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Nick ha scritto:
The Milky Way's near-twin galaxy, Andromeda, harbors a supermassive black hole at its core that is surrounded by an unexpected and unexplained disc of young stars. In the linked article it's said: " The newly discovered disc is composed of over 400 very hot, young blue stars, orbiting like a planetary system very close to the black hole. That puzzles astronomers because the black hole's intense gravitational field should have torn apart any clouds of matter long before they could coalesce to form new stars. " I'll try to explain in some alternative way. Dennis W. Sciama published in 1952 the article "On the origin of Inertia", where he formulated Mach's Principle by introducing a scalar potential PHI = - integral ( rho / r ) dV , with rho = matter density , r distance from the test particle and dV the element of volume, then he considered a near body with M mass at distance r and its newtonian gravitational potential phi = M/r and he found (with c= light speed and G= Newtonian constant), in a inertial frame: (PHI + phi)/c^2 = - 1 / G , or as PHI phi : G / c^2 = - 1 / PHI So the meaning of rest mass-energy of test particle of mass m is given by: m c^2 = - G m PHI , that is the sum of all gravitational potential from all other masses in the universe. Some years later, Brans and Dicke formulated an extended theory of gravity, starting it in likely way from this assumption: c^2 / G = Sum of ( m(i) / r(i)) where r(i) are distances from the test particle (m not included in that sum of course) so the "constant" G can be operatively defined and can change in both space and time. Brans-Dicke's theory has not got a great success as no appreciable variation of G inside our sun system has never been measued till now. But what about G varying in space, near a hyper-dense body? Bashkov and Kozyrev have found (2000) that "scalar field, inside the matter, has characteristics like gravitation permeability of material similar electromagnetic permeability of material in Maxwell theories of electromagnetism. Investigation of obtained exact solutions for given functions of a matter distributions in the Newtonian limit of Jordan, Brans - Dicke theory show the efficient value of gravitation constant depends on density of matter, sizes and form of object, as well as on the value of theories coupling constant. That for example led to weakening gravitation force in the central regions of a Galaxies. This assumption constitutes the way to explain observed rotation curves of Galaxies without using cold dark matter." In particular they found that the effective "constant" G' goes near to zero(!) at the center of big concentrations of mass: "For objects with constant density, when increasing a radius or density of configurations the gravitation interaction inwardly objects weaken." But also in the general case of distribution of matter density: " When increasing a distance between focuses of configurations gravitation interaction inwardly objects decreases." (Bashkov and Kzyrev, 2000, "Dark matter an effect of gravitation permeability of material in Jordan, Brans - Dicke theory."). I'll give now an easy example without using any General Relativity formalism. We suppose c^2 / G = Sum of all (m_i / r_i) except the m of test-particle and consider m near a M . Even if this M was very big and near to m, this would not appreciably change the Sum above. So, by definition the effective G' would be given by: c^2 / G'(effective) = c^2 / G(universal) + M / r from this we easily find, for r = R(M), ray of the body M : G' = G / ( 1 + R*(M)/r ) where R*(M) = G M / c^2 is the "gravitational ray" of M (the half of a Schwarzschild ray) so G' would decrease to G / 1.5 if r = R(M) = 2 R*(M) and to G/2 if r = R = R*. If we suppose for simplicity an omogenean density inside the star with mass M, we obtain , for r = R(M) G' = G / { 1 + (R* / 2R) * [3-(r/R)^2] } at the center: G'(effective) = G (Newtonian) / (1 + 3R*/2R) and if R(M) = R*(M) G' = G / 2.5 All that above let me to deeply suspict we all have had a wrong idea of "black holes" till now. If the star would collapse inside its Schwarzschild ray, that is R R* , we should have immediately G' goes to zero near the center. As consequence, no "singularity" will be never formed. The error of General Relativity Theory would be given by the assumption that G is always and everywhere a true constant. So I think that the disk of "blue stars" formed so near a "supermassive black hole" is not so strange and mysterious at all. Very simply, the effective G' that is the gravitational intensity becomes more and more low at the center. I think those giant blue stars are already "inside" the so called "black hole" - that is not a black hole at all - so they are not stressed so much as one would imagine till now. Unless observational measures will demostrate that they have got tangential velocities very near the light speed. But I suppose these velocities are lower than expected by the extimated value of the SM "BH" around which they orbite. Best regards, Attilio Alaimo ( ) technician at Physic dept., University of Perugia, Italy. |
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