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Impeach nasa.


Cut to image of Mike Griffin on phone to the president as a brunette head
bobs up and down in his lap. :-)


"Affairs of state must take precedence over the affairs of State."


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R Sweeney wrote:

Why exactly do we need a winged lifting body? To what end?




If it has wings, is it a lifting body?


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R Sweeney wrote:

Why exactly do we need a winged lifting body? To what end?



If it has wings, is it a lifting body?


I would think an aircraft could be designed that would generate lift from
its fuselage and its wings, and be both a lifting body and an aeroplane.
Maybe like Boeing's Blended Wing Body?


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Pat Flannery wrote:
R Sweeney wrote:

Why exactly do we need a winged lifting body? To what end?




If it has wings, is it a lifting body?


Ask Burnelli.

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Neil Gerace wrote:
I would think an aircraft could be designed that would generate lift from
its fuselage and its wings, and be both a lifting body and an aeroplane.


It's not uncommon for existing aircraft with relatively wide bodies to
work that way. Shapes like the F-14 and F-15 have quite a bit of body
lift at high speed.
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Neil Gerace wrote:

I would think an aircraft could be designed that would generate lift from
its fuselage and its wings, and be both a lifting body and an aeroplane.
Maybe like Boeing's Blended Wing Body?



This is the perfect excuse to bring up the McDonnell Moonbat:
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/xp67.html

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If it has wings, is it a lifting body?



Ask Burnelli.




Don't forget Wallis' Swallow.

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In article , Henry Spencer says...

In article ,
Neil Gerace wrote:
I would think an aircraft could be designed that would generate lift from
its fuselage and its wings, and be both a lifting body and an aeroplane.


It's not uncommon for existing aircraft with relatively wide bodies to
work that way. Shapes like the F-14 and F-15 have quite a bit of body
lift at high speed.


And sometimes at lower speed - IIRC an Israeli pilot once safely landed
an F-15 that had lost one wing to a mid-air collision. An Israeli *student*
pilot; the instructor called for ejection, but the pilot noticed that the
airplane was, well, sort of, you know, *flying*, and as long as it was
going to do that he would stick with it...


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In article ,
John Schilling wrote:
It's not uncommon for existing aircraft with relatively wide bodies to
work that way. Shapes like the F-14 and F-15 have quite a bit of body
lift at high speed.


And sometimes at lower speed - IIRC an Israeli pilot once safely landed
an F-15 that had lost one wing to a mid-air collision...


However, it was also reportedly the fastest F-15 landing ever, well beyond
the normal maximum touchdown speed.

An Israeli *student*
pilot; the instructor called for ejection, but the pilot noticed that the
airplane was, well, sort of, you know, *flying*, and as long as it was
going to do that he would stick with it...


And he outranked the instructor. However, the instructor is naturally
supposed to be in charge regardless. Flight International, I believe it
was, reported that the student simultaneously got a reprimand and a
demotion for disobeying the instructor, and a commendation and a promotion
for saving the aircraft.
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