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http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_roo..._02_22_06.html
Status Report: MESSENGER Lines Up for Venus Flyby February 22, 2006 MESSENGER trajectory correction maneuver 10 (TCM 10) lasted just over two minutes and adjusted its velocity by about 1.4 meters per second (4.6 feet per second). The short-duration maneuver placed the spacecraft on track for its next major mission event: the first Venus flyby on October 24, 2006. Having completed six successful small TCMs that utilized all 17 of the spacecraft's thrusters, this latest maneuver was the first to rely on the four B-side thrusters. During this maneuver, the thrusters on the opposite side of the spacecraft reduced a build-up of angular momentum due to an unseen force that causes the spacecraft to rotate if left uncorrected. (This maneuver was only the seventh actual TCM for MESSENGER; the spacecraft's trajectory was so close to optimal after TCM 3 and TCM 6 that planned TCMs 4, 7 and 8 weren't necessary.) Today's maneuver started at 11 a.m. EST; mission controllers at The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) in Laurel, Maryland, verified the start of the maneuver within 11 minutes and 48 seconds, when the first signals indicating spacecraft thruster activity reached NASA's Deep Space Network tracking station outside Goldstone, California. At the start of the maneuver, the spacecraft was 132 million miles (212 million kilometers) from Earth and 83 million miles (133 million kilometers) from the Sun, speeding around the Sun at 68,163 miles (109,698 kilometers) per hour. For graphics of MESSENGER's orientation during the maneuver, visit the "Trajectory Correction Maneuvers" section of http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/the_miss...on_design.html. Earth Flyby Image Gallery Now Online MESSENGER's Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS) acquired spectacular images during the Earth flyby in August 2005, including a "film" of our home planet as it receded in the distance. Now, you can browse through the best of the MDIS flyby frames on the MESSENGER Web site! Visit the MDIS Earth Flyby gallery at http://cps.earth.northwestern.edu/MESSENGER_20050802/. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury, and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on Aug. 3, 2004, and after flybys of Earth, Venus and Mercury will start a yearlong study of its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as principal investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages the Discovery-class mission for NASA. |
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baa,
That's rather odd. There's absolutely zero interest in this spendy mission. Perhaps that's because both of it's CCD cameras are broken, as in having worse off DR than common film. Too bad that it's of no use for Earth-science, of having been of no use for moon-science, and obviously worthless for anything of Venus-science. Just for getting better science and terrific images of reestablishing much of what we already know about Mercury. - Brad Guth |
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bba,
It seems their fancy dancy CCDs (of the very best our moneys could buy at the time) along with those more so spendy and subsequently terrific optics w/optional spectrum filters for one of the two cameras are actually not very good at all. After all folks, from an ideal vantage point of being fully capable of having imaged Earth along with our moon as recorded within the same frame, or even of having provided individual frames using the exact same camera, lens and exposure that any two-bit PhotoShop could combined into a true to life side by side look-see, it seems that of whatever fell below the worth of 10% albedo simply didn't record hardly at all, yet above that threshold it seemed perfectly fine and dandy. In fact, of individual pixels exceeding much greater than 75% albedo (such as Venus) seemed to have also been diminished if not also missing in action. I'd have to say, that's offering pretty crapy dynamic range. Therefore, we have thus far obtained those terrific pastel images of mother Earth, that which a good dosage of PhotoShop can greatly improve upon the information, but we're pretty much stuck whatever the limited DR worth of information that we had to start with. Apparently the typically dark brownish and in places somewhat deep bluish elements of moon that's somewhat basalt dark and nasty as perhaps a chunk of carbon/soot covered coal might tend to look, whereas such the level of 7.5% albedo simply wasn't even there to behold. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages the Discovery-class mission for NASA. Hopefully by the time our spendy MESSENGER gets into orbiting Mercury, that somehow those defective CCD cameras and of their poorly performing optics will have been magically corrected. - Brad Guth |
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Brad, did you notice all the new activity regarding Venus since I
posted over a year ago "LIFE ON VENUS". It's the NASA intelligence operatives on their spook detail monitoring USENET to counter anyone that figures out the truths they want to keep covered up. These USENET newsgroups are fully monitored by assembled teams of intelligence experts from NASA, so they can negate anyone such as me, or even you, from spreading the truth by seeing through their lies. Even the photos that exist of Venus, are probably not Venus. If they were, when & how did they get through the cloud cover, and why in those photos were there no clouds? See how they're derelicts at lying. The best NASA intelligence operatives, are derelicts. hahaha..... Brad Guth wrote: baa, That's rather odd. There's absolutely zero interest in this spendy mission. Perhaps that's because both of it's CCD cameras are broken, as in having worse off DR than common film. Too bad that it's of no use for Earth-science, of having been of no use for moon-science, and obviously worthless for anything of Venus-science. Just for getting better science and terrific images of reestablishing much of what we already know about Mercury. - Brad Guth |
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GARTINsux; Even the photos that exist of Venus, are probably not Venus.
If they were, when & how did they get through the cloud cover, and why in those photos were there no clouds? See how they're derelicts at lying. The best NASA intelligence operatives, are derelicts. I tend to believe that such radar imaging was a done deal. There's sufficient proof-positive that our NSA/CIA--DoD had that capability and at least at the time there was nothing of Venus that was per say cloak and dagger or otherwise connected to our mutually perpetrated cold war, that which had everything to do with those bogus Apollo moon missions. Trust me, those were images of Venus. At least the Magellan/SAR method isn't of what's in question unless you've got some hard-science or other info that'll suggest we didn't quite have that imaging technology at the time. If you'd like to question upon something, stick with questioning those rather unusually xenon lamp illuminated Apollo EVAs, as their unfiltered Kodak film recorded what's not of our lunar terrain, but of what somewhat looks as though a lunar terrain. Unfortunately, those Kodak moments are so terribly unskewed and/or moderated that it's hard to say exactly where upon Earth such images were obtained, other than for certain they weren't as such situated upon that extremely dark and nasty plus reactive moon that would have somewhat badly skewed such unfiltered images. If you'd like more radar imaging history and/or expertise, I'll see what I can do. I'll take another look-see at your "LIFE ON VENUS" topic. - Brad Guth |
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GARTINsux,
MESSENGER is simply yet another wag-thy-dog and snooker-thy-humanity worth of a mission, proving that conditional physics of photons applies as always, as to having selectively imaged our naked Earth within such a highly limited DR, except for the matter of fact that it should have been easily imaged along with numerous other objects that would have and most certainly should have been recorded within the same frame, and thereby at the very same CCD scan/exposure, especially on behalf of having included an honest look-see at our very own dark and nasty moon as for MESSENGER coming back towards or upon leaving Earth on it's way to Mercury. Even via an exact same exposure of just taking an image of our nearby moon all by itself, which any damn fool could then photoshop into a side-by-side honestly undistorted and unfiltered or same color spectrum bandpass of a look-see should have been accomplished. - Brad Guth |
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![]() Brad Guth wrote: GARTINsux, MESSENGER is simply yet another wag-thy-dog and snooker-thy-humanity worth of a mission, proving that conditional physics of photons applies as always, as to having selectively imaged our naked Earth within such a highly limited DR, except for the matter of fact that it should have been easily imaged along with numerous other objects that would have and most certainly should have been recorded within the same frame, and thereby at the very same CCD scan/exposure, especially on behalf of having included an honest look-see at our very own dark and nasty moon as for MESSENGER coming back towards or upon leaving Earth on it's way to Mercury. Even via an exact same exposure of just taking an image of our nearby moon all by itself, which any damn fool could then photoshop into a side-by-side honestly undistorted and unfiltered or same color spectrum bandpass of a look-see should have been accomplished. - Brad Guth Well a couple of questions arise. You say they've "imaged" Earth, Venus, & so on. How do we know what planet they really imaged, when they're saying they're feeding us a picture of Venus? How do we know that they didn't image Earth, and then tell us it was Venus? Do you believe personally that there is life on Venus? Thanks,.. |
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LIBERATOR;
Well a couple of questions arise. You say they've "imaged" Earth, Venus, & so on. How do we know what planet they really imaged, when they're saying they're feeding us a picture of Venus? That's a good point, as well as how do we know this Earth is our home world? Just because we're born here doesn't prove that Earth is our natural home world. I have no independent proof-positive those images from the Magellan mission are any more so of Venus than those supposed NASA/Apollo EVA images are of those images supposedly obtained while situated upon the surface of our moon. Although, at least the laws of photon physics as proven by the hard-science of Kodak and therefore I too can quite easily prove those NASA/Apollo EVA images are bogus. However, I can't hardly imagine the motives or any other fuzzy logic for the vast archive of those radar images of 75 m/pixel not being those of Venus. How do we know that they didn't image Earth, and then tell us it was Venus? We have similar SAR images of Earth, some of which obtained by the very same class of radar imaging instrument and lo and behold, Earth doesn't look nearly the same, especially of the vast expanse that's water, of which radar imaging typically depicts water as being recorded as a nearly zero signal that's usually transfered into GIF format depicted as black is pretty much a dead give away. Do you believe personally that there is life on Venus? From what little I've learned of regular laws of physics, of extremophile and regular biology and from the best available soft and hard-science known about Venus, if that were reasonably added in support of my subjective interpretation of what the primary image has been telling us, that which I've pointed out for 6+ years as indicating what's most likely intelligent/artificial, as such I'd have to say YES! I personally believe there has been and that there's a damn good and perfectly rational chance there still is other intelligent life on Venus. This doesn't represent that such other life is strictly derived from the original evolutionary process. Though natural evolution is entirely possible and certainly capable of having adapted to the existing situation, I tend to favor the imported form of intelligent other life (aka ETs) as simply going about doing their thing, just exactly like we'd be doing if we could. What I'm suggesting is that in addition to uncovering the likes of extremophiles or perhaps barely heathen status is that we'll have discovered a little of both being the case, with Venusian locals and visiting ETs somewhat working the easily available resources for the better good and benefit of each species that has an established nitch of existence to hold onto. What I need is a little sharing of the talents and resources of others that'll help to refine and focus our best efforts upon achieving the best possible results from the next missions to Venus. For starters, I'd like to get the VL2-TRACE platform into it's station-keeping duties as soon as possible. - Brad Guth |
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GARTINsux,
Those thick clouds of Venus are in fact helping to reflect the bulk of solar energy, thus helping to keep the relative cool of that planet by day, and otherwise helping to conduct and radiate heat away by night. The quick moving upper atmosphere is actually performing as a good btu scrubbing heat-exchanger agent that's helping quite nicely to transfer and thus extract surplus energy. The best available IR science we've got to work with is telling us that roughly 15% more thermal energy is leaving Venus by night than is solar contributed by day. Venus EXPRESS is soon going to nail that measurement far better off than anything that'll be obtained by the MESSENGER flyby. Therefore, very little of the solar influx contributes to the ongoing geothermal situation at hand. As to that other intelligent life on Venus could turn out being somewhat human like, but my bottom dollar is on the side of the exoskeletal evolution, along with a mix of whatever's ET worthy. Such other life on Venus could certainly be on the extra large size, though not in great numbers. - Brad Guth |
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GARTINsux,
Those thick and complex layered clouds of Venus are in fact of what's helping to reflect the bulk of solar energy, thus helping to keep the relative cool of that planet by day, and otherwise helping to conduct and ultimately radiate the surplus of heat away by night. The quick moving upper atmosphere is actually performing as a good scrubbing heat-exchanger agent that's performing quite nicely to transfer and thus extract surplus energy. The best available IR science we've got to work with has been telling us that roughly 15% more thermal energy is leaving Venus by night than is solar contributed by day. Venus EXPRESS mission is soon going to nail that measurement far better off than anything that'll be obtained by the MESSENGER flyby. Therefore, many researchers are convinced that little of the solar influx contributes to the ongoing geothermal situation at hand. It's mostly a geothermal consideration and otherwise terrestrial generated atmospheric environment that's only partially contributed to by the solar influx. This represents that Venus has not been within thermal balance nor is it getting hotter. As to what I'd consider on behalf of that other intelligent life as having existed/coexisted on Venus could turn out being somewhat human like, however my bottom dollar from what my SWAG is suggesting is on the side of the exoskeletal evolution, along with a mix of whatever's ET worthy. Such other life on Venus could certainly be on the extra large size, though not in great numbers. Those continually opposed to such notions as having been supported by a terrific radar image, that represents way better imaging authority than anything else on the table, are those opposed to any other forms of life, and if at all possible that's including their opposition to all other forms of life on Earth except for their own, as strictly limited to their biased infomercial-science and of their conditional laws of physics. - Brad Guth |
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