Northrop Grumman CEV

In article ,
Pat Flannery wrote:

Gunter Krebs wrote:

Hello,

the only recent illustration of the Northrop / Boeing CEV concept is at
http://www.capitolsource.northropgru.../constell.html
(looks like a Soyuz on steroids).



Actually, it looks more like a Shenzhou than a Soyuz.
This is great! One of our aerospace firms looks like it's copying the
Russian Kliper, the other the Chinese Shenzhou. :-)

Pat


Hmmmm, I was thinking that too. I wonder if their orbital module is
designed to do just that - remain in orbit - that habitable volume,
small as it is, could be useful for all sorts of things. Haven't the
Chinese plans to construct a small space station by daisychaining
several of these things?

P

Phil Bagust wrote:


Hmmmm, I was thinking that too. I wonder if their orbital module is
designed to do just that - remain in orbit - that habitable volume,
small as it is, could be useful for all sorts of things. Haven't the
Chinese plans to construct a small space station by daisychaining
several of these things?



Yeah, using the orbital modules as something is a clever idea; if you
are going to put the thing into orbit, you might as well keep it there.
The Chinese were clever in giving theirs and independent RCS system and
solar arrays; I always thought you could turn it into a space taxi
without too much work.
As far as the space station plans go, I think the current plan is to
orbit a large core module, and then possibly start docking orbital
modules to it: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/chiatory.htm
They had one station design that had a total of 26 docking ports on it!

Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Actually, it looks more like a Shenzhou than a Soyuz.
This is great! One of our aerospace firms looks like it's copying the
Russian Kliper, the other the Chinese Shenzhou. :-)

And Kliper is an excellent knock-off of one of LM's OSP designs that got
canned.

In article . com,
Ed Kyle wrote:
So, is Lockheed involved in Kliper?

No. Lockheed shares ILS ownership with Krunichev,
the Proton builder. Kliper is an Energia project.

Energia is also a partner in ILS... albeit a relatively minor one,
especially since Proton stopped using Energia's Blok D stage. ILS
began as LKE -- Lockheed, Khrunichev, Energia.
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Henry Spencer wrote:
In article . com,
Ed Kyle wrote:
So, is Lockheed involved in Kliper?

No. Lockheed shares ILS ownership with Krunichev,
the Proton builder. Kliper is an Energia project.

Energia is also a partner in ILS... albeit a relatively minor one,
especially since Proton stopped using Energia's Blok D stage. ILS
began as LKE -- Lockheed, Khrunichev, Energia.

I'm not sure if Energia is still an ILS partner. At the
very least it is now a passive partner that has a more
active involvement in competitor Sea Launch.

The 10th year anniversary ILS press release:

"http://www.ilslaunch.com/newsarchives/newsreleases/rec309/"

said that ILS is a "joint venture of Lockheed Martin of the
United States (NYSE: LMT) and Khrunichev State Research and
Production Space Center of Russia.."

The ILS website now lists RSC Energia as a "previous supplier
of Block DM fourth stage for the Proton K"

- Ed Kyle