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Double-A,

It riles me that other people who are not AUK'ers razz, Tholen. ...
Worse yet; some of these individuals end up becoming part of the AUK
community and start harassing other Usenet posters.

The intolerence ends up growing and spreading ...

You can see the results, here and now for yourself in alt.astronomy

This habit of harrassing posters mindlessly; as is done to Tholen;
becomes acceptable behavior.

Obviously, one cannot criticize Tholen; or anyone for that fact; vis a
vis ... how they conduct themselves on Usenet ... and expect a positive
outcome.

All that one can hope for is to 'sensitize' people; to make them aware
of certain things.

Example: ... Calling Bruce an idiot may be appropriate. It may make
people, here in alt.astronomy feel good.

... it encouage 'Bruce' to be an even bigger idiot ? grin

And perhaps THAT is the partial purpose to all of this ...

... to deliberately 'troll' him.

I was certainly aware that I managed to get both Bruce and Deco to blow
their cool in the past. At least with regard to Bruce, and maybe Deco,
too ... I trolled him down to a new *low* in vulgarity.

Why? ... to what end ?

Only so that at the end of the day, ... they would become sensitized,
THEMSLEVES to their own foolishness.



As far as I'm concerned, the olive branch is always extended. I was
going to ignore Bruce's insults today and leave him alone, but when he
jumped into my Tholen thread, I couldn't resist saying something back.


To my own surprise, Art seems to have turned that corner. There is much
substance to the man that neither you nor I could see before. ...
Worthwhile, interesting substance.


Yes, Art has certainly showed us a different side of himself. Perhaps
he is changing. But having a conscience might be his undoing in AUK.
He still won't give up on nightbat, already nominating him again!

I dunno about that, so much Double-A. There is a distinct possibility
that Art may end up changing AUK, itself. Haven't you noticed that Art
& Co. have been attracting a lot of nutjobs, recently ?


Just recently?


The realy vicious ones haven't shown up, yet. However, with the ever
grwing success of AUK at disrupting things, it's only a matter of time.

AUK may seem to be a bunch of unpleasant turkies but many of those
people seem to have come from NG's like sci.psychology.psychotherapy


Figures!


;l./
with the long standing flame war involving Linda Gore.

See http://tinyurl.com/cvdao for an early Art Deco classic.

When it comes to rowdiness and nastiness, in the few months that I had
a glimpse at SPP, ... AUK was real tame. Things seem to have quieted
down a lot over there. ... I don't know why. Perhaps Art, Linda, Kali
or whoever would fill us in. Whatever the case, people seemed to return
to a modicum of civility. As to whether or not the group has become
burned out in the process is another issue.

Anyhow, I say all this because I am told that a similar sort of thing
happened in ASAD. ... Only it wasn't the AUK crowd involved in that
one. It involved special interest lobby groups. ... anti-shrink lobby
groups ... anti-meadz lobbyists and the like. ... Add scient*o*l*g*y
types, cretinists, etc and you can get some super nasty protracted
spamming and disrupting.


I used to read and post to the physics groups. A real three ring
circus over there all the time! What I hated to see was when they
would tee off of some innocent student looking for help. "Uncle Al"
seemed to especially relish that kind of sadistic thing! When Spaceman
was there, he kept the pot well stirred. He showed absolutely no
respect for their PhDs, and it taught me that the argument is not
always won by the wise, but using good old fashioned dishonest debating
tactics can befuddle your opponent and win the crowd to your side!


Notice that I corrupt the spelling to quash a Google search.

These flame wars involve serious hardcore kooks who are fanatics,
purposely driven by someone else's agenda. When AUK gets it's hands in
this lot, it will have found it's calling. It will have a field day.

Take Warhol and Rev'd for example ... look at the real nasty types
that lurk on their periphery. That is the direction that I expect AUK
will take in the future. Where the mess occurs is another story.

Hopefully, it won't be here.



Now if only we could get Bruce to be sincere ... and I leave it at
that

For that day will come when it comes. I can't engineer it. ... Nor can
I fake it. To do so would be disrespectful. Bruce is his own man. That,
I respect!


I am hoping that Bruce will sort of self-destruct. I think that his
unbridled bigotry may turn his own buddies against him.

Every so often I catch glimpses that Bruce has had an education.
Intuitively, I doubt that he is the dimwit that he makes himself out to
be.


Then he must work hard on his performance!


Sincerely, I think that AUK is preoccupied with the wrong type of
targets.
Don't forget! It was Art, himself, who drew my attention to such.

Ever increasing awareness over issues srrounding the Formosa Rule will
motivate AUK to refine it's practice and alter it's target. Nightbat
is a nice, kind man. He doesn't ram his ideas down other people's
throats. He is concillatory, receptive and thoughtfull.

So long as nightbat doesn't blow his cool. People who take sporting pot
shots at him come off looking like the jerks that they behave as ...


Yes, I have seen so many kooks on Usenet who are both kooky and real
mean spirited jerks. Wouldn't you prefer to see some real bad ass
getting an award rather than a basicly nice guy like the nightbat?

(Are you reading this Art?)

I could certainly supply a list of bad ass crank scientists for the
VVFWSA.

Why so focus on alt.astronomy?


I neither know nor care who 'Frederick the farted' is ... He doesn't
listen or respect. He just ridicules for the smart-ass of it. That
person wins my cold shoulder w/o the courtesy of any reconsideration. I
don't care about his redeaming qualities. As he doesn't care for others
...


Getting somebody to loose their temper, helps, Double-A. ... It makes
them human. An angry person is a sincere person. An angry person also
listens.

RL

Double-A

Perhaps if 'Frederick the farted' got really super ****ed, I might see
some humanity therein. ... Although by that time he might be too
incoherent. I see no reaon to bother thinking about him.


They say Fred is the bot of Kadaitcha Man. But who is Kadaitcha Man?

Double-A