Moon last night (14 June) with Canon 350D Large File

Poor focus.

Andrea T.

On 15 Jun 2005 07:18:20 -0700, wrote:

Poor focus.

Poor interpersonal skills.

A better approach would be to offer some words of encouragement and
suggestions for improvement.
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Pete
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Pete Lawrence wrote:
On 15 Jun 2005 07:18:20 -0700, wrote:

Poor focus.

Poor interpersonal skills.

True, but still the picture is out of focus, quite some too.


A better approach would be to offer some words of encouragement and
suggestions for improvement.

An even better approach would be to improve a bit then post images.

Andrea T.

In article . com, wrote:

A better approach would be to offer some words of encouragement and
suggestions for improvement.

An even better approach would be to improve a bit then post images.

Disagree.

Jim
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On 15 Jun 2005 09:19:14 -0700, wrote:

A better approach would be to offer some words of encouragement and
suggestions for improvement.

An even better approach would be to improve a bit then post images.

It depends on how you perceive why people post. If you think it's
because they are saying - "Hey look at my image it's the best there
is" then I would agree. However, most post because they are proud of
what they have done but would welcome constructive criticism. There
are different levels of competence and different interpretations of
quality. I think most would be agreeable to a bit of advice and
pointing in the right direction - I know I am.

It's very negative to just jump in and say something's poor. It
destroys the confidence of the poster and probably puts off others
that would post if only for a bit of advice. Astronomy should not be
an elitist sport. You have a lot of knowledge - so share it (possibly
with some examples of your own).

--
Pete
http://www.digitalsky.org.uk

Pete Lawrence wrote:
On 15 Jun 2005 09:19:14 -0700, wrote:

A better approach would be to offer some words of encouragement and
suggestions for improvement.

An even better approach would be to improve a bit then post images.

It depends on how you perceive why people post. If you think it's
because they are saying - "Hey look at my image it's the best there
is" then I would agree. However, most post because they are proud of
what they have done but would welcome constructive criticism. There
are different levels of competence and different interpretations of
quality. I think most would be agreeable to a bit of advice and
pointing in the right direction - I know I am.

Well, I guess we see things in a rather different way, shall I say. I'm
always astonished by people lack of self-criticism (or they won't post
such horrors).


It's very negative to just jump in and say something's poor. It
destroys the confidence of the poster and probably puts off others
that would post if only for a bit of advice. Astronomy should not be
an elitist sport. You have a lot of knowledge - so share it (possibly
with some examples of your own).

Maybe, but I never refused giving or taking an advice. OTOH I find
quite difficult lying...

Andrea T.

wrote:

Maybe, but I never refused giving or taking an advice. OTOH I find
quite difficult lying...

But you didn't _give_ advice - you just said 'poor focus' which,
frankly, was bloody obvious and didn't need pointing out.

I find it quite refreshing to find that not everyone who posts image
links here is a superb imager - yet.

Jim
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Jim wrote:
wrote:

Maybe, but I never refused giving or taking an advice. OTOH I find
quite difficult lying...

But you didn't _give_ advice - you just said 'poor focus' which,
frankly, was bloody obvious and didn't need pointing out.

I do give advice if ask to do so. I wasn't. Were I him I would check
whether I need a prescription for glasses or a check of the current
one.


I find it quite refreshing to find that not everyone who posts image
links here is a superb imager - yet.

So you don't feel alone?

Andrea T.

wrote:
Pete Lawrence wrote:
On 15 Jun 2005 09:19:14 -0700, wrote:

A better approach would be to offer some words of encouragement and
suggestions for improvement.

An even better approach would be to improve a bit then post images.

It depends on how you perceive why people post. If you think it's
because they are saying - "Hey look at my image it's the best there
is" then I would agree. However, most post because they are proud of
what they have done but would welcome constructive criticism. There
are different levels of competence and different interpretations of
quality. I think most would be agreeable to a bit of advice and
pointing in the right direction - I know I am.

Well, I guess we see things in a rather different way, shall I say. I'm
always astonished by people lack of self-criticism (or they won't post
such horrors).

I'm astonished at how some people can only judge others by their own
standards. I expect your images are **** compared to Hubble's, but you
carry on. Why do you bother imaging when you can see something better
on the web from Hubble, Keck or any number of bigger and better scopes
than you can ever hope to own?

Perfection may be the ultimate aim (up there with world peace and a
cure for cancer), but that doesn't mean we can't take pleasure in
creating something we know is imperfect, but which is an improvement
over what we did last week.


Tim
--
Don't tell me I'm still on that feckin' island!

Tim Auton wrote:
wrote:
Pete Lawrence wrote:
On 15 Jun 2005 09:19:14 -0700, wrote:

A better approach would be to offer some words of encouragement and
suggestions for improvement.

An even better approach would be to improve a bit then post images.

It depends on how you perceive why people post. If you think it's
because they are saying - "Hey look at my image it's the best there
is" then I would agree. However, most post because they are proud of
what they have done but would welcome constructive criticism. There
are different levels of competence and different interpretations of
quality. I think most would be agreeable to a bit of advice and
pointing in the right direction - I know I am.

Well, I guess we see things in a rather different way, shall I say. I'm
always astonished by people lack of self-criticism (or they won't post
such horrors).

I'm astonished at how some people can only judge others by their own
standards.

Do you judge people by someone-else's standard???

I expect your images are **** compared to Hubble's, but you
carry on.

They're pretty nice for a 0.2m UK lowland-based scope under a thick
atmosphere compared to a 2.5m scope hanging out there in the void.

OTOH, those (posted) images are **** any way you look at them.

Why do you bother imaging when you can see something better
on the web from Hubble, Keck or any number of bigger and better scopes
than you can ever hope to own?

Because I haven't got an Hubble or Keck to play with. I just have few
lousy aperture-challenged scopes you see...


Perfection may be the ultimate aim (up there with world peace and a
cure for cancer), but that doesn't mean we can't take pleasure in
creating something we know is imperfect, but which is an improvement
over what we did last week.

And you have to dump it over here?

Andrea T.