Whats After the Space Shuttle?

What's the landing method?


On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:08:21 -0400, (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

The Shuttle will be replaced by a safer and simpler rocket and reentry
system. It will have more powerful liquid rockets than the Saturn V
It will go to the Moon and back with energy to spare.Its command
capsule will have no wings. and land (target area) 3 miles from the
cape . Bert

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:43:20 +0000, Von Fourche wrote:


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Is the Space Shuttle going to be replaced in the next ten
years?
Is
NASA already working on their next generation space craft? How
close
are
they to actually using it? Or will we be stuck with the current
space
shuttle for the next twenty or thirty years?


They will phase it out in the next 5-10 years. What's next is
anyone's
guess.


NASA have put out a request for proposals on the next generation of
manned
spacecraft to be called the 'Crew Exploration Vehicle'. The program
is
supposed to have aworking craft by 2014 for low earth orbit, and to
go to
the moon in about 2020.



2020? Crap, didn't Kennedy announce going to the moon in '58 or
'59?
And we went there within ten years? So we might be going back to the
moon
in fifteen years? Sounds like the drive to go back to the moon is
not
there. Sounds like NASA history is more exciting than NASA future.
What do
we do? Support the Chinese going to the moon?


The future ain't what it used to be!

Double-A



I have an nice moon atlas book. The author talks about the missions
to
the moon and things and says there has been so much data/samples collected
from the moon that it will take decades to study it all and that's one
reason why trips to the moon has stopped.

Would you agree?


No. The reason is money and public will. Simple as that.

The data we got from Apollo will take decades to study but that doesn't
mean we should stop and wait. That's just plain rediculous.

kcw Its landing system would be much like the proven safe way used
before the Shuttle,and used by Russia ,and China. If NASA stayed with
this reentry capsule it would have evolved over the past 40 years into
something to be proud of. NASA should spend more time evolving is
rockets and command capsules,and less time counting the billions it
steals. The very large Saturn V weighs a lot and to
overcome this great inertia lots of fuel is wasted to get it to move. I
have an idea how lots of fuel could be saved in these seconds of take
off. Bert

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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kcw Its landing system would be much like the proven safe way used
before the Shuttle,and used by Russia ,and China.


Is the landing system your talking about like the used before the
shuttle - with a parachute and landing in the ocean? Is that way more
preferable than the glider method?

Von That is right. Wings come in handy once you have successfully
passed through the very dangerous level. They refer to this incoming
level as the 'window of opertunity" Come in to steep(very bad) wings
can break off(like the Columbia) Come in at an upward angle,and you
would skip back into space. (like skipping a flat stone across the
surface of water.) Wings can,and the Columbia proved this can come off.
Only Rube Goldberg would put wings on rockets. I can think of a lot
better ways. By better I mean safer. Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
kcw Its landing system would be much like the proven safe way used
before the Shuttle,and used by Russia ,and China. If NASA stayed with
this reentry capsule it would have evolved over the past 40 years
into
something to be proud of. NASA should spend more time evolving is
rockets and command capsules,and less time counting the billions it
steals. The very large Saturn V weighs a lot and
to
overcome this great inertia lots of fuel is wasted to get it to move.
I
have an idea how lots of fuel could be saved in these seconds of take
off. Bert


NASA had an idea on how to save fuel too. But the antigravity machine
they spent all that money trying to develop for use under the launch
pad just isn't working!

What's your idea, Bert?

Double-A

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