Return to the Moon?

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:29:45 -0700, "revlove"
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:06:00 GMT, "Mike Rhino"
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It sounds like he wants to use privately owned rockets to reach the moon.
That seems a bit unrealistic. The government could pay a private company
$20 billion to build a moon rocket or the government could build it
itself
for the same money. I'm not sure I see the point in trying to privatize
it.
He might be advocating private rockets to low Earth orbit, but I'm an
advocate of abandoning low Earth orbit.

Why don't you do us all a favor, and abandon the solar system
altogether?

Thanks.

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:29:45 -0700, "revlove"
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:06:00 GMT, "Mike Rhino"
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

It sounds like he wants to use privately owned rockets to reach the
moon.
That seems a bit unrealistic. The government could pay a private
company
$20 billion to build a moon rocket or the government could build it
itself
for the same money. I'm not sure I see the point in trying to
privatize
it.
He might be advocating private rockets to low Earth orbit, but I'm an
advocate of abandoning low Earth orbit.

Why don't you do us all a favor, and abandon the solar system
altogether?

Thanks.

--
V.G.

I know of a nice place in the Spica Sector. But the music, socalled,
that
they have there is AWFUL.

~rev


The radio wavefront of our Thelonious Monk broadcasts have not got
there yet. They're in for a revolution, or two. Just be patient.
--
V.G.

We need FTL jazz, man.

~rev

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:32:28 -0700, "revlove"
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:29:45 -0700, "revlove"
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" wrote in
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:06:00 GMT, "Mike Rhino"
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

It sounds like he wants to use privately owned rockets to reach the
moon.
That seems a bit unrealistic. The government could pay a private
company
$20 billion to build a moon rocket or the government could build it
itself
for the same money. I'm not sure I see the point in trying to
privatize
it.
He might be advocating private rockets to low Earth orbit, but I'm an
advocate of abandoning low Earth orbit.

Why don't you do us all a favor, and abandon the solar system
altogether?

Thanks.

--
V.G.

I know of a nice place in the Spica Sector. But the music, socalled,
that
they have there is AWFUL.

~rev


The radio wavefront of our Thelonious Monk broadcasts have not got
there yet. They're in for a revolution, or two. Just be patient.
--
V.G.

We need FTL jazz, man.

~rev


Cool, Man!
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In article ,
Steve Dufour wrote:
Not just moonwalking
By Dana Rohrabacher

Groan...

I applaud President Bush for giving the nation and NASA a defining challenge.

Don't worry folks: NASA hasn't let go of its old goal #1, to "complete"
the space station, despite anything that Bush or Rohrabacher has to say
about it. The station's backers are very good lobbyists and they are
still winning the game.

Finally, the profitability of a lunar presence must be understood.

Yes, when companies like SpaceHab land federal contracts, then they
are profitable.

Much of the hardware for living on
the moon and for the exploration can be made from raw materials mined
from the moon itself.

America is posed to explore and to exploit the space frontier in
the spirit of Lewis and Clark and the Wright brothers.

Except that building hardware from "raw materials mined from the moon
itself" is not like the Wright Brothers. They didn't make the Wright
flyer out of the sand at Kitty Hawk. And a manned mission to Mars is
not like Lewis and Clark. Mars conceivably has a few microbial fossils,
but it doesn't have Indians to feed the astronauts and lend them their
wives and so on.

The biggest difference of all is that both the Wright flyer and the
Lewis and Clark expedition were cheap and genuine projects. NASA manned
spaceflight, with or without Bush's "vision", is expensive and bogus.

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not like Lewis and Clark. Mars conceivably has a few microbial fossils,
but it doesn't have Indians to feed the astronauts and lend them their
wives and so on.

The mission would have to carry or produce its own food. You can't do that
walking across a continent, but you can in an interplanetary space craft.

And if NASA can't get a crew that can go without "borrowing a wife" for the
length of the mission, then no Americans will ever travel in deep space.

G EddieA95 wrote:

And if NASA can't get a crew that can go without "borrowing a wife" for the
length of the mission, then no Americans will ever travel in deep space.

So... no missions to Mars for Bill Clinton, then?

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And if NASA can't get a crew that can go without "borrowing a wife" for the
length of the mission, then no Americans will ever travel in deep space.

So... no missions to Mars for Bill Clinton, then?

Oh, by all means, send him to Mars, *with* his wife, as long as it's one
way!!!!