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#221
June 2nd 06, 08:38 PM
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Fred J. McCall ) wrote:
: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : : : :: :Rand Simberg ) wrote: : :: :: On Tue, 30 May 2006 16:13:01 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat : :: :: Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in : :: :: such a way as to indicate that: : :: : : :: :: : :: :: : :: :: Eric Chomko wrote: : :: :: : :: :: : :: :: Rand, he's not agreeing with me per se, he's reading the writing on the : :: :: wall. : :: :: : :: :: : :: :: BTW- Halliburton lost money under Cheney's CEOship, so maybe he's trying : :: :: to make up for past mistakes. : :: :: Here, we see Halliburton proving war is good for stock prices and other : :: :: growing things: : :: :: http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/5y/h/hal : :: :: When the war starts, it's at around $20 per share; at the moment it's : :: :: down from its $80 per share high to around $75. : :: : : :: :: Yes, obviously, that's the only reason we had a war--for Halliburton. : :: : : :: :Not just for Halliburton but others that profit from war as well. The ones : :: :that were able to bankroll Bush into the White House. : : : :: You mean the majority of the American people? I don't know how to : :: break this to you, El Chimpo, but Bush collected more in SMALL : :: INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS than his opponents. The idea that he (or anyone) : :: can be "bankrolled into the White House" by big companies is beyond : :: ignorant and ill-informed and well into stuck on stupid. : : : :Not big companies but a small cabal of powerful people. : For a definition of 'small' that leads to them outnumbering the : individual contributors giving to the Democratic candidate.... If you think the Power Elite is split down party lines, then you're as ignorant as ever. : :: :PNAC, Rand, we have : :: :been telling you this for a few years now. Why do you continue to pretend : :: :not to know? : : : :: Because you say all sorts of silly tripe and support none of it. : : : :I have backed up everything I have posted. Have you ever read C. Wright : :Mills's book, "The Power Elite"? Anthony Sutton's, "The American : :Establishment"? : Nope. But then I haven't read lots of things. No doubt the same : thing applies to everyone. I agree there. Seems like you don't want to read these books, either. What's a matter, Fred? Afraid they'll challenge your world view? : :No, you read right-wing rags and shake your head in agreement, and when : :you disagree, you write it off as left-wing media, like so many other : :dittohead Limbots... : Don't look now but you're lying again. It's ok, though. We're used : to that from you. We? You and that frog in your pocket? Again, you have no friends and hate yourself. : Hint: I read fiction, technical stuff, and Usenet. I figured as much. : :: :: Loosen up the chinstrap on that tinfoil hat, Pat--it's cutting off the : :: :: blood supply to your brain. : :: : : :: :Yep, just call him a conspiracy buff and move on. How establishment of : :: :you. Thanks to dupes like, you Rand, the powers-at-be continue to rip off : :: :all of us. : : : :: You're even loonier than I thought you were, El Chimpo, and that's : :: going some. : : : :Yeah, and you're a stablizing force in the universe. McClod, idiots like : :you voted Bush in office becuse of ignorance. Nothing more. : Yes. Idiots like me voted Bush into office because of ignorance on : the part of those running against him and their supporters. Nope, the GOP propaganda machine was able to dupe more people into thinking Kerry was a bad guy vs. Bush having any real credentials. We deserve the leaders we elect. : There was no other credible choice. As long as Democrats keep : thinking (and I use the term loosely) as you do here, that will : continue to be the case. Until the GOP steps in their own **** once again. When the really big **** happens, the GOP is in office. I cite the Great Depression as reference number 1. Eric : -- : "False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the : soul with evil." : -- Socrates 
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#222
June 2nd 06, 09:07 PM
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Fred J. McCall ) wrote:
: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : : : :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: : : :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: :: : : :: :: :Fred J. McCall (aka Mclod) wrote: : :: :: :: :: What's too bad is that folks like you are unable to realize that "I : :: :: :: :: Hate Bush And So Should You" simply isn't a convincing argument, much : :: :: :: :: less a good policy prescription for what you'd change. : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :I don't care if you love the guy, based upon results, he's weak... : :: :: : : :: :: :: And I don't care what stupid **** you believe I think, so far your : :: :: :: only recommendation for change is pretty well non-existent. What : :: :: :: would 'your' candidate do differently, other than be 'not George'. : :: :: : : :: :: :Nope, George was party to starting a war for profit. : :: : : :: :: You're a liar, El Chimpo. : :: : : :: :Attack the message, McClod, not the messenger. Exactly what part of the : :: :message is a lie? : : : :: All of it. You said one sentence. It's a lie. : : : :: Is that not clear enough for you? : : : :You took the coward's way out as usual. Have you always been a wetnap? : :Friggin wimp... : You lie and then insult me for pointing it out? What lie, Fred? You like calling others liars but fail to challenge your own beliefs. Maybe all these people that appear to you as liars, exist because you're truly screwed up? You ARE the only common entity in the eqaution, so... : Friggin' dip****... : :: :: :He and others of his : :: :: :ilk talk about alternate forms of energy but do nothing about it in the : :: :: :area that they could, like funding research. : :: : : :: :: That's why we're seeing hybrid vehicles and the big push to ethanol : :: :: fuels, right? : :: : : :: :A token attempt. : :: : :: You obviously are absolutely uninformed. You have to be to think : :: that. : : : :The only thing Bush has done is start the war in Iraq. : False statement. Oh, done nothing about $3 gas prices. Forgot that one. :  on't you find it a: :little odd that he made the claim that he won't pull out the troops at all : :for any reason? : No. Don't you find it a little dishonest to utter lies like that one? : Yes, you're lying AGAIN... No, Fred! Bush clearly stated that he has no intention to pull the troops out while he is president and further than another president will have to do it. : :That being nearly three years before he's out of office. I : :do. Why make a comment like that? It is obvious that the war and nothing : :else, including different forms of energy is Bush's sole commitment. : Please provide a credible cite for the statement you claim was made. And read the actual Bush quotes: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...21_bush22.html : :: :Get a Democrat in there and see what happens with hybrids : :: :and gasohol. : :: : :: We had a Democrat in there for 8 years before Bush. What happened : :: with hybrids and gasohol, El Chimpo? : : : :Gas was just over a buck a gallon back then. Now it's $3 a gallon. : Gas hit a historical high in constant dollar terms under Carter : (another Democrat). What did HE do? Tried to use gasohol but was blocked. Tried to get hostages out or Iraq, too, but was blocked. Then when the deal with the hostage-takers was made by Bush's daddy, they were freed the same day Reagan took office. The latter is treason, BTW. : :So you : :have a situation where we should be looking for alternate forms of energy : :due to high gas prices but since a friend of Big Oil is in the WH nothing : :gets done and they get richer. : No, we just have a situation where people like you lie. Translation: Fred claiming someone is a liar really means he's too clueless to understand the situation at hand. : :: And just by the way, I'm not talking about gasohol (which we use : :: around here and have for a long time). I'm talking about 80% ethanol : :: fuel REPLACING gasoline as a fuel, not just 10% being used as an : :: oxidizing agent in gasohol. : : : :Not with your boy in the WH... : Pull your head out and check the facts, El Chimpo. You're lying : again. Provide a cite where Bush has done more for alternative forms of energy as compared to what Carter tried but was overruled, mostly by bought members of your party like our current president. : :: :: Pull your head out. : :: : : :: :: And I note that you STILL don't answer just what your candidate would : :: :: do differently, other than be 'not George'. : :: : : :: :Anyone else wouldn't pander to Big Oil as W is now doing. : :: : :: Don't look now but you're lying again, El Chimpo. : : : :Nope, right on target... : It's easy to hit 'targets' when you're willing to lie, as you do : constantly. Fred, again, confusing me lying with his lack of knowledge and shallow "thinking". : :: :: :: :: By all means, you keep it up. It pretty much guarantees that you'll : :: :: :: :: be singing the same song in 2009 that you're singing right now, with : :: :: :: :: only the names changed. : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :You have to get past the 2006 elections before your rhetoric has any effect. Do : :: :: :: :you think the GOP is going to actually gain seats in Congress? If so, would you : :: :: :: :like to bet? I take PayPal... : :: :: : : :: :: :: You won't be seeing George Bush replaced in 2006. If you think you : :: :: :: will, would you like to bet? I take cash. : :: :: : : :: :: :You're right, he'll just be more and more of a lame duck. : :: : : :: :: And you and yours will become more and more birdbrained to match. : :: : : :: :You're the coot. : :: : :: And you're the coot droppings. : : : :And you're the insect eating coot droppings. : Make up your mind. You said I was the coot. : What are you, about 7? ....times smarter than you... : :: :: :: If you think George Bush's 'negative coattails' have anything to do : :: :: :: with Congressional elections, you must have been asleep for about the : :: :: :: last quarter century or more. : :: :: : : :: :: :We'll just have to wait and see. : :: : : :: :: Presidential 'coattails' haven't worked for at least a quarter century : :: :: now, even in the classical positive sense during presidential election : :: :: years. : :: : : :: :Explain why the GOP took over Congress in 1994. Clinton had nothing to do : :: :with that? : :: : :: Nope. CONGRESS had to do with that. Take a look at Clinton's : :: popularity in 1994. He won the Presidency again 2 years later. Can : :: you seriously believe that the turnover in Congress was related to : :: CLINTON? : : : :That's what the GOP rhetoric was in the era. Go ahead ane read what Newt : :Gingrich said about it at the time. : I don't need to read it. I was around then. So were others in a coma... : You're kidding yourself. : :: :: If you think 'negative coattails' are going to be a telling factor in : :: :: an off-year election, you need to move away from the crack pipe. : :: :: You've had enough. : :: : : :: :Again we'll have to wait and see. Besides I think Marrion Barry is more : :: :your type than mine... : :: : :: Don't flatter yourself, El Chimpo. You don't think. : : : :Clearer, deeper and more thorough than you McClod. Did you even make : :sergeant after you dropped out of high school and joined the military? : The Navy doesn't have sergeants and I have multiple college degrees. Seaman or a Chief? : How long are you going to be in that coop job at NASA before you have : to go back to school, El Chimpo? Funny you mention that as I'm getting my second technical BS degree right now! Already have an MS in computer systems management. I'll put my resume' up against yours any time, McClod. : :: :Get out of t he closet, Fred, you'll feel better about yourself. : :: : :: No matter how you beg, you're not my type, El Chimpo. I don't date : :: outside the human species. : : : :I doubt you date as much as you stalk... : But then, you seem to 'doubt' most of reality. Tighten down that : tinfoil beanie, El Chimpo.... You changing into an alien? Eric : -- : "I'll bet your father spent the first year of your life : throwing rocks at the stork." : -- Irving Brecher (Marx Bros. "At the Circus")
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#224
June 3rd 06, 03:31 AM
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(Eric Chomko) wrote:
:Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: : :: :: :Rand Simberg ) wrote: :: :: :: On Tue, 30 May 2006 16:13:01 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat :: :: :: Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in :: :: :: such a way as to indicate that: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: Eric Chomko wrote: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: Rand, he's not agreeing with me per se, he's reading the writing on the :: :: :: wall. :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: :: BTW- Halliburton lost money under Cheney's CEOship, so maybe he's trying :: :: :: to make up for past mistakes. :: :: :: Here, we see Halliburton proving war is good for stock prices and other :: :: :: growing things: :: :: :: http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/5y/h/hal :: :: :: When the war starts, it's at around $20 per share; at the moment it's :: :: :: down from its $80 per share high to around $75. :: :: : :: :: :: Yes, obviously, that's the only reason we had a war--for Halliburton. :: :: : :: :: :Not just for Halliburton but others that profit from war as well. The ones :: :: :that were able to bankroll Bush into the White House. :: : :: :: You mean the majority of the American people? I don't know how to :: :: break this to you, El Chimpo, but Bush collected more in SMALL :: :: INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS than his opponents. The idea that he (or anyone) :: :: can be "bankrolled into the White House" by big companies is beyond :: :: ignorant and ill-informed and well into stuck on stupid. :: : :: :Not big companies but a small cabal of powerful people. : :: For a definition of 'small' that leads to them outnumbering the :: individual contributors giving to the Democratic candidate.... : :If you think the Power Elite is split down party lines, then you're as :ignorant as ever. Gee, it's a good thing I speak 'stupid political cliche' or I might be confused by your spate of non sequiturs. :: :: :PNAC, Rand, we have :: :: :been telling you this for a few years now. Why do you continue to pretend :: :: :not to know? :: : :: :: Because you say all sorts of silly tripe and support none of it. :: : :: :I have backed up everything I have posted. Have you ever read C. Wright :: :Mills's book, "The Power Elite"? Anthony Sutton's, "The American :: :Establishment"? : :: Nope. But then I haven't read lots of things. No doubt the same :: thing applies to everyone. : :I agree there. Seems like you don't want to read these books, either. :What's a matter, Fred? Afraid they'll challenge your world view? I don't do lots of things, Eric. Most of them I don't do because I have better things to do with my time. Sorry to hear that you apparently do not. :: :No, you read right-wing rags and shake your head in agreement, and when :: :you disagree, you write it off as left-wing media, like so many other :: :dittohead Limbots... : :: Don't look now but you're lying again. It's ok, though. We're used :: to that from you. : :We? You and that frog in your pocket? Again, you have no friends and hate :yourself. Don't look now but you're lying again. It's ok, though. We're used to that from you. :: Hint: I read fiction, technical stuff, and Usenet. : :I figured as much. No you didn't, or you wouldn't have made the stupid remark about how I "read right-wing rags". :: :: :: Loosen up the chinstrap on that tinfoil hat, Pat--it's cutting off the :: :: :: blood supply to your brain. :: :: : :: :: :Yep, just call him a conspiracy buff and move on. How establishment of :: :: :you. Thanks to dupes like, you Rand, the powers-at-be continue to rip off :: :: :all of us. :: : :: :: You're even loonier than I thought you were, El Chimpo, and that's :: :: going some. :: : :: :Yeah, and you're a stablizing force in the universe. McClod, idiots like :: :you voted Bush in office becuse of ignorance. Nothing more. : :: Yes. Idiots like me voted Bush into office because of ignorance on :: the part of those running against him and their supporters. : :Nope, the GOP propaganda machine was able to dupe more people into :thinking Kerry was a bad guy vs. Bush having any real credentials. We :deserve the leaders we elect. No you don't. You just got lucky you didn't get what you deserve. So did we, since we live in the same country with you. :: There was no other credible choice. As long as Democrats keep :: thinking (and I use the term loosely) as you do here, that will :: continue to be the case. : :Until the GOP steps in their own **** once again. When the really big **** :happens, the GOP is in office. I cite the Great Depression as reference :number 1. Nope. Even the GOP screwing up doesn't seem to be enough to help your lot. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn
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#225
June 3rd 06, 03:49 AM
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(Eric Chomko) wrote:
:Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: : :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: :: : :: :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :Fred J. McCall (aka Mclod) wrote: :: :: :: :: :: What's too bad is that folks like you are unable to realize that "I :: :: :: :: :: Hate Bush And So Should You" simply isn't a convincing argument, much :: :: :: :: :: less a good policy prescription for what you'd change. :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :I don't care if you love the guy, based upon results, he's weak... :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: And I don't care what stupid **** you believe I think, so far your :: :: :: :: only recommendation for change is pretty well non-existent. What :: :: :: :: would 'your' candidate do differently, other than be 'not George'. :: :: :: : :: :: :: :Nope, George was party to starting a war for profit. :: :: : :: :: :: You're a liar, El Chimpo. :: :: : :: :: :Attack the message, McClod, not the messenger. Exactly what part of the :: :: :message is a lie? :: : :: :: All of it. You said one sentence. It's a lie. :: : :: :: Is that not clear enough for you? :: : :: :You took the coward's way out as usual. Have you always been a wetnap? :: :Friggin wimp... : :: You lie and then insult me for pointing it out? : :What lie, Fred? You like calling others liars but fail to challenge your  wn beliefs. Maybe all these people that appear to you as liars, exist:because you're truly screwed up? You ARE the only common entity in the :eqaution, so... You made the statement "George was party to starting a war for profit". That statement is a lie. What SHOULD someone call you, if not a liar? :: Friggin' dip****... : :: :: :: :He and others of his :: :: :: :ilk talk about alternate forms of energy but do nothing about it in the :: :: :: :area that they could, like funding research. :: :: : :: :: :: That's why we're seeing hybrid vehicles and the big push to ethanol :: :: :: fuels, right? :: :: : :: :: :A token attempt. :: :: :: :: You obviously are absolutely uninformed. You have to be to think :: :: that. :: : :: :The only thing Bush has done is start the war in Iraq. : :: False statement. : :Oh, done nothing about $3 gas prices. Forgot that one. Stupid statement. It doesn't bury the stink of your usual lies. :: on't you find it a:: :little odd that he made the claim that he won't pull out the troops at all :: :for any reason? : :: No. Don't you find it a little dishonest to utter lies like that one? : :: Yes, you're lying AGAIN... : :No, Fred! Bush clearly stated that he has no intention to pull the troops ut while he is president and further than another president will have to:do it. Cite? Not for your attempted rephrase (which is also a sufficient distortion to qualify as a lie) but for your original claim that "he made the claim that he won't pull out the troops at all for any reason". I'd think that would be easy to point to if he'd ever said it. You're a liar, El Chimpo. :: :That being nearly three years before he's out of office. I :: :do. Why make a comment like that? It is obvious that the war and nothing :: :else, including different forms of energy is Bush's sole commitment. : :: Please provide a credible cite for the statement you claim was made. : :And read the actual Bush quotes: :http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...21_bush22.html It says nothing remotely like what you claim has been said. Try again, liar. :: :: :Get a Democrat in there and see what happens with hybrids :: :: :and gasohol. :: :: :: :: We had a Democrat in there for 8 years before Bush. What happened :: :: with hybrids and gasohol, El Chimpo? :: : :: :Gas was just over a buck a gallon back then. Now it's $3 a gallon. : :: Gas hit a historical high in constant dollar terms under Carter :: (another Democrat). What did HE do? : :Tried to use gasohol but was blocked. Wrong. You're lying again. :Tried to get hostages out or Iraq, :too, but was blocked. Wrong. He was inept. It's not the same thing. :Then when the deal with the hostage-takers was made :by Bush's daddy, they were freed the same day Reagan took office. The :latter is treason, BTW. Wrong. You're lying again. :: :So you :: :have a situation where we should be looking for alternate forms of energy :: :due to high gas prices but since a friend of Big Oil is in the WH nothing :: :gets done and they get richer. : :: No, we just have a situation where people like you lie. : :Translation: Fred claiming someone is a liar really means he's too :clueless to understand the situation at hand. Wrong. You're lying again. :: :: And just by the way, I'm not talking about gasohol (which we use :: :: around here and have for a long time). I'm talking about 80% ethanol :: :: fuel REPLACING gasoline as a fuel, not just 10% being used as an :: :: oxidizing agent in gasohol. :: : :: :Not with your boy in the WH... : :: Pull your head out and check the facts, El Chimpo. You're lying :: again. : :Provide a cite where Bush has done more for alternative forms of energy as :compared to what Carter tried.... See the 2005 State of the Union address. : but was overruled, mostly by bought members f your party like our current president.Wrong. You're lying again. :: :: :: Pull your head out. :: :: : :: :: :: And I note that you STILL don't answer just what your candidate would :: :: :: do differently, other than be 'not George'. :: :: : :: :: :Anyone else wouldn't pander to Big Oil as W is now doing. :: :: :: :: Don't look now but you're lying again, El Chimpo. :: : :: :Nope, right on target... : :: It's easy to hit 'targets' when you're willing to lie, as you do :: constantly. : :Fred, again, confusing me lying with his lack of knowledge and shallow :"thinking". No, I confuse your lying with your making false and misleading statements with no support and no grounding in reality. Oh, wait. That's not confusion. That's just you lying again. :: :: :: :: :: By all means, you keep it up. It pretty much guarantees that you'll :: :: :: :: :: be singing the same song in 2009 that you're singing right now, with :: :: :: :: :: only the names changed. :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :You have to get past the 2006 elections before your rhetoric has any effect. Do :: :: :: :: :you think the GOP is going to actually gain seats in Congress? If so, would you :: :: :: :: :like to bet? I take PayPal... :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: You won't be seeing George Bush replaced in 2006. If you think you :: :: :: :: will, would you like to bet? I take cash. :: :: :: : :: :: :: :You're right, he'll just be more and more of a lame duck. :: :: : :: :: :: And you and yours will become more and more birdbrained to match. :: :: : :: :: :You're the coot. :: :: :: :: And you're the coot droppings. :: : :: :And you're the insect eating coot droppings. : :: Make up your mind. You said I was the coot. : :: What are you, about 7? : :...times smarter than you... Yeah, sure. I flush better brains than you'll ever have, **** for brains. :: :: :: :: If you think George Bush's 'negative coattails' have anything to do :: :: :: :: with Congressional elections, you must have been asleep for about the :: :: :: :: last quarter century or more. :: :: :: : :: :: :: :We'll just have to wait and see. :: :: : :: :: :: Presidential 'coattails' haven't worked for at least a quarter century :: :: :: now, even in the classical positive sense during presidential election :: :: :: years. :: :: : :: :: :Explain why the GOP took over Congress in 1994. Clinton had nothing to do :: :: :with that? :: :: :: :: Nope. CONGRESS had to do with that. Take a look at Clinton's :: :: popularity in 1994. He won the Presidency again 2 years later. Can :: :: you seriously believe that the turnover in Congress was related to :: :: CLINTON? :: : :: :That's what the GOP rhetoric was in the era. Go ahead ane read what Newt :: :Gingrich said about it at the time. : :: I don't need to read it. I was around then. : :So were others in a coma... But you weren't. So you lie, instead. :: You're kidding yourself. : :: :: :: If you think 'negative coattails' are going to be a telling factor in :: :: :: an off-year election, you need to move away from the crack pipe. :: :: :: You've had enough. :: :: : :: :: :Again we'll have to wait and see. Besides I think Marrion Barry is more :: :: :your type than mine... :: :: :: :: Don't flatter yourself, El Chimpo. You don't think. :: : :: :Clearer, deeper and more thorough than you McClod. Did you even make :: :sergeant after you dropped out of high school and joined the military? : :: The Navy doesn't have sergeants and I have multiple college degrees. : :Seaman or a Chief? Keep trying. You just make yourself look stupid, but then that would seem to be your sole core competency. :: How long are you going to be in that coop job at NASA before you have :: to go back to school, El Chimpo? : :Funny you mention that as I'm getting my second technical BS degree right :now! They don't give real degrees in BS, El Chimpo. :Already have an MS in computer systems management. In other words, you don't know how to do anything. :I'll put my resume' up against yours any time, McClod. I'm sure you would. Resume inflation is alive and well and I'd bet yours REALLY blows.... :: :: :Get out of t he closet, Fred, you'll feel better about yourself. :: :: :: :: No matter how you beg, you're not my type, El Chimpo. I don't date :: :: outside the human species. :: : :: :I doubt you date as much as you stalk... : :: But then, you seem to 'doubt' most of reality. Tighten down that :: tinfoil beanie, El Chimpo.... : :You changing into an alien? Compared to you, certainly. I'm sure any human being is an alien species to whatever the hell you are. -- "He knows so little and knows it so fluently." -- Ellen Glasgow
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#226
June 3rd 06, 04:15 AM
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(Eric Chomko) wrote:
:Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: : :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: :: : :: :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: :: :: :: :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: :: :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: :: :Maybe it has to do with telling employers that they can't turn America :: :: :: :: :: :: :into Mexico, by paying people too little. :: :: :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: :: :But I know that this is too deep a concept for you... :: :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: :: There is only so much money in each business to pay labor with. Higher :: :: :: :: :: :: labor costs per hour mean some businesses (and jobs) go away. :: :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: :Not according to the Bush tax cut plan. That's the whole point of cutting :: :: :: :: :: :taxes, so jobs DON'T go away. :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: You DO realize there is no connection between your first remark and :: :: :: :: :: this one, right? :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :Wrong! The whole point of cutting taxes is so business can grow, thus more :: :: :: :: :jobs. If I'm wrong, then why cut taxes? So you and I can spend $400 more?!? :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: And the connection to forcing up minimum wages because business is :: :: :: :: "paying people too little" is? :: :: :: : :: :: :: :To give incentive for people to continue to work and not leave the country :: :: :: :for greener grass. Look at Mexico, if they DID have a minimum wage then :: :: :: :they wouldn't be crossing the border in droves to your ire. Or do you like :: :: :: :that sort of thing so as to give the unions fits? :: :: : :: :: :: Jesus, try READING THE WORDS, Eric. Let me try again. :: :: : :: :: :: What is the connection to forcing up minimum wages because business is :: :: :: "paying people too little" and tax cuts? :: :: : :: :: :Tax cuts are to boost business. :: :: :: :: Well, you got that much right. :: : :: :That is the theory anyway. : :: Yep. It's generally the reality, too. : :Are you going to claim econmics is an exact science like physics and :chemistry? Nope. You having to make **** up and pretend I've said it so you have something to argue with, again? :Social science, McClod. Trends, etc. Not pure cause and effect. Go back and read my actual words again, El Chimpo. Then ask someone to explain them to you. :: :: :Minimum wage hikes are to keep the :: :: :business owners from making much more than their workers. :: :: :: :: Got that one wrong, and stupidly wrong at that. :: : :: :Why have a minimum wage? What is the economic reason for it? : :: There is no economic reason for it. In fact, economic reasoning would :: indicate they are a BAD idea. : :****ing off the work force into sense of apatahy might not fit neatly into :your economic number scheme, but any thinking person undertands the :humanistic part of keeping you work force happy. Or do you think slavery :shoud be reinstated for economic reasons? I see you're once again making **** up and then lying to pretend I said it so you have something to argue with. Go get an education, El Chimpo. :: Minimum Wage laws are a SOCIAL policy, not an economic one. : :So what? Sociology has economic factors and reprecussions. But that doesn't make social policy "sociology". Nor does it make it "economic policy". :You're just too :dimwitted to actually see it. That is why you're a conservative and by :default at that. You didn't choose it, it chose you! Why don't you run along and learn what "sociology" is. Hint: It has nothing to do with "social policy", any more than anthropology has to do with ants. :: :: :The relationship :: :: :is indirectly related. :: : :: :: So indirectly related as to be totally disconnected. In other words, :: :: you still have not answered my question and I think you've :: :: demonstrated that this is due to an inability on your part to do so. :: :: :: :: :Also, boosting minimum wage generates more tax :: :: :revenue. :: :: :: :: How's that work, again? You're not stupidly assuming that business :: :: keep the same number of employees if they have to pay more for them, :: :: are you? :: : :: :If business is growing they do. : :: You don't make business grow by artificially increasing their costs :: for social policy purposes. : :Right, so the answer is anarchy. Oh, no? Then start with govt. and taxes :and let's see where we go from there. This is your idea of a reply? It's so sad. You don't even understand the issues under discussion, do you? :: :You're coming from a point if staying the :: :same and shrinking, not from a growing buisness, which is what the tax :: :cuts were all about in the first place. : :: It doesn't matter what you assume. If you artificially increase my :: labor costs, I will either employ fewer people and try to up their :: productivity or I will employ the same number of people and lose :: money. : :Or expand your business. With what? Your expenses were just artificially raised for the business you have. What do you expand it WITH? :Why did you leave the last option out? Because "expanding your business" isn't a magical incantation. If you expand your business you either need more of those artificially high priced workers or the ones you have need to be more productive. Mere expansion does nothing for you. :You do kno :what ROI is, right? What is done with it? Yes, I do. You do know that the 'I' stands for, right? You do understand that when costs are artificially elevated that it takes more 'I' to get a given 'R', right? Or maybe you don't. You come across pretty stupid so far, after all. :: :: :: :Hard to say where you GOPers are from time to time as you argue one point :: :: :: :against another without any clue of the cause and effect that both issues :: :: :: :share. :: :: : :: :: :: I'm right where I've always been. Your problem seems to be an :: :: :: inability to read and simply respond rather than bleating and flaming. :: :: : :: :: :You're a right winger that tends to be wrong. :: :: :: :: And yet all you manage to do is make yourself look stupid and :: :: uninformed when you aren't being outright loony. :: : :: :Says you. You're the one that argues with everyone. Do you actually have a :: :friend? Or have you chased them all away, too? : :: Yes, now there's a cogent, well-reasoned reply. : :: I argue with idiots, not everyone. You're an idiot so it seems to you :: that I argue with everyone. : :The only idiot is the one who refuses to learn. Like I said, I argue with idiots. You're an idiot, so it seems to you that I argue with everyone. :That one is you. You really think you know it all. No, I just know so much more of it than you do that it seems that way from your perspective. :: :: :You confuse being poltically :: :: :right with being correct (right, as a psychological assessment). :: :: :: :: No, I confuse being "right where I've always been" as equating to "my :: :: position remains what it has always been" rather than spinning off :: :: into whatever fantasy world you're reading it in to use other :: :: definitions of 'right'. :: : :: :What you admit to is that you're consistent with your position, which is :: ften wrong.: :: You're lying again. : :And you're backpeddling like a wimp again. Let's play horse. I'll be the front end and you be yourself. :: :IOW, you're not open and will tend to always believe what you :: :initially believe never challenging your own position and beliefs. : :: You're lying again. : :Wimp. Sorry that thinking hurts your brain. Lie and then deny. Yeah, REAL impressive, El Chimpo. :: :You :: :want to be right so badly that even when wrong you'll argue as if right :: :all along or try and change the subject to the point where the topic :: :changes. : :: You're lying again. : :Beaten too much as a child, Mclod? Perhaps you were, but it's not an excuse for lying so much. :: :We have ALL seem that charateristic in you, McClod. : :: Oh? When was the vote taken? Or do you just mean you and the turd in :: your pocket when you say 'we'? : :You use 'we' as well. No, I don't use you at all. I doubt anyone can find a real use for you. :: :I just hope :: :you learn something other than to say the other person is wrong, nuts or :: :some other aspersion of negativity that you like to cast in light of :: :actual debate. : :: Perhaps you should try engaging in 'actual debate' for a change, Eric? : :: When you're wrong I'm going to say you're wrong. When you're nuts I'm :: going to say you're nuts. I'm sorry you find the truth so painful. : :You're entitled to your own opinion, McClod. When I tell you it's :meaningless I'll simply do it. Painful? You? Surely, you jest. I'm just :waiting until the time you killfile me again so I can again declare :victory over you once again. If you think being not worth bothering with is a 'victory', you just go ahead and declare it. :Some folks are here to learn, others to teach, others neither, so they are :to either be ignored, or trifled with as a form of entertainment. The :latter is YOU, McClod. Do you speak any language that non-gibbering idiots can understand? Your post is an orgy of stultifying cacophonous verbal depravity; an exercise in literary impotence, and an offense to all of good taste and decency. :: :: Wait, that's not confusion. That's merely being correct. :: : :: :Sure whatever you say. If you're so clear and correct all the time, then :: :why all the anger? : :: What anger? Are you overestimating your own importance in the grand :: scheme of things again? : :Uh, because you do... : :If you ever met yourself it would be a really big fight. You amaze me! I didn't think it was possible for one person to possess such a vast reservoir of undiluted gibberish! Is that a conclusion or simply the place where you got tired of thinking? :: :: :Fred, your last sentence is a laughable joke, especially coming from you. :: :: :: :: Tu quoqe fallacy. Your problem still seems to be an inability to read :: :: and simply respond rather than bleating and flaming. :: : :: :Bleating and flaming? Ha, you confuse laughter and wit... : :: Nope. Laughter is what I do at you. Wit is what you lack. No :: confusion at all. : :Okay, whatwver you say... snicker And they said you were unteachable.... :: :: :: :: :: :: But I know that this is too deep a concept for you... :: :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: :No, it's you that's operating from scarcity again. Try abundance, though :: :: :: :: :: :it's a new concept for you. :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :: The only thing you seem to have an 'abundance' of is stupidity, Eric. :: :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: :But I and others keep pointing out the flaws in your "logic", so I won't be :: :: :: :: :emulating you anytime soon. :: :: :: : :: :: :: :: The only thing you ever 'point out' is your own ass, Eric. :: :: :: : :: :: :: :Not to you Fred, as I'd likely bet that when you cheat on your wife it's :: :: :: :with another man. :: :: : :: :: :: I'm divorced and no matter how much you beg I wouldn't give you a :: :: :: tumble, even if you do ever actually grow up to be a man. :: :: : :: :: :I'm not surprised you're divorced. :: :: :: :: I'm not surprised at your charm and poise. :: : :: :What comes around goes around. Why do you expect poise and charm when you :: :dish out mean spiritedness? : :: I don't from you. You continue to live down to my expectations. : ue to your low expectations. If you had high ones you'd see me that way:as well. Too bad your a half-empty-glass sort of guy. Nope. I'm the optimistic sort. I'm sure you'll make an even bigger ass of yourself, given the opportunity. :Where you get mad at liberals like me, I laugh at conservatives like you. :  Uh, El Chimpo? It's USENET, dude. Nobody sane gets mad about blithering ****ants like you. :: :Try kindness and see. : :: 'Kindness'? Is poor little Eric feeling picked upon? : :No, it is about you not me... I'm busy trying to imagine you with a personality. Maybe you'd be less boring once I got to know you, but I don't want to take that chance. Any friend of yours is a lousy judge of character. :: Try logic, reason, and fact, Eric. Start with any one of the three :: and work your way up to the combination. : :The fact that you think I don't do that says more about you than it does :about me. Yes. It says I'm a keen observer of the obvious - like your obvious deficiencies. :: o you mistake kindness with weakness? One:: :wonders... : :: Well, at least you ditched that turd in your pocket.... : :Is that how you viewed you marriage? Nope. :Maybe your spouse's view... Probably, if she ever came across you. :Why do I get the impression she's is trying to get as much out of you as  ossible?Because you're even stupider than I was giving you credit for? -- "Well, I think we ought to let him hang there. Let him twist slowly, slowly in the wind." -- John Ehrlichman
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On Sun, 14 May 2006 15:26:38 -0700, Thomas Lee Elifritz
wrote: Sex offenders, they are everywhere! ....You mean like you, you worthless, pathetic, anti-Semitic neo-Nazi trolling *******? PLONK ....Oh, and complaint filed with your ISP, complete with logs showing your Nazi sympathies. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[
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June 5th 06, 05:59 AM
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On 14 May 2006 09:55:16 -0700, wrote:
O-BORG, have you no shame? PLONK ....You know, we need to make sure these trolls are spayed *and* neutered before we send them to killfile hell. No sense giving Guth the chance to spawn down there. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[
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June 5th 06, 08:27 PM
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Fred J. McCall ) wrote:
: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : : : :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: : : :: :: :Rand Simberg ) wrote: : :: :: :: On Tue, 30 May 2006 16:13:01 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat : :: :: :: Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in : :: :: :: such a way as to indicate that: : :: :: : : :: :: :: : :: :: :: : :: :: :: Eric Chomko wrote: : :: :: :: : :: :: :: : :: :: :: Rand, he's not agreeing with me per se, he's reading the writing on the : :: :: :: wall. : :: :: :: : :: :: :: : :: :: :: BTW- Halliburton lost money under Cheney's CEOship, so maybe he's trying : :: :: :: to make up for past mistakes. : :: :: :: Here, we see Halliburton proving war is good for stock prices and other : :: :: :: growing things: : :: :: :: http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/5y/h/hal : :: :: :: When the war starts, it's at around $20 per share; at the moment it's : :: :: :: down from its $80 per share high to around $75. : :: :: : : :: :: :: Yes, obviously, that's the only reason we had a war--for Halliburton. : :: :: : : :: :: :Not just for Halliburton but others that profit from war as well. The ones : :: :: :that were able to bankroll Bush into the White House. : :: : : :: :: You mean the majority of the American people? I don't know how to : :: :: break this to you, El Chimpo, but Bush collected more in SMALL : :: :: INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS than his opponents. The idea that he (or anyone) : :: :: can be "bankrolled into the White House" by big companies is beyond : :: :: ignorant and ill-informed and well into stuck on stupid. : :: : : :: :Not big companies but a small cabal of powerful people. : : : :: For a definition of 'small' that leads to them outnumbering the : :: individual contributors giving to the Democratic candidate.... : : : :If you think the Power Elite is split down party lines, then you're as : :ignorant as ever. : Gee, it's a good thing I speak 'stupid political cliche' or I might be : confused by your spate of non sequiturs. : :: :: :PNAC, Rand, we have : :: :: :been telling you this for a few years now. Why do you continue to pretend : :: :: :not to know? : :: : : :: :: Because you say all sorts of silly tripe and support none of it. : :: : : :: :I have backed up everything I have posted. Have you ever read C. Wright : :: :Mills's book, "The Power Elite"? Anthony Sutton's, "The American : :: :Establishment"? : : : :: Nope. But then I haven't read lots of things. No doubt the same : :: thing applies to everyone. : : : :I agree there. Seems like you don't want to read these books, either. : :What's a matter, Fred? Afraid they'll challenge your world view? : I don't do lots of things, Eric. Most of them I don't do because I : have better things to do with my time. Yeah, right... : Sorry to hear that you apparently do not. Yes, you're sorry... : :: :No, you read right-wing rags and shake your head in agreement, and when : :: :you disagree, you write it off as left-wing media, like so many other : :: :dittohead Limbots... : : : :: Don't look now but you're lying again. It's ok, though. We're used : :: to that from you. : : : :We? You and that frog in your pocket? Again, you have no friends and hate : :yourself. : Don't look now but you're lying again. It's ok, though. We're used : to that from you. : :: Hint: I read fiction, technical stuff, and Usenet. : : : :I figured as much. : No you didn't, or you wouldn't have made the stupid remark about how I : "read right-wing rags". : :: :: :: Loosen up the chinstrap on that tinfoil hat, Pat--it's cutting off the : :: :: :: blood supply to your brain. : :: :: : : :: :: :Yep, just call him a conspiracy buff and move on. How establishment of : :: :: :you. Thanks to dupes like, you Rand, the powers-at-be continue to rip off : :: :: :all of us. : :: : : :: :: You're even loonier than I thought you were, El Chimpo, and that's : :: :: going some. : :: : : :: :Yeah, and you're a stablizing force in the universe. McClod, idiots like : :: :you voted Bush in office becuse of ignorance. Nothing more. : : : :: Yes. Idiots like me voted Bush into office because of ignorance on : :: the part of those running against him and their supporters. : : : :Nope, the GOP propaganda machine was able to dupe more people into : :thinking Kerry was a bad guy vs. Bush having any real credentials. We : :deserve the leaders we elect. : No you don't. You just got lucky you didn't get what you deserve. So : did we, since we live in the same country with you. Too bad you're from another planet. : :: There was no other credible choice. As long as Democrats keep : :: thinking (and I use the term loosely) as you do here, that will : :: continue to be the case. : : : :Until the GOP steps in their own **** once again. When the really big **** : :happens, the GOP is in office. I cite the Great Depression as reference : :number 1. : Nope. Even the GOP screwing up doesn't seem to be enough to help your : lot. It has in the past and will again in the future. Eric : -- : "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar : territory." : --G. Behn
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June 5th 06, 08:42 PM
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Fred J. McCall ) wrote:
: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : : : :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: : : :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: :: : : :: :: :: :Fred J. McCall ) wrote: : :: :: :: :: (Eric Chomko) wrote: : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :Fred J. McCall (aka Mclod) wrote: : :: :: :: :: :: What's too bad is that folks like you are unable to realize that "I : :: :: :: :: :: Hate Bush And So Should You" simply isn't a convincing argument, much : :: :: :: :: :: less a good policy prescription for what you'd change. : :: :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :: :I don't care if you love the guy, based upon results, he's weak... : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :: And I don't care what stupid **** you believe I think, so far your : :: :: :: :: only recommendation for change is pretty well non-existent. What : :: :: :: :: would 'your' candidate do differently, other than be 'not George'. : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :Nope, George was party to starting a war for profit. : :: :: : : :: :: :: You're a liar, El Chimpo. : :: :: : : :: :: :Attack the message, McClod, not the messenger. Exactly what part of the : :: :: :message is a lie? : :: : : :: :: All of it. You said one sentence. It's a lie. : :: : : :: :: Is that not clear enough for you? : :: : : :: :You took the coward's way out as usual. Have you always been a wetnap? : :: :Friggin wimp... : : : :: You lie and then insult me for pointing it out? : : : :What lie, Fred? You like calling others liars but fail to challenge your : wn beliefs. Maybe all these people that appear to you as liars, exist: :because you're truly screwed up? You ARE the only common entity in the : :eqaution, so... : You made the statement "George was party to starting a war for : profit". That statement is a lie. What SHOULD someone call you, if : not a liar? It isn't a lie. It is the truth. What we don't know is if outting a CIA worker to spite her husband was done as a means to get back at him for not playing along with the White House's scheme to make Saddam Hussien look like he was trying to buy uranium. We'll find that out next spring when Scooter Libby takes the stand. : :: Friggin' dip****... : : : :: :: :: :He and others of his : :: :: :: :ilk talk about alternate forms of energy but do nothing about it in the : :: :: :: :area that they could, like funding research. : :: :: : : :: :: :: That's why we're seeing hybrid vehicles and the big push to ethanol : :: :: :: fuels, right? : :: :: : : :: :: :A token attempt. : :: :: : :: :: You obviously are absolutely uninformed. You have to be to think : :: :: that. : :: : : :: :The only thing Bush has done is start the war in Iraq. : : : :: False statement. : : : :Oh, done nothing about $3 gas prices. Forgot that one. : Stupid statement. It doesn't bury the stink of your usual lies. : :: on't you find it a: :: :little odd that he made the claim that he won't pull out the troops at all : :: :for any reason? : : : :: No. Don't you find it a little dishonest to utter lies like that one? : : : :: Yes, you're lying AGAIN... : : : :No, Fred! Bush clearly stated that he has no intention to pull the troops : ut while he is president and further than another president will have to: :do it. : Cite? Not for your attempted rephrase (which is also a sufficient : distortion to qualify as a lie) but for your original claim that "he : made the claim that he won't pull out the troops at all for any : reason". ...the decision will be for future leaders (in Iraq and America) toi decide. : I'd think that would be easy to point to if he'd ever said it. : You're a liar, El Chimpo. Fred, You call anyone a liar when they point out a truth that hurts you. It is yet another one of your childish traits. "Liar, liar, pants on fire." (LLPOF). You and Guth... hahahahaha : :: :That being nearly three years before he's out of office. I : :: :do. Why make a comment like that? It is obvious that the war and nothing : :: :else, including different forms of energy is Bush's sole commitment. : : : :: Please provide a credible cite for the statement you claim was made. : : : :And read the actual Bush quotes: : :http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...21_bush22.html : It says nothing remotely like what you claim has been said. Try : again, liar. Bull****! You read it. This part: 'Asked at a White House news conference whether there will come a time no U.S. forces are in Iraq, he said, "That will be decided by future presidents and future governments of Iraq."' Remote? He's unwilling to even consider a timetable. That means the troops are there until his successor pulls them out! And he stated it nearly 3 years before he leaves office. : :: :: :Get a Democrat in there and see what happens with hybrids : :: :: :and gasohol. : :: :: : :: :: We had a Democrat in there for 8 years before Bush. What happened : :: :: with hybrids and gasohol, El Chimpo? : :: : : :: :Gas was just over a buck a gallon back then. Now it's $3 a gallon. : : : :: Gas hit a historical high in constant dollar terms under Carter : :: (another Democrat). What did HE do? : : : :Tried to use gasohol but was blocked. : Wrong. You're lying again. Ok, why didn't gasohol take off like Carter wanted back in the late 70s? : :Tried to get hostages out or Iraq, : :too, but was blocked. : Wrong. He was inept. It's not the same thing. False. We was working against a team of Republicans working under the table with the Iranians. : :Then when the deal with the hostage-takers was made : :by Bush's daddy, they were freed the same day Reagan took office. The : :latter is treason, BTW. : Wrong. You're lying again. Says you. Truth hurts doesn't it McClod? You were in the Navy, did you spend your entire stint with your head up your butt? : :: :So you : :: :have a situation where we should be looking for alternate forms of energy : :: :due to high gas prices but since a friend of Big Oil is in the WH nothing : :: :gets done and they get richer. : : : :: No, we just have a situation where people like you lie. : : : :Translation: Fred claiming someone is a liar really means he's too : :clueless to understand the situation at hand. : Wrong. You're lying again. LLPOF!!!! : :: :: And just by the way, I'm not talking about gasohol (which we use : :: :: around here and have for a long time). I'm talking about 80% ethanol : :: :: fuel REPLACING gasoline as a fuel, not just 10% being used as an : :: :: oxidizing agent in gasohol. : :: : : :: :Not with your boy in the WH... : : : :: Pull your head out and check the facts, El Chimpo. You're lying : :: again. : : : :Provide a cite where Bush has done more for alternative forms of energy as : :compared to what Carter tried.... : See the 2005 State of the Union address. Now THOSE were lies... : : but was overruled, mostly by bought members : f your party like our current president.: Wrong. You're lying again. : :: :: :: Pull your head out. : :: :: : : :: :: :: And I note that you STILL don't answer just what your candidate would : :: :: :: do differently, other than be 'not George'. : :: :: : : :: :: :Anyone else wouldn't pander to Big Oil as W is now doing. : :: :: : :: :: Don't look now but you're lying again, El Chimpo. : :: : : :: :Nope, right on target... : : : :: It's easy to hit 'targets' when you're willing to lie, as you do : :: constantly. : : : :Fred, again, confusing me lying with his lack of knowledge and shallow : :"thinking". : No, I confuse your lying with your making false and misleading : statements with no support and no grounding in reality. : Oh, wait. That's not confusion. That's just you lying again. yawn : :: :: :: :: :: By all means, you keep it up. It pretty much guarantees that you'll : :: :: :: :: :: be singing the same song in 2009 that you're singing right now, with : :: :: :: :: :: only the names changed. : :: :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :: :You have to get past the 2006 elections before your rhetoric has any effect. Do : :: :: :: :: :you think the GOP is going to actually gain seats in Congress? If so, would you : :: :: :: :: :like to bet? I take PayPal... : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :: You won't be seeing George Bush replaced in 2006. If you think you : :: :: :: :: will, would you like to bet? I take cash. : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :You're right, he'll just be more and more of a lame duck. : :: :: : : :: :: :: And you and yours will become more and more birdbrained to match. : :: :: : : :: :: :You're the coot. : :: :: : :: :: And you're the coot droppings. : :: : : :: :And you're the insect eating coot droppings. : : : :: Make up your mind. You said I was the coot. : : : :: What are you, about 7? : : : :...times smarter than you... : Yeah, sure. I flush better brains than you'll ever have, **** for : brains. Too bad your life formula has produce a bitter old man. : :: :: :: :: If you think George Bush's 'negative coattails' have anything to do : :: :: :: :: with Congressional elections, you must have been asleep for about the : :: :: :: :: last quarter century or more. : :: :: :: : : :: :: :: :We'll just have to wait and see. : :: :: : : :: :: :: Presidential 'coattails' haven't worked for at least a quarter century : :: :: :: now, even in the classical positive sense during presidential election : :: :: :: years. : :: :: : : :: :: :Explain why the GOP took over Congress in 1994. Clinton had nothing to do : :: :: :with that? : :: :: : :: :: Nope. CONGRESS had to do with that. Take a look at Clinton's : :: :: popularity in 1994. He won the Presidency again 2 years later. Can : :: :: you seriously believe that the turnover in Congress was related to : :: :: CLINTON? : :: : : :: :That's what the GOP rhetoric was in the era. Go ahead ane read what Newt : :: :Gingrich said about it at the time. : : : :: I don't need to read it. I was around then. : : : :So were others in a coma... : But you weren't. So you lie, instead. : :: You're kidding yourself. : : : :: :: :: If you think 'negative coattails' are going to be a telling factor in : :: :: :: an off-year election, you need to move away from the crack pipe. : :: :: :: You've had enough. : :: :: : : :: :: :Again we'll have to wait and see. Besides I think Marrion Barry is more : :: :: :your type than mine... : :: :: : :: :: Don't flatter yourself, El Chimpo. You don't think. : :: : : :: :Clearer, deeper and more thorough than you McClod. Did you even make : :: :sergeant after you dropped out of high school and joined the military? : : : :: The Navy doesn't have sergeants and I have multiple college degrees. : : : :Seaman or a Chief? : Keep trying. You just make yourself look stupid, but then that would : seem to be your sole core competency. : :: How long are you going to be in that coop job at NASA before you have : :: to go back to school, El Chimpo? : : : :Funny you mention that as I'm getting my second technical BS degree right : :now! : They don't give real degrees in BS, El Chimpo. Bachelor of Science, but you knew that. : :Already have an MS in computer systems management. : In other words, you don't know how to do anything. If that is the case then you're actually negatively inclined. : :I'll put my resume' up against yours any time, McClod. : I'm sure you would. Resume inflation is alive and well and I'd bet : yours REALLY blows.... ....yours away. : :: :: :Get out of t he closet, Fred, you'll feel better about yourself. : :: :: : :: :: No matter how you beg, you're not my type, El Chimpo. I don't date : :: :: outside the human species. : :: : : :: :I doubt you date as much as you stalk... : : : :: But then, you seem to 'doubt' most of reality. Tighten down that : :: tinfoil beanie, El Chimpo.... : : : :You changing into an alien? : Compared to you, certainly. I'm sure any human being is an alien : species to whatever the hell you are. Poor McClod, poke a stick at him and he barks like a scared dog. It really must be tough being you. Eric : -- : "He knows so little and knows it so fluently." : -- Ellen Glasgow
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