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Instead of focusing upon whatever's on or past Mars (no matters how
interesting includes the likes of Titan), I'll go for our moon any day of the week, even if it's limited to what the ISS can manage. In fact, the notion of impacting the moon for the pure and simple sake of terraforming it into retaining a thin CO2/Rn atmosphere along with absolute loads of vaporised basalt-O2 might become just the ISS ticket to ride, short of moving ISS as per station-keeping within the ME-L1 nullification zone without a specific task in mind. At least accommodating such intentional lunar impacts could actually arrive within 24 hours, and just about any damn fool with a half-assed rocket should be able to manage the shot. Thanks to "DEEP IMPACT", I have obtained some new and improved ideas as to the amount of vaporised basalt per tonne of whatever we can toss at the moon, whereas I might now be suggesting upon a 1e6:1 ratio that should start looking rather interesting on behalf of future robotic instrument deployments. DEEP IMPACT is expected to penetrate itself into forming a rather nasty crater as it displaces and/or vaporises roughly 101,000 m3 worth of whatever substance away from the target, accomplishing this task by utilizing a mere bullet worth of an object having a total mass of 372 kg (including it's 144 kg copper wedge) as it encounters the comet at 10.3 km/s. Eeven if the shot is a total miss, I've already learned something that's been another one of those need-to-know tidbits as kindly withheld from all the contributions by others that oddly claim knowing all there is to know. Frankly, I don't believe we should have been focused upon Mars, as even that's simply too darn robotic spendy as well as lethal for the task of getting folks safely to/from, and it even gets more lethal the longer they say, not to mention our having to first invest another decade worth of R&D along with the trillion plus price tag, and I believe that's with nothing persay on the books as for keeping the likes of Mars from infecting Earth. Since we can't seem to biologically deal with what we've already got, perhaps we should not be going out of our way looking for new and improved ways of bringing back the sorts of robust life that has survived the test of time for being summarily sub-frozen thousands of years, thoroughly pulverised and otherwise TBI, especially if all of whatever Mars had to offer didn't manage to kill it off. What sort of super-antibiotic is it going to take once any portion of Mars arrives on Earth? For much the same reasons, I can't foresee our DNA/RNA physically going to/from Venus, whereas the VL2 platform (TRACE-II as station-keeping at Venus L2, with laser communication cannons) and of a few interactive surface deployed probes seems safe enough, that plus whatever's situated 64,000 km away from our moon should be relatively safe except for whatever actual lunar surface activities being somewhat physically lethal and hosting the ideal morgue of spores and perhaps shells of silica diatoms that have been collecting there since the beginning of time. Perhaps that's another perfectly good reason why I'm focused upon establishing the LSE-CM/ISS, as offering a damn good ISS replacement that's a essentially a handy depot/gateway plus somewhat offering us the one and only safe-house environment that's been doable within the technology and expertise at hand. I believe getting ISS to the ME-L1 zone is doable, then eventually constructing an underground biological safe-house within the moon will have to exist before replacing ISS or perhaps relocating it somewhere along the tether dipole element, or perhaps as a secondary portion of the lesser CCM interactive component of the master LSE, but until then an abode within the ISS or eventually as a portion of the infrastructure of the LSE-CM/ISS isn't half bad. Getting rid of ISS once having done it's job isn't the problem. Keeping ISS alive and kicking and situated where we might obtain the most bang for our buck/euro seems important. But what do I know? Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-javelin-probes.htm The basic LSE-CM/ISS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Apparently the notion of applied physics (science truth or consequences)
on behalf of appropriately utilizing ISS as for doing some actual hard-science good for humanity isn't worth salt. Folks encharge would rather have us contemplating places entirely unaccessible to humanity, whereas even unproven and yet to be developed robotic recovery expeditions will cost hundreds of billions and take decades to accomplish, not to mention the pollution impact upon mother Earth. You'd think that out of what ESA has been recently showing us about Titan, of what that sub-frozen moon having such a terrific though humanly nasty atmosphere that's at least darn good for getting fairly substantial robotics onto the surface due to the tremendous density, that which our laws of astrophysics and present knowledge base of planetary/moon geology still offers us nothing as to why it's even there, especially since the Titan gravity of 1.35 m/s is relatively slight as to be holding onto 1.5 bar. Too bad we still have nothing persay of our lunar surface environment, other than what has been obtained from orbit and from the likes of KECK that's offering greater than 10 fold better resolution than from the latest SMART-1 mission. I believe even TRACE could image the moon at better resolution than SMART-1. Titan makes me think our moon @1.623 m/s worth of gravity should certainly do a whole lot better off than its' reported 3e-15 bar, and it seems that I'm not the first nor the last individual speculating as to what's possible on behalf of improving that situation. The notion of utilizing ISS as station-keeping @36~38r(62,568 ~ 66,044 km) with a tether anchored into the moon, having robotic tether crawlers bringing up amounts of lunar basalt that can be released at perhaps 32r ~ 33r(55,616 ~ 57,354 km) should rather nicely impact at enough final velocity as to vaporise 1e6:1 worth of surface basalt, of which better than 50% of that is O2. Apparently contributing feedback on anything having to do with our moon, Venus or Sirius is off-limits, as in taboo 'nondisclosure' or bust, as in NASA damage-control teams doing whatever it takes as to keeping the mainstream media sufficiently threatened and/or snookered into submission, or else. Perhaps that's where I'm getting my notions about 'FORUMS THAT SUCK'. Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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