Brad Guth's Credentials

Wow! I see that your bed-partner's topic has hit the 500 mark. Seems
that alone ott to be worth at least 5 stars. As I've said before, I do
exist, my interpretations as to what's what about Venus are more than
documented, and even the ongoing weirdness about our moon that hasn't
been walked upon is within the credentials of the regular laws of
physics plus hard-science which so happens to include rocket-science
that can and has been replicated to show that the original Saturn-V
didn't quite get the job accomplished as reported.

The fact that you couldn't locate any scientific venue of
"observationology" is proof again that I'm sufficiently right until
others demonstrate otherwise. If I say it's white and you intend to
keep saying it's black (even though it obviously isn't black), then
what's the point of pursuing any scientific discipline, especially of
those where the usage of eyes and the attached brain is disallowed.

In which case I'll contribute the following interpretation of my Usenet
observation:
Dear usenet spooks, moles and/or wantabe MIBs, the likes of "Me",
"Secret237", "bob232", "Eric Chomko", "Robert Juliano", "Orval
Fairbairn" and as always the warm and fuzzyness of good old but not so
fat anymore "David Bacque", and perhaps even "William Mook" as our
official CIA World Fact Book expertise and otherwise sufficently wordy
naysayer. Do us common folk (apparent scum of the Earth) the greater
good on behalf of humanity by way of providing us with a seriously
big-ass favor, by way of yourself and each of your brown-nosed kind
going all the way to hell, and then some.

Thus far, within this or for that matter most any other Usenet topic
that rubs our NASA or most any agency of our government the wrong way,
it seems perfectly clear that you folks haven't contributed
specifically, or rather not so much as having contributed squat, and
you obviously have no moral intentions of making any revisions in such
actions of your NASA/Apollo approved and scripted intellectual as well
as biological incest, of your intent of going for global domination
without a stitch of remorse at any price, at least not per say of
altering course any time soon, especially when there's still a few
Muslims or anyone else sitting on oil, to get rid of.

Yourself and a pathetically long list of so many others more than
deserve one another's brown-nose to butt interface of being within your
own incest tight circle of a mutated DNA genome that's been directly
related to Hitler, or much worse being related to that of our resident
warlord(GW Bush), whereas you're acting and/or badly reacting as though
exactly like you're one and the same borg collective that badly needs
to get placed upon a stick, exactly how your kind of LLPOF born-again
pagans managed to get that accomplished by way of those nice Romans
(aka partners in crimes against humanity), for the task of eliminating
the pesky likes of Jesus Christ, and/or of how a Pope that was going
seriously postal over those nice Cathars, accomplished one better.

Please do tell; besides your previous and ongoing actions and the
efforts of those you obviously admire for getting the artificial value
of oil headed for $1000/barrel, and thus all other forms of energy
spiked. Is perchance WW-III next on your collective agenda?
-
Brad Guth

"Brad Guth" wrote in message oups.com...

Dear usenet spooks, moles and/or wantabe MIBs, the likes of "Me",
"Secret237", "bob232", "Eric Chomko", "Robert Juliano", "Orval
Fairbairn" and as always the warm and fuzzyness of good old but not so
fat anymore "David Bacque", and perhaps even "William Mook"

BAM! Lookitthat, suckas! I am DA TOP MAN on kook-bat's paranoia
****list! Numero Uno! In your FACE, posers! You be OWNED!

p.s. Brad, do you think anyone ever reads your psychotic tomes? Besides
me, I mean - and I only read them to count the number of times you mention
butts, feces, and other examples of your repressed, incestual, homoerotic
obsessions. I counted 8 this post. Ta!

Me wrote:

BAM! Lookitthat, suckas! I am DA TOP MAN on kook-bat's paranoia
****list! Numero Uno! In your FACE, posers! You be OWNED!


I didn't even rank apparently...how far I have dropped from my former
days of grandeur as an incest-cloned Borg. :-(

Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message ...

I didn't even rank apparently...how far I have dropped from my former days of grandeur as an incest-cloned Borg. :-(

It's nobody's fault but your own, Pat. You haven't been to any Third-Reich New-World-Order MIB
meetings in over a year, and you NEVER come to any incest-cloned Borg parties anymore either.
Why, I bet your nose isn't even brown anymore!

p.s. I'm going to increase the mind-control beam into Guthy's house by 8dB tonight while
he's asleep. We have a couple of hours alien abduction experiences that we're going to
playback into his cerebral cortex tonight, which oughtta liven up his posts a little. Besides,
he was actually kinda enjoying the gay stuff we've been playing lately, surprise surprise.

Hey, that means I'm number two !! I'll take it, after all a Silver
medal ain't too bad ... What do you think Brad ??

I'll make sure the beam is pointed the right direction, just let me
know what episodes of alien abduction experiences you want him to
"receive" tonight, the gay ones were pretty good weren't they ?? He
was really getting into it wasn't he ??



BAM! Lookitthat, suckas! I am DA TOP MAN on kook-bat's paranoia
****list! Numero Uno! In your FACE, posers! You be OWNED!
p.s. I'm going to increase the mind-control beam into Guthy's house by
8dB tonight while
he's asleep. We have a couple of hours alien abduction experiences
that we're going to
playback into his cerebral cortex tonight, which oughtta liven up his
posts a little. Besides, he was actually kinda enjoying the gay stuff
we've been playing lately, surprise surprise.

Pat Flannery wrote:
Me wrote:

BAM! Lookitthat, suckas! I am DA TOP MAN on kook-bat's paranoia
****list! Numero Uno! In your FACE, posers! You be OWNED!


I didn't even rank apparently...how far I have dropped from my former
days of grandeur as an incest-cloned Borg. :-(

Pat

Yes, I've replaced you because I've taken the trouble to read Brad's
**** and tell him where his ideas diverge from reality in detail. I'll
be quiet for a while and see how the frequency drops - that tells a lot
about deep psychological processes.

Hah... my ex-wife did her PhD thesis on response latency. That's the
time it takes between being presented with a question and giving an
answer. Detailed analysis of response latency, some say analysis of
the silences in a conversation, can give you very interesting clues as
to how data is structured in a person's head.

For example, you might ask a person if a bird has feathers. they might
say 'yes' and it might take 0.1 seconds for them to respond. Then, you
might ask if a bird has a beak, and they might say 'yes' and take 0.11
seconds to respond. Then, you might ask of a bird has skin. They
might say 'yes' and it might take 0.2 seconds to respond.

What's up with that?

Well, there may be an intermediate thought process that connects skin
and bird. For example, a bird is an animal an animals have skin...

The interesting thing is that a detailed analysis of 100 questions -
shades of Ridley Scott's Voigt Kampff test in Blade Runner (do androids
dream of electric sheep!) - but instead of involuntary dialation of the
iris, or other biometric factors, this particular test looks at
silences - the response latency of response. And from that we can
build the distances between articles of knowledge.

The cool thing is that you can find out things you don't ask directly
about. For example, you can find out about a thing called animals, but
you never asked about animals diretly - you only asked about skin!

Another cool thing is that response latency relates to the structure of
knowledge even if someone is lying. So, if the answers were 'no'
above, the response latency structure would be preserved, perhaps with
a little distortion.

What this means is that you can analyze the recording of two people
talking to one another - and both of them are lying through their teeth
- nevertheless, a careful analysis of what they're saying - looking at
the response latency - you can find out about something that neither of
these liars ever even mentioned!!!!

Talk about a powerful technique! Its almost as good as ESP. In fact,
when we are able to build mental models, or models of the brain
accurately, expect 'mind reading' computer programs to be developed
that examines all the silent signs of knowledge and is able to
efficiently analyze them to garner a great wealth of knowledge...
hahaha

William Mook wrote:

Yes, I've replaced you because I've taken the trouble to read Brad's
**** and tell him where his ideas diverge from reality in detail.


That could take a multi-volume set of books. :-D

Pat

Pat Flannery ) wrote:


: Me wrote:

: BAM! Lookitthat, suckas! I am DA TOP MAN on kook-bat's paranoia
: ****list! Numero Uno! In your FACE, posers! You be OWNED!
:
:
: I didn't even rank apparently...how far I have dropped from my former
: days of grandeur as an incest-cloned Borg. :-(

You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
we're all too familar with.

Brad confuses thinking outside the box with not even knowing the box and
then trying to think.

Brad takes mental gymnatsics to a whole new level, except that the judging
process is: Brad on Brad - 10, the rest of the world on Brad - 0.

Isn't one of the first rules of engineering, that after you come up with
the a great idea, then being able to communicate it in such a manner that
other engineers actually get it? I think you know wher I'm going with
this...

Eric

: Pat

You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
we're all too familar with.
Unlike your all-knowing self, not each and every notion that my three
remaining dyslexic brain cells manage to assemble are worthy of being
another pot of gold. As I've said dozen and even hundreds of times
before that I've made my fair share of mistakes, and I certainly have
no intentions of slowing that process down any time soon. Last time
I'd checked, even my lose cannons are still on the poopdeck and firing
at will.

Brad takes mental gymnatsics to a whole new level, except that the judging
process is: Brad on Brad - 10, the rest of the world on Brad - 0.
Eric Chomko,
I like the sound of that one, at least it's honesty pit against
honesty, and there's not even a brown-nose in sight. Of course, I'd
like to be the one asking the questions, rather than having to
continually fend off so much incoming flak in the form of naysayism.

Isn't one of the first rules of engineering, that after you come up with
the a great idea, then being able to communicate it in such a manner that
other engineers actually get it? I think you know wher I'm going with
this...
That's a tough task when you have such limited resources, then having
nothing but these supposed all-knowing rusemasters as wizards and
engineers having no apparent sense of humor, much less even a viable
periscope for looking outside of their own box. It's as though they've
been petri dish cloned as having been initially conceived and having
lived entirely within a nuclear submarine all of their naysay lives,
except without so much as that periscope, and thereby haven't so much
as a fuzzy clue as to which planet their on.

There's certainly more to the potentials of Venusian extremophiles,
exoskeletals, flying diatoms or even somewhat survival smart human like
forms of other life on Venus than my failing eyes alone have seen.
Here's just a few of the more recent of ongoing topics (aka back
peddling as fast as each of these suckers can go before the new and
improved data start arriving from Venus EXPRESS).

Astrobiology: The Case for Venus by; Geoffrey A. Landis
http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/20...003-212310.pdf

LIFE ON VENUS / By Sean Henahan
http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA09/venus297.html

A Scientific Case for Venus Exploration: Venus Express and Beyond II
Posters
http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm05/fm0...fm05_P33A.html

The surface of Venus with locations of major volcano sites
http://www-atm.physics.ox.ac.uk/proj...venus-vol.html

"Rehabilitating" VENUS as a Human Destination
http://www.lunar-reclamation.org/pap...rehabpaper.htm

Astrobiology: Venus (even our NASA know how to back paddle and to
revise their past)
http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/topics/venus.html

Planetary Protection Study Group Mulls Life On Venus / By Leonard David
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...enus_life.html

Unfortunately, as of 6+ years ago, I was just another box outsider
looking to see what the heck was actually so interesting inside the big
and supposedly all-knowing box, just doing my personal best thing of
trying to make my two cents worth out of all that was being said about
say/naysay our moon, about our NASA and of where the next generations
of spendy and time consuming missions were headed as though our global
energy resources, as well as time and of all the moneys upon Earth were
unlimited.

My first mistake related to Venus was obviously for having been the
good-guy (aka nice messenger) that was being kind enough and 100% at my
expense willing to share with our NASA, as to having offered my
observationology(subjective interpretation) of what looked somewhat out
of place (aka unnatural) about one specific location on Venus. I'd no
idea that so much internal crapolla was going to hit the big-ass fan
that was within that box, and their damage-control squad of clearly
brown-nosed troops within their uplink.space.com naysay collective only
added another butt-load of insult to injury. I guess it was all of
that unexpected mainstream status quo flak that gave the green-light,
indicating that at least my locomotive from my side of hell, that was
hauling all of my lose cannons, was on a perfectly good set of tracks.
-

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~

Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree far beyond WAR is WAR, thus "in war
there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very result of honest
folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident LLPOF warlord(GW
Bush).
Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Brad Guth ) wrote:
: You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
: that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
: with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
: we're all too familar with.

: Unlike your all-knowing self, not each and every notion that my three
: remaining dyslexic brain cells manage to assemble are worthy of being
: another pot of gold. As I've said dozen and even hundreds of times
: before that I've made my fair share of mistakes, and I certainly have
: no intentions of slowing that process down any time soon. Last time
: I'd checked, even my lose cannons are still on the poopdeck and firing
: at will.

All that aside, have you ever actually made anything? A piece of software
that works, even? I can picture you swearing at the computer, then lumping
Microsoft in with the NSA/MI6 conspiracy that is out to get you...

: Brad takes mental gymnatsics to a whole new level, except that the judging
: process is: Brad on Brad - 10, the rest of the world on Brad - 0.

: Eric Chomko,
: I like the sound of that one, at least it's honesty pit against
: honesty, and there's not even a brown-nose in sight. Of course, I'd
: like to be the one asking the questions, rather than having to
: continually fend off so much incoming flak in the form of naysayism.

Who's naysaying? One just has to learn to separate the wheat from the
chaff.

: Isn't one of the first rules of engineering, that after you come up with
: the a great idea, then being able to communicate it in such a manner that
: other engineers actually get it? I think you know wher I'm going with
: this...

: That's a tough task when you have such limited resources, then having
: nothing but these supposed all-knowing rusemasters as wizards and
: engineers having no apparent sense of humor, much less even a viable
: periscope for looking outside of their own box. It's as though they've
: been petri dish cloned as having been initially conceived and having
: lived entirely within a nuclear submarine all of their naysay lives,
: except without so much as that periscope, and thereby haven't so much
: as a fuzzy clue as to which planet their on.

: There's certainly more to the potentials of Venusian extremophiles,
: exoskeletals, flying diatoms or even somewhat survival smart human like
: forms of other life on Venus than my failing eyes alone have seen.

Brad finding life outside of earth will probably be in the form of single
cell organisms. All this Sci-Fi stuff about life NEVER takes into account
the mundane.

: Here's just a few of the more recent of ongoing topics (aka back
: peddling as fast as each of these suckers can go before the new and
: improved data start arriving from Venus EXPRESS).

: Astrobiology: The Case for Venus by; Geoffrey A. Landis
: http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/20...003-212310.pdf

: LIFE ON VENUS / By Sean Henahan
: http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA09/venus297.html

: A Scientific Case for Venus Exploration: Venus Express and Beyond II
: Posters
: http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm05/fm0...fm05_P33A.html

: The surface of Venus with locations of major volcano sites
: http://www-atm.physics.ox.ac.uk/proj...venus-vol.html

: "Rehabilitating" VENUS as a Human Destination
: http://www.lunar-reclamation.org/pap...rehabpaper.htm

: Astrobiology: Venus (even our NASA know how to back paddle and to
: revise their past)
: http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/topics/venus.html

: Planetary Protection Study Group Mulls Life On Venus / By Leonard David
: http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...enus_life.html

: Unfortunately, as of 6+ years ago, I was just another box outsider
: looking to see what the heck was actually so interesting inside the big
: and supposedly all-knowing box, just doing my personal best thing of
: trying to make my two cents worth out of all that was being said about
: say/naysay our moon, about our NASA and of where the next generations
: of spendy and time consuming missions were headed as though our global
: energy resources, as well as time and of all the moneys upon Earth were
: unlimited.

: My first mistake related to Venus was obviously for having been the
: good-guy (aka nice messenger) that was being kind enough and 100% at my
: expense willing to share with our NASA, as to having offered my
: observationology(subjective interpretation) of what looked somewhat out
: of place (aka unnatural) about one specific location on Venus. I'd no
: idea that so much internal crapolla was going to hit the big-ass fan
: that was within that box, and their damage-control squad of clearly
: brown-nosed troops within their uplink.space.com naysay collective only
: added another butt-load of insult to injury. I guess it was all of
: that unexpected mainstream status quo flak that gave the green-light,
: indicating that at least my locomotive from my side of hell, that was
: hauling all of my lose cannons, was on a perfectly good set of tracks.
: -

Brad, none of those links indicates that life exists today on Venus, as
you claim. Only that life COULD have existed due to the fact that the
sun's energy was 25-40% less than it is today. The point is that Veuns a
billion years ago, according to the above links, was more like earth
today. And when making claims from a billion years ago, there is lots of
room for error.

Eric

: "If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
: -Brad Guth

: "To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
: -Stanislaus I

: "The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
: but having new eyes."
: -Marcel Proust

: "Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
: action, not a thought."
: -F.W. Robertson
: ~

: Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree far beyond WAR is WAR, thus "in war
: there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very result of honest
: folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
: by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident LLPOF warlord(GW
: Bush).
: Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
: The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
: Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm