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Old March 14th 06, 10:03 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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I see that Google have now added an interactive map of Mars
http://www.google.com/mars/

So now there's the Earth, Mars and Moon (http://moon.google.com/)

Does anyone fancy collaborating on producing the equivalent for other
bodies? We might be able to beat Google to Mercury or Europa or
something.

I can handle the Javascript programming. It's technically very similar
to what I've done he
http://www.econym.demon.co.uk/google...tommapnice.htm

So that leaves two main jobs:

Finding high resolution public domain images that can be cut up to make
the map tiles. So far I've only found suitable PD maps for places that
Google have already been.

Providing webhosting. I'm pretty close to my webspace and bandwidth
limits on all my current webhosts, and maps like this require quite a
bit of both.

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Old March 14th 06, 11:57 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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"Mike Williams" wrote in message
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I see that Google have now added an interactive map of Mars
http://www.google.com/mars/

So now there's the Earth, Mars and Moon (http://moon.google.com/)

Does anyone fancy collaborating on producing the equivalent for other
bodies? We might be able to beat Google to Mercury or Europa or
something.


Might it be possible to do something on Eros from the NEAR mission?
http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/archive.html
using this as the start point
http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/20001024a/index.html

I don't have any webspace though

Robin


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Old March 14th 06, 12:20 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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Wasn't it Robin Leadbeater who wrote:

"Mike Williams" wrote in message
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I see that Google have now added an interactive map of Mars
http://www.google.com/mars/

So now there's the Earth, Mars and Moon (http://moon.google.com/)

Does anyone fancy collaborating on producing the equivalent for other
bodies? We might be able to beat Google to Mercury or Europa or
something.


Might it be possible to do something on Eros from the NEAR mission?
http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/archive.html
using this as the start point
http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/20001024a/index.html


It looks like it would be an awful lot of work to identify the locations
an orientations of those images.

Are you sure that the images are public domain? I can't see any
indication of that.

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Old March 15th 06, 02:25 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:03:50 +0000, Mike Williams
wrote:

I see that Google have now added an interactive map of Mars
http://www.google.com/mars/


mmm I see no maps !?

I'm using Netscape 7.2... I even risked IE 6...

Reddog.
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Old March 15th 06, 05:48 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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Wasn't it Reddog who wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:03:50 +0000, Mike Williams
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I see that Google have now added an interactive map of Mars
http://www.google.com/mars/


mmm I see no maps !?

I'm using Netscape 7.2... I even risked IE 6...


So you've eliminated two possibilities for the cause of the problem.
Both those browsers are compatible with the Google Map engine that runs
Google Mars, and IE6 doesn't have the option to switch off third-party
images (a common problem with Firefox/Mozilla because the browser
doesn't recognise the map tile server (kh.google.com) as being the same
as the main website (www.google.com)).

Do you see the page, and are just missing the images?
Does the same thing happen at http://maps.google.com/ in "satellite"
mode?

If so, you could have dodgy proxy/router/HOSTS settings. Try accessing
one of the map tiles directly. Sometimes whatever is causing the problem
will display a useful error message when asked to fetch the image
directly.

Here's such a tile:
http://kh.google.com/movl?ov=52&t=ttqr

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Old March 15th 06, 11:08 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:48:01 +0000, in uk.sci.astronomy , Mike
Williams wrote:

images (a common problem with Firefox/Mozilla because the browser
doesn't recognise the map tile server (kh.google.com) as being the same
as the main website (www.google.com)).


Works fine for me with both IE6 and Firefox 1.5.
Mark McIntyre
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Old March 16th 06, 11:11 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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A bit more info:

I am not using a proxy on my home lan, their is just a router sharing
the boroad band connection etc.

http://kh.google.com/movl?ov=52&t=ttqr
works in both browsers.

http://www.google.com/mars/
NS: google banner across the top with three 'buttons' on the right
labeled Elevation, Visible, Infrared and an elevation scale along the
bottom left hand side of the screen, the rest is a blank grey.
IE6: I get the above BUT no 'buttons or elevation scale.

http://maps.google.com/
NS : Google banner across the top, text 'example searchs' etc along
left hand side and a large blank grey area on the right with overlaid
'buttons' Map, Satellite, Hybrid.
IE6: The above page 'flicks' into view rapidly followed by IE6
presenting http://maps.google.com/?output=html . If I enter
"London Waterloo UK England" [anything less gives some place in the
USA] I seem to get a working map that I can zoom with adverts to the
left.

So If I then enter http://maps.google.com/?output=html in NS, I get
thesearch page and by entering "London Waterloo UK England" I get to
the same page as above in NS.

Seems like some 'front end' scripts are not working correctly in NS /
IE6 on my installation, but once 'past them' the service works -
but not http://www.google.com/mars/ !!

Unlike the IE6 page, the NS page of http://www.google.com/mars/ does
respond to clicking Mountains, Canyons etc and I end up with lists of
features along the left hand side, if one is clicked ie
Mountains - Arsia Mons Mosaic, I get a 'moving info dialog' appear
form the right hand side with 'Article: Arsia Mons Mosac' along its
top, some info and a small mars image on it. The main page under it
is still a blank grey. Clicking on the image or article link
transfers to http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20050613A.

In summary IE6 no dice, NS some dice but no maps!


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Old March 16th 06, 01:07 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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Wasn't it Reddog who wrote:
A bit more info:


OK. One thing that's clear is that your whole Javascript implementation
is dead.

maps.google.com is supposed to detect situations where Javascript is not
implemented or has been switched off, and divert you to a non-
interactive version of the system with virtually no features
http://maps.google.com/?output=html

I don't know why you don't get diverted to ?output=html in NS.

It looks like the Google Mars people forgot to consider that people
might have no Javascript. Without Javascript it just displays the header
and says "Loading Mars Maps...".

It looks like you have some other things going on, but without
Javascript you're not going to be able to get much further.

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Old March 16th 06, 07:37 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
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Mike Williams wrote:

It looks like the Google Mars people forgot to consider that people
might have no Javascript.


I haven't tried much recently, but last time I did it appeared that the
Google people for most of the Google applications seemed to have
forgotten that not everyone runs XP.

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