NASA JPL Mars Rover Spirit Fossil Life Discovery Coverup!

February 13, 2005

MERGATE, Marsgate.

The data embargo is complete.

Not a single image downloaded yesterday.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote yet another troll:
But I'll feed the troll anyway.....

The Mars rovers are not equipped with microscopes
good enough to see microbes. Also remember that
Earth did not have multicelluar life until about
600 million years ago. Which means that life on
Earth was single cell for 2 billion years. Which
suggests that it's hard for life to make that
jump, and maybe Mars life (if there is any) never
did that jump. All we can say with the rovers is that
we haven't seen any spiders on Mars, or turtles, but
we can't tell one way or another about microbes, alive
or fossil.

February 13, 2005

robert casey wrote:

Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote yet another troll:

But I'll feed the troll anyway.....

I'm not trolling, I'm absolutely serious.

The Mars rovers are not equipped with microscopes
good enough to see microbes. Also remember that
Earth did not have multicelluar life until about
600 million years ago. Which means that life on
Earth was single cell for 2 billion years. Which
suggests that it's hard for life to make that
jump, and maybe Mars life (if there is any) never
did that jump. All we can say with the rovers is that
we haven't seen any spiders on Mars, or turtles, but
we can't tell one way or another about microbes, alive
or fossil.

Actually, that's simply not true.

Cells were symbiotic long before then, organized stromatolites,
sponges, invertrebrates, etc, and multicellar specialization
appeared very quickly after climatic stresses were self induced
on the ecosystem by iron oxidation and oxygen accumulation.
Mitochondia and ribosomes even the nucleus were basically
specialized cells incorporated by other cells.

We are just now finding out now how the fossil record
of dna decoded organic chemistry actually proceeded,
and since the chemical and environmental conditions on
Mars were much different than the Earth, we can expect
that the decoding of geochemistry proceeded in very
different directions. I believe we are seeing evidence
of this, but without any spectroscopy, it's hard to tell.

The climate on Earth was very stable for 2 billion years.

You simply haven't done your homework, why even comment?

We are very clearly seeing fossil evidence in these images.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

are you a paid pollutical operative?



Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:

February 13, 2005

MERGATE, Marsgate.

The data embargo is complete.

Not a single image downloaded yesterday.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

February 14, 2005

holden wrote:

are you a paid pollutical operative?

No, I'm not republican.

Two days now, zero images.

Let me guess, they broke the rover!

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote in message
...
Not a single image downloaded yesterday.

Lets see... was that a Sunday? Traditional day of rest?
Perhaps, they were taking a day off. You know, a bit
of R&R. Maybe visiting their families for a change.

February 14, 2005

dar7yl wrote:

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote in message
...
Not a single image downloaded yesterday.

Lets see... was that a Sunday?

Look at what we have today, more plains vistas,
sundials, sky, and lots of images that are nearly
a week old. Very few recent images, and nothing
of the rock field directly ahead, with the sun
behind the rover. They just can't cope with
the reality that lies just ahead of them.

Mars is drenched in water and ice.
Only the surface is desiccated.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

wrote in message
oups.com...
They just can't cope with
the reality that lies just ahead of them.

Mars is drenched in water and ice.
Only the surface is desiccated.


You keep talking about coverup of fossil discoveries.
Any evidence for this?

February 14, 2005

Naaa, they're just totally befuddled geologists.

Look at what is happening, Mars is turning out to
be much wetter than they even imagined when they
started this mission, then they found very little
evidence for water on the plains of Gusev, which
they thought should have been a huge sea at one
time from the orbital imagery, then they get into
the hills and find MASSIVE evidence of water, and
now they have to totally reevaluate what they
wrote up in August, and their whold idea of
emplaced basaltic lava flows for the hills is
dead in the water, so to speak, and everyone
else is coming up with biological theories
for berry formation at Meridiani, credible
extremophile evolutionary developments,
and suddenly they get up over the ridge
and discover themselves in a rock field
of staggering diversity and states of
total water alteration, with numerous
structural anomalies everywhere they look.

They are trying to slow things down to the
geologically slow pace that they are used to,
when the results themselves are spiralling
out of control. P205 off the scale, a model
of impact flow deposition that indicates that
the rocks are old, diverse, and loaded with
water and hydrates, salts, etc, and more rock types
than they can possible analyze, and the prospect
that they will probably wrap up the whole life
on Mars question in the next few weeks, while
they're still planning for missions five years
out. Then there is the problem of life on Mars,
and what it means for their pathetic VSE -
Visiting Space Expensively, that puts a
real wrench in the gears for Man on Mars.

Then, we have a faith based administration.

Finally, when all this blew up in their face,
the rover on the other side of Mars is suddenly
stopped in its tracks, while racing off on a several
kilometer trek, and they dig a hole in the ground
and start taking pictures of patterns of berries,
that if you really start looking at too closely,
you will literally go insane at what you are
seeing patterned out on the ground, at both
sites. We are talking major weirdness here.

You figure it out. I'm just the messenger.

I encourage you to study the photos carefully,
especially the ones that come out in the next
few days, if they are able to negotiate the rocks.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:

February 13, 2005

MERGATE, Marsgate.

The data embargo is complete.

Not a single image downloaded yesterday.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

They're hiding them in the Face in Cydonia, don't you know?
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Canberra, Australia
The nation's capital