What if HSF ended in 1975?

"Jorge R. Frank" wrote:
Likewise, you have utterly failed to convince me of your position that the
two programs are "not at all" in sync, and that the current situation could
not possibly get any worse, has any merit whatsoever.

Unmanned Mars missions current or planned that have any significant
bearing on, or provide any support for, or a precursor to manned Mars
missions.

Zero.

An external agency, absent any HSF motivation, would likely decide
that the scientific value of other targets much less amenable to human
visitation would take priority.

And why shouldn't they?

Thus proving my point that there is considerable room for the situation to
get worse, vis-a-vis the robotic and human spaceflight programs being in
sync.

Given that there utterly no relationship at all between the programs
now, there is no way the situation can get worse. If you have
evidence or beliefs otherwise, feel free to air them here.

Look, there's plenty of gray area between the two extreme positions, and
insufficient evidence to support either view. I suggest we agree to
disagree at this point.

Interesting. You consistently challenge my view, ask for my evidence,
and utterly refuse to produce the same your view. Then you want to
call the whole thing off without actually adressing any of the points
I raise.

Jorge I expected better than this kind of handwaving from you.

D.
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Brian Thorn wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 02:11:38 GMT, (Derek
Lyons) wrote:

Guess what? Save only a couple of the orbiter, you could lose those
probes and a manned mission would be virtually unaffected.

You just agreed that there is *some* linkage ("a couple of the
orbiters"), which is all it takes to invalidate your argument.

To the simpleminded, yes.

Those that understand that the same probes required to target manned
missions are those required to support unmanned missions, it is quite
obvious that the linkage is tenuous at best.

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