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....Jeez, Jud - haven't you figured out you're chatting with a troll?

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:34:00 -0500, Jud McCranie
wrote:

That's what is in the movie, but wasn't the actual possible plan to do
a figure 8 with a Gemini around the moon, launched with a Titan III?

....IIRC, the plan called for two Titan II launches - one with a
Gemini, one with an uprated Centaur with an ADTA on the end. The
Gemini would dock with the Centaur, and Pete Conrad and whoever got
lucky enough to tag along would get shot backwards into a Circumlunar
trajectory.

OM

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OM wrote:

...IIRC, the plan called for two Titan II launches - one with a
Gemini, one with an uprated Centaur with an ADTA on the end. The
Gemini would dock with the Centaur, and Pete Conrad and whoever got
lucky enough to tag along would get shot backwards into a Circumlunar
trajectory.


There were some variants on the plan, I think they use both Titan II and
Titan III, as well as Saturn I
This one uses two Titan III transtages:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/lunemini.htm
The one at the bottom of these three is interesting- a Gemini on a
Centaur, and a minimalist LEM on a Agena:
http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/g/geml640.gif

Pat

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:48:35 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

The one at the bottom of these three is interesting- a Gemini on a
Centaur, and a minimalist LEM on a Agena:
http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/g/geml640.gif

....The middle one - the Gemin-Centaur - is the one that Pete Conrad
was proposing, as it had a) more power and b) could be assembled in
the shortest time with tested parts - Centaur and ADTA. The ironic
thing is that if either the middle or bottom options had been excised,
Volkswagon could have still used it for a certain ad campaign :-) :-)

OM

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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:
That's what is in the movie, but wasn't the actual possible plan to do
a figure 8 with a Gemini around the moon, launched with a Titan III?

...IIRC, the plan called for two Titan II launches - one with a
Gemini, one with an uprated Centaur with an ADTA on the end...

There were a number of such plans, using a variety of upper stages and
launchers. The one included as an appendix in Apogee's Gemini 12 book,
for example, uses a Titan IIIC to launch a modified Transtage, plus the
usual Titan II to launch a slightly modified Gemini.
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