Wake up America

You are grounding the shuttle for what may be forever.

Now lets get this straight, you have a vehicle called a Shuttle that has a
big external tank, are you all still there and listening.

The big external tank is covered by a foam, when the shuttle with the big
orange tank takes of bits of foam from the big orange tank breaks away and
causes damage to the Shuttle.

Now America you are going to ground then scrap the whole space programme
because the great nation of America is not able to fix foam falling from the
big orange tank.

God help America.

Get the Chinese's involved they will have a fix for it in a few hours.

Carol Singer wrote:
You are grounding the shuttle for what may be forever.

Now lets get this straight, you have a vehicle called a Shuttle that has a
big external tank, are you all still there and listening.

The big external tank is covered by a foam, when the shuttle with the big
orange tank takes of bits of foam from the big orange tank breaks away and
causes damage to the Shuttle.

The basic design architecture is quite suspect. Only the shuttle has
ever been built with the load on the side of the rocket motors.
Everything else puts the load in front of the motors. Maybe after all
these years, billions of dollars and multiple lives lost it just might
be dawning on some people that the basic design architecture has
fundamental flaws.

Get the Chinese's involved they will have a fix for it in a few hours.


LOL, I doubt it. One thing the Chinese have demonstrated is a great
disregard for individual human lives. If dozens, hundreds, thousands or
even millions are sacrificed for the Good Of China well then so it must
be in there way of doing things. Chinese industry is hardly the
paragon of quality and reliability.


John

Everything in America is made in China, Wal-Mart buys 10% of all Chinese
production

"John Horner" wrote in message
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Carol Singer wrote:
You are grounding the shuttle for what may be forever.

Now lets get this straight, you have a vehicle called a Shuttle that has
a
big external tank, are you all still there and listening.

The big external tank is covered by a foam, when the shuttle with the
big
orange tank takes of bits of foam from the big orange tank breaks away
and
causes damage to the Shuttle.

The basic design architecture is quite suspect. Only the shuttle has
ever been built with the load on the side of the rocket motors.
Everything else puts the load in front of the motors. Maybe after all
these years, billions of dollars and multiple lives lost it just might
be dawning on some people that the basic design architecture has
fundamental flaws.

Get the Chinese's involved they will have a fix for it in a few hours.


LOL, I doubt it. One thing the Chinese have demonstrated is a great
disregard for individual human lives. If dozens, hundreds, thousands or
even millions are sacrificed for the Good Of China well then so it must
be in there way of doing things. Chinese industry is hardly the
paragon of quality and reliability.


John

"Carol Singer" wrote in message
...
Everything in America is made in China, Wal-Mart buys 10% of all Chinese
production

You are dumb. My VCR and TV were made in Japan. My computer parts were
made in Taiwan. Tell me, if China sells so much stuff, how come most people
in China live in **** poor conditions?

John

Carol Singer wrote:

Everything in America is made in China, Wal-Mart buys 10% of all Chinese
production

Dunno know if your figure is correct, but Wal-Mart is just the hook up,
the people of America are doing the end buying. Don't shoot the
messenger.

Carol Singer wrote:
Everything in America is made in China, Wal-Mart buys 10% of all Chinese
production



NASA has it's problems, but I don't think anyone would want to go to
space in a vehicle made in China and sold at WalMart. Walmart
specializes in disposable goods. The vast majority of things sold in a
WalMart are making a short stop in people's homes prior to a trip to the
landfill. It would be interesting to know the mean-time-to-landfill of
the average WalMart purchase . My guess is that it is less than 24
months.

John

"John Horner" wrote in message
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The basic design architecture is quite suspect. Only the shuttle has
ever been built with the load on the side of the rocket motors.
Everything else puts the load in front of the motors. Maybe after all
these years, billions of dollars and multiple lives lost it just might
be dawning on some people that the basic design architecture has
fundamental flaws.

Not quite, Energia had a similar design.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:01:41 -0500, John Horner wrote
(in article Fh0Ge.6767$6M3.1500@trnddc03):

The basic design architecture is quite suspect. Only the shuttle has
ever been built with the load on the side of the rocket motors.
Everything else puts the load in front of the motors.

Whether the design is suspect is irrelevant - it's been known to have
been a compromise since Day 1 for anyone who paid attention to the
design and development process.

Be that as it may, the Soviets copied for the Energia/Buran, so it's
not the only side-load launcher ever built.

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Herb Schaltegger wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:01:41 -0500, John Horner wrote
(in article Fh0Ge.6767$6M3.1500@trnddc03):

The basic design architecture is quite suspect. Only the shuttle has
ever been built with the load on the side of the rocket motors.
Everything else puts the load in front of the motors.

Whether the design is suspect is irrelevant - it's been known to have
been a compromise since Day 1 for anyone who paid attention to the
design and development process.

Be that as it may, the Soviets copied for the Energia/Buran, so it's
not the only side-load launcher ever built.

Indeed - it's not the only side-load launcher the US has built either,
the modified Thor's used for the atmospheric nuclear tests carried
deployable instrumentation pods on their sides. Then there is Navaho -
which was semi-side-load.

For that matter Atlas shed ice - right onto the housings for the
boosters, as did the Saturn V's onto the outboard engine shrouds.

From some points of view the R-7 and it's derivatives could also be
seen as side-load launchers. (As could the various boosters which
hang SRB's or LRB's off their sides.)

D.
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-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

Yes, I do see your point, read my comments below. its almost always the
simple stuff that you think you understand that comes back and bites you.

What about a spray on layer of lacquer?

Brian

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"Carol Singer" wrote in message
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You are grounding the shuttle for what may be forever.

Now lets get this straight, you have a vehicle called a Shuttle that has a
big external tank, are you all still there and listening.

The big external tank is covered by a foam, when the shuttle with the big
orange tank takes of bits of foam from the big orange tank breaks away and
causes damage to the Shuttle.

Now America you are going to ground then scrap the whole space programme
because the great nation of America is not able to fix foam falling from
the
big orange tank.

God help America.

Get the Chinese's involved they will have a fix for it in a few hours.