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Old January 16th 05, 01:19 AM
Brad Guth
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Instead of focusing upon whatever's on or past Mars (no matters how
interesting includes the likes of Titan), I'll go for our moon any day
of the week, even if it's limited to what the ISS can manage. In fact,
the notion of impacting the moon for the pure and simple sake of
terraforming it into retaining a thin CO2/Rn atmosphere along with
absolute loads of vaporised basalt-O2 might become just the ISS ticket
to ride, short of moving ISS as per station-keeping within the ME-L1
nullification zone without a specific task in mind. At least
accommodating such intentional lunar impacts could actually arrive
within 24 hours, and just about any damn fool with a half-assed rocket
should be able to manage the shot.

Thanks to "DEEP IMPACT", I have obtained some new and improved ideas as
to the amount of vaporised basalt per tonne of whatever we can toss at
the moon, whereas I might now be suggesting upon a 1e6:1 ratio that
should start looking rather interesting on behalf of future robotic
instrument deployments.

DEEP IMPACT is expected to penetrate itself into forming a rather nasty
crater as it displaces and/or vaporises roughly 101,000 m3 worth of
whatever substance away from the target, accomplishing this task by
utilizing a mere bullet worth of an object having a total mass of 372 kg
(including it's 144 kg copper wedge) as it encounters the comet at 10.3
km/s. Eeven if the shot is a total miss, I've already learned something
that's been another one of those need-to-know tidbits as kindly withheld
from all the contributions by others that oddly claim knowing all there
is to know.

Frankly, I don't believe we should have been focused upon Mars, as even
that's simply too darn robotic spendy as well as lethal for the task of
getting folks safely to/from, and it even gets more lethal the longer
they say, not to mention our having to first invest another decade worth
of R&D along with the trillion plus price tag, and I believe that's with
nothing persay on the books as for keeping the likes of Mars from
infecting Earth.

Since we can't seem to biologically deal with what we've already got,
perhaps we should not be going out of our way looking for new and
improved ways of bringing back the sorts of robust life that has
survived the test of time for being summarily sub-frozen thousands of
years, thoroughly pulverised and otherwise TBI, especially if all of
whatever Mars had to offer didn't manage to kill it off. What sort of
super-antibiotic is it going to take once any portion of Mars arrives on
Earth?

For much the same reasons, I can't foresee our DNA/RNA physically going
to/from Venus, whereas the VL2 platform (TRACE-II as station-keeping at
Venus L2, with laser communication cannons) and of a few interactive
surface deployed probes seems safe enough, that plus whatever's situated
64,000 km away from our moon should be relatively safe except for
whatever actual lunar surface activities being somewhat physically
lethal and hosting the ideal morgue of spores and perhaps shells of
silica diatoms that have been collecting there since the beginning of
time. Perhaps that's another perfectly good reason why I'm focused upon
establishing the LSE-CM/ISS, as offering a damn good ISS replacement
that's a essentially a handy depot/gateway plus somewhat offering us the
one and only safe-house environment that's been doable within the
technology and expertise at hand.

I believe getting ISS to the ME-L1 zone is doable, then eventually
constructing an underground biological safe-house within the moon will
have to exist before replacing ISS or perhaps relocating it somewhere
along the tether dipole element, or perhaps as a secondary portion of
the lesser CCM interactive component of the master LSE, but until then
an abode within the ISS or eventually as a portion of the infrastructure
of the LSE-CM/ISS isn't half bad.

Getting rid of ISS once having done it's job isn't the problem. Keeping
ISS alive and kicking and situated where we might obtain the most bang
for our buck/euro seems important. But what do I know?

Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-javelin-probes.htm
The basic LSE-CM/ISS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm


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Old January 18th 05, 09:25 PM
Brad Guth
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Apparently the notion of applied physics (science truth or consequences)
on behalf of appropriately utilizing ISS as for doing some actual
hard-science good for humanity isn't worth salt. Folks encharge would
rather have us contemplating places entirely unaccessible to humanity,
whereas even unproven and yet to be developed robotic recovery
expeditions will cost hundreds of billions and take decades to
accomplish, not to mention the pollution impact upon mother Earth.

You'd think that out of what ESA has been recently showing us about
Titan, of what that sub-frozen moon having such a terrific though
humanly nasty atmosphere that's at least darn good for getting fairly
substantial robotics onto the surface due to the tremendous density,
that which our laws of astrophysics and present knowledge base of
planetary/moon geology still offers us nothing as to why it's even
there, especially since the Titan gravity of 1.35 m/s is relatively
slight as to be holding onto 1.5 bar.

Too bad we still have nothing persay of our lunar surface environment,
other than what has been obtained from orbit and from the likes of KECK
that's offering greater than 10 fold better resolution than from the
latest SMART-1 mission. I believe even TRACE could image the moon at
better resolution than SMART-1.

Titan makes me think our moon @1.623 m/s worth of gravity should
certainly do a whole lot better off than its' reported 3e-15 bar, and it
seems that I'm not the first nor the last individual speculating as to
what's possible on behalf of improving that situation.

The notion of utilizing ISS as station-keeping @36~38r(62,568 ~ 66,044
km) with a tether anchored into the moon, having robotic tether crawlers
bringing up amounts of lunar basalt that can be released at perhaps 32r
~ 33r(55,616 ~ 57,354 km) should rather nicely impact at enough final
velocity as to vaporise 1e6:1 worth of surface basalt, of which better
than 50% of that is O2.

Apparently contributing feedback on anything having to do with our moon,
Venus or Sirius is off-limits, as in taboo 'nondisclosure' or bust, as
in NASA damage-control teams doing whatever it takes as to keeping the
mainstream media sufficiently threatened and/or snookered into
submission, or else. Perhaps that's where I'm getting my notions about
'FORUMS THAT SUCK'.

Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS


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