Go take a pill you sick mofo. "Brad Guth" wrote in message oups.com... Ed Conrad ( http://www.edconrad.com/ ), We see that you've attracted the usual Usenet gangs and rusemasters of topic/author stalkers, bashers and disinformation wizards as doing their usual efforts at attempting to banish anything and everything you have to share. Gee whiz, what a surprise. I agree that this pure form of their evolution ideology that we're being continually told and otherwise forced to accept, that's supposedly limited to this one and only Earthly environment is in fact absolute horse pucky, as well as being as you say "UNMITIGATED CRAP". Not that nature's random happenstance of evolution or bust doesn't transpire or otherwise adapt, as it's certainly capable of having mutated itself over great many tens if not hundreds of millions of years of getting around to either improving upon itself or having died off in the process because of having gone the wrong way (DNA mutations that zigged when it should of zagged), or perhaps at some point life other than human simply couldn't or rather didn't need to improve any further since so much of the existing life upon this Earth that truly matters has long since been ideally suited and thus having become perfectly engineered, by that of having achieved their final design as is, established as of millions of years prior to those first supposed intelligent humans ever having deposited their first butt-loads of their supposed intellectual crapolla upon this Earth. Your discoveries and subsequent research are every bit as invaluable truth as were each of those Dropa/Dzopa stone disks having told of their 10,000 BC history, of upon their arrival of having to adapt and of ET technology that got those small stature folks to this extremely wet and salty Earth of ours in the first place. The discovery of "man as old as coal" is clearly of more scientific importance than being given credit for, and for that you're being banished by the mainstream status quo is what offers the rest of us all the more proof that your discovery and subsequent research (that's more than sufficiently replicated) is simply a whole lot more honest, invaluable and of greater importance than what the rest of us are being allowed to know about. You are obviously another bad-guy outsider that's rocking those infomercial-science boats of their mainstream status quo, and thereby of a horrific danger to each and every one of their spendy institutions of somewhat phony baloney religious cults that have continually rejected upon all such forms of hard-science that'll suggest upon anything except their one and only purest form of creatorless/godless existence, and especially against any and all forms of our ever having involved via ET intelligent design, as opposed to our having to accept their one and only stance, of absolutely everything mainstream or bust being that of a purely terrestrial evolution that hardly took any geological or biological mutation time at all, as having been continually shoved in our face by way of those of us having "the right stuff". Only of much older evolution and/or of intelligent design as derived from what's external to our planet is what best explains as to what must have transpired so quickly on behalf of having created and/or having deposited the various life and thereby environment essentials and of introducing the intelligent forms of humanity that's now sequestered upon this ET terraformed Earth (remember that Earth was once upon a time Venus like), that's currently in the ongoing process of global warming and of our being eaten alive by all of those other complex DNA as having been technically superior to those of our's, whereas now we also have our very own new and improved germs, of insurmountably lethal staff microbes, as well as having to cope with the existing megatonnes worth of various robust insects and bugs as also having mutated so as to survive in spite of humanity, and we're even having to survive the ongoing demise that contributed by more than a few of our own kind going postal, as a demise that's insured by way of the vast majority of the somewhat modern day intelligent aspects of human life as having supposedly transpired only since the last ice-age, which obviously isn't affording sufficient terrestrial evolutionary logic nor hardly given enough biological time as to having naturally evolved such lethal intelligence. Instead of our evolution having naturally achieved better DNA attributes, plus whatever the supposed smarts to go along as it that should have managed, whereas I tend to believe this phase in our development hasn't transpired without such having involved a good deal of outside/ET give or take. Basically, we are a rather pathetic mutated evolution worth of a human species (ET rejects), of mostly incest born-again liars and bigots on steroids that would much rather allow folks and even of our own kind to die instead of sharing the truth. Your "First Men on the Moon - DRESS REHEARSAL -- Astronauts or AstroNOTS?" indicates that yourself as well as many of us do not believe we've walked upon that physically dark and nasty moon of ours, at least not to the extent and way that we've been informed, if at all. In addition to your "moontruth" http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.htm, there's so much more of hard-scientific truth to being told. However, what that silly NASA/Apollo movie demonstrates and thus proves is that the artificial simulation of their unusually reflective moon terrain and of folks in moonsuits walking about was perfectly doable without their ever leaving that guano island where so much of it transpired, as well as there being other proof-positive examples of their hocus-pocus photographic expertise to behold, that I would be glad to point out. Basically, it's scientifically a matter of proven facts upon facts that our Third Reich friends and of their Jewish collaborators of all those NASA wizards got their Apollo EVA moon albedo dead wrong, the deep/rich colors of that dark basalt and otherwise unavoidably solar and cosmic deposited worth of minerals and raw element rich terrain as simply being incorrect, as well as of what should have been tens of meters deep in sooty moon-dust that's of so many local and contributed deposits including those of various salts is simply all wrong according to those supposed infomercial samples of our moon, as well as proven by their passive and very terrestrial like illumination spectrum as being clearly incorrect, that is unless that raw sun was somehow limited to the spectrum of a xenon lamp. Those shadows upon the moon are technically wrong and inconsistant with the laws of physics, and there's absolutely no sign of any bluish earthshine and even a few too many of their Kodak moments as having been officially contributed where mother Earth was either greater than half illuminated or as having only provided a minimal crescent is either way having established the proof-positive as being another perfectly replicated example of their being dead wrong, as in LLPOF and perpetrated cold-war dead wrong. Apparently on this NASA/Apollo guano island of a moon that was artificially dusted with merely portland cement, whereas there's less radiation than a few nasty places here on Earth, and nothing of cosmic or solar contributed dosage to worry about. Apparently physical incoming debris is not the least bit of a safety factor, even though that stuff of all sizes and density can be arriving without warning from all directions at 30+ km/s. The depth of what would have to have been that of an extremely low surface-tension worthy moon-dust, that so nicely clumps w/o water or any other binder, is almost nonexistent (doesn't seem to exist at all within the cracks of those large moon rocks), which means that our salty moon either isn't very old or it's frequently getting blown clean, and it's certainly not being the least bit electrostatic nor in any way reactive. Thus most every law of physics is different upon that supposedly moonsuit friendly moon of ours. Now all we need are actual fly-by-rocket lander with powerful momentum reactions wheels so that actually expeditions can safely deal with those significant mascon issues. Somehow that NASA/Apollo guano moon of ours has avoided the solar and cosmic gaultlet of micro debris and of whatever's DNA nasty about the sorts of radiation that our Van Allen belts otherwise collect. Therefore, the science of "photogrammetric rectification" that's 100% founded upon the regular laws of physics and being easily 100% replicated as hard-science is simply adding insult to injury. Obviously, these NASA/Apollo folks are still into pretending they don't know the difference between a xenon lamp spectrum illuminated terrain and upon well known items like our flag, and that of what the actual raw solar spectrum represents. However, the unfiltered Kodak eye does, as do many others, as I certainly appreciate the difference. Silly me, I'd though those missions arrived shortly after sunrise. Therefore, why are these shadows getting so short? http://moonpans.com/posters/A15Poster.jpg Why is one item offering a medium length shadow and the other item nearly without an extended shadow? http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17sep.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23a17tracy.htm Here's a couple as having items depicted as well past quarter moon-day (perhaps 96 hours past sunrise), and of that guano like terrain of such a near white-out zone on that guano and portland cement dusted moon. http://moonpans.com/prints/23A16Lem.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/23_a15sta10.htm Here's an underexposed crescent Earth that simply doesn't look right. What moon daytime would you say this represents? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...4/20149603.jpg Here's where there's more than a half an illuminated Earth at their disposal, thus unavoidably prior to lunar sunrise. http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...-134-20384.jpg http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...87-cropped.jpg Wouldn't you like other folks to see a few of those better raw photographic examples? At least the stuff obtained from orbit looks somewhat believable. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ BTW; here's another of their pesky oops blue-screen frames: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?73 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS14-73-10182 A couple more of those mid-flim of those pesky blue-screens to share and share alike: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?72 What the freaking sam hell are these depicting? (could this represent a weird little crescent of Earth?) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9329 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9331 Here's a good sunrise illuminated shot, but since the camera was directed a good 75+ degrees turned away from the sun, what's that other pesky item in the sky? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9302 I haven't bothered to use the official NASA/Apollo archives because, we all know that you pro-NASA/Apollo folks have the fullest and by far the quickest of access to such, just as you also have always had full access to that supercomputer and of it's fully interactive 3D renderings of a solar system simular at any given time or place, such as having been observed from any location that includes those actual Apollo landing sites, along with every star and planet correctly situated and rendered exactly as though it would have appeared to the human eye, as well as to that unfiltered Kodak eye which sees into certain spectrums as more sensitive than the human eye and even rather nicely into a portion of the UV-a spectrum. How may of those technically "impossible" photographs does it take in order to prove that we'd been snookered by those having "the right stuff"? JUST ONE PHOTOGRAPH? EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM? How much of Kodak's photon and film physics is not going to fly if it's suggesting something different than what the NASA/Apollo koran has to say? How much hard-science and of what's replicated about "photogrammetric rectification" are these folks going to continually exclude/reject upon? - Brad Guth
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Hagar wrote:
Brad, you are one sick puppy. Go and have your brain checked. You display the usual left wing liberal out-of-touch symptoms, for which there is no known cure. Did you know that Columbus actually sailed off the edge of the world ? All the Viking settlements on Greenland were put there by the CIA years ago to deceive the public. Oh yea, GW controlled the jetliners of 9/11 via Radio Shack remotes from the Whitehouse. Go take a pill you sick mofo. What, no real science, no actual facts as based upon the regular laws of physics that'll replicate; is that the best infomercial crapolla that you've got? - Brad Guth
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DRESS REHEARSAL -- First Men on the Moon
Hagar wrote:
Brad, you are one sick puppy. Go and have your brain checked. You display the usual left wing liberal out-of-touch symptoms, for which there is no known cure. Did you know that Columbus actually sailed off the edge of the world ? All the Viking settlements on Greenland were put there by the CIA years ago to deceive the public. Oh yea, GW controlled the jetliners of 9/11 via Radio Shack remotes from the Whitehouse. Go take a pill you sick mofo. With further regard to our having easily and rather unavoidably photographed a few sufficiently bright items other than the physically dark moon itself, and that of mother Earth, Brad Guth wrote: : Eliminating atmospheric filtration, and the matter of fact that the : unfiltered Kodak film was extremely sensitive to such blue, indigo, : violet, near-UV and even a bit of UV-a, by which the likes of the : Sirius star system has way more than it's fair share of such photons. kmmposting; Reference for that, please. KODAK, NASA, ESA, team KECK and just about any other source that's equally approved and replicated to death. BTW; Where's all of that salt, lead and the unavoidable radium deposits from our moon samples? Why does Mars offer a good hundred fold more of those surface meteorites and of secondary impact shards to show us? Why are those few and far between meteorites and secondary impact shards upon our moon of such low contrast (0.55~0.65 albedo), and otherwise w/o color? Why is that highly reflective if not selectively retroreflective moon-dust that's affording such a nice amount of surface-tension as being of such terrific physical support or of such good clumping compression capacity and/or robust, and otherwise so unusually shallow? Since the GSO of what our Van Allen belt is worth 2e3 Sv/year, as based upon being shielded by 5/16" worth of 5086 aluminum, and since our naked moon has always been measurably worse off; How the heck did they do it? : Where do you suppose all of that sodium/salt is coming from? KMM; eh? KMM, You've got to be absolutely kidding, as even our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) isn't that dumbfounded. The well documented and even photographed 900,000 km comet like trail of solar wind extracted element of sodium from our moon isn't hardly a secret. In spite of the NASA/Apollo koran; that physically dark and nasty moon of ours is still as salty as all get out. Though otherwise "KMM" has provided nice infomercial-science links of what we've all been informed of and thus knew about for decades, and otherwise of those unfiltered Kodak moments of that guano moon that's so lightly dusted in a thin layer of portland cement that's so bone-dry clumping and otherwise selectively retroreflective under such nifty xenon lamp illumination to boot. Thanks ever so much. What's so complicated or otherwise taboo/nondisclosure about folks sharing the truth and nothing but the truth? What's so unusable about the regular laws of physics and of the sorts of hard-science that's fully replicated? What's so unlikely about various individuals and/or of their governments as having made mistakes or simply having been dishonest, greedy and highly bigoted? What's your all-knowing expertise or best SWAG of an answer as to each of those pesky "blue-screen" frames? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?73 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...?AS14-73-10182 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...m/magazine/?72 What's your all-knowing best answers to their having photographed a greater than half Earth and of the highly reflective moon being well past sunrise, and otherwise that of an unusually slim crescent of Earth as photographed from the moon? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...-134-20384.jpg http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...87-cropped.jpg http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...4/20149603.jpg http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9329 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap.../?AS14-66-9331 WHERE's VENUS ? On at least these three Apollo missions of A-11, A-14, A-16, and since you've all had access to the very best supercomputer and of the fully interactive 3D solar system simulator that'll fully render a very photographically realistic (AKA true to life) representation of nearly all there is as viewed from anywhere at any date and time: Where's Venus as viewed from the moon? While you're at it with utilizing that absolutely nifty supercomputer of ours, and of that fully interactive 3D capable rendering software of that absolutely nifty solar system simulator of ours; where's the likes of Sirius throughout all of those APOLLO and of so many other robotic missions before and especially of those after having at least an extra 4 db or 16 fold better dynamic range to offer (these days a few of the 16 db capable CCDs are available as also having been in orbit and otherwise 100+% bought and paid for by public dollars as well as via tax-avoidance dollars (thereby same as public dollars)? What's the unfiltered Kodak photographic recorded difference between that of using a xenon lamp spectrum and that of having to deal with the raw solar illumination spectrum? With a view of Earth situated within the same frame; Why is that moon of ours such a deeply rich composite of golden brown tinted or coated basalts and of various other dark element deposits as having been viewed from orbit, and otherwise entirely of such clean portland cement and of somewhat lighter contrasting substances that's absolutely colorless and even somewhat selectively retroreflective as viewed from the surface? BTW No.2; Ed Conrad (http://www.edconrad.com/) has been saying all along that man, or at least of something very human or perhaps ET like, is at the very least as old as coal, and that we haven't yet walked on that physically dark and nasty moon of ours. got it? If walking upon that moon of ours, besides being extremely electrostatic dusty as all get out (tens of meters in depth none the less), think Van Allen belt TBI dosage nasty, as in GSO times at least ten = 2e4 Sv/year while shielded by 5/16" worth of 5086 aluminum (~2 g/cm2). Gee whiz, folks, that's only worth 228 rads/hr. On a truly bad solar day you can go with another ten fold worse off, and if it's a totally passive solar day there's no chance in hell of that surface environment being less than 23 rads/hr by day and perhaps at best 2.8 rads/hr by nighttime/earthshine. Either way, you'd best have that personal cash of banked bone marrow standing by, and perhaps a few of those vital spare body parts just in case things get a little nastier than you'd planned on. Learn braille and get yourself a good dog, especially since you could soon become blind. - Brad Guth
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