Mysterious signals from 1000 light years away

Like what, PROOF?

Exactly!

Everyone knows if you drive safely the accident rate will go down.
No one believes if everyone drove as safely as possible, there would be no accidents.

The proof is there in the incredibly long statistics, that the 3 certain things I mentioned could not be true.

If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are in
the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply stating the obvious.


Regards
Robert

"Aratzio" wrote in message rdnews.com...
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:11:25 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
transparently proposed:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:37:33 +1200, "EvolBob"
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message :

Three things are certain:

1 We are not alone
2 Intelligent life that has been around more than a million years is aware of us.
3 Earth has been visited; I said Earth - not us!

Your definition of "certain" leaves a lot to be desired.

Like what, PROOF?


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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 01:28:19 +1200, "EvolBob"
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message :

Like what, PROOF?

Exactly!

Everyone knows if you drive safely the accident rate will go down.
No one believes if everyone drove as safely as possible, there would be no accidents.

The proof is there in the incredibly long statistics, that the 3 certain things I mentioned could not be true.

If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are in
the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply stating the obvious.


Regards
Robert

Unfortunately, history teaches us that "the obvious" has the
unpleasant habit of often being completely wrong.
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If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how resourceful
intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are in

we dont know how life arose from nonlife on earth
this process has never been observed
and is currently outside scientific study

assuming there is life
we dont know how much it is intelligent
based on earths own history
its a fair chance prokaryotes will arise quickly if the circumstances present
but that eukaryotes are rare inventions

we dont know what is the distribution of planets that can support life
a supernova occured near our sun when it was forming
perhaps you need this influx of heat and material to create life
in which case life would be very very very rare

the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply stating
the obvious.

you obviously havent put much thought into this

arf meow arf

"EvolBob" wrote in
:

Like what, PROOF?

Exactly!

Everyone knows if you drive safely the accident rate will go down.
No one believes if everyone drove as safely as possible, there would
be no accidents.

"Everyone knows" is not proof. "Everyone knows" that green m&ms make you
horny. "Everyone knows" that bad things happen in threes. Common
knowledge is not a reliable indicator of fact.

The proof is there in the incredibly long statistics, that the 3
certain things I mentioned could not be true.

Sorry. Statistics attempting to demonstrate something "could not be true"
are no proof that it is true.

If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how
resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are
in the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply
stating the obvious.

Again incorrect. The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other life,
since you can demonstrate NO evidence that it exists, other than your
conjecture that there is a lot of space so other life "must" exist.
Conjecture is not fact.

Paul Lawler wrote,
in post . 125.201 :
| "EvolBob" wrote in
| :
|
|Like what, PROOF?
|
| Exactly!
|
| Everyone knows if you drive safely the accident rate will go down.
| No one believes if everyone drove as safely as possible, there would
| be no accidents.
|
| "Everyone knows" is not proof. "Everyone knows" that green m&ms make you
| horny. "Everyone knows" that bad things happen in threes. Common
| knowledge is not a reliable indicator of fact.
|
| The proof is there in the incredibly long statistics, that the 3
| certain things I mentioned could not be true.
|
| Sorry. Statistics attempting to demonstrate something "could not be true"
| are no proof that it is true.
|
| If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how
| resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are
| in the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply
| stating the obvious.
|
| Again incorrect. The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other life,
| since you can demonstrate NO evidence that it exists, other than your
| conjecture that there is a lot of space so other life "must" exist.
| Conjecture is not fact.



Proof? You are correct. There IS no definitive proof. And there is an
profound and readily apparent reason fot that- if you only reflect.
Intelligent Life ouside this nearly infinitely tiny region of the Universe
exists in abundance......extreme abundance. Millions of years ahead
of your species, and likewise millions lagging. The time for complete
and total exposure and introduction is fast approaching- before you
jesters completely destroy yourselves with your phoolish Pride and
pathetically unjustified Hubris. Prepare yourselves with a healthy
mind and body. There will be astonishing opportunities for the
meek and kindly. What have you done for your fellow earthlings
lately? Mostly a giver? Mostly a taker? The answers to these two
questions will be transparently apparent when the time comes.
Starting to feel guilty and frightened? GET TO WORK. IT IS NOT
TOO LATE.
Ù?Ú

"ÒJÓ" wrote:
Paul Lawler wrote,
|
| Again incorrect. The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other
| life, since you can demonstrate NO evidence that it exists, other
| than your conjecture that there is a lot of space so other life
| "must" exist. Conjecture is not fact.

Proof? You are correct. There IS no definitive proof. And there is an
profound and readily apparent reason fot that- if you only reflect.
Intelligent Life ouside this nearly infinitely tiny region of the
Universe exists in abundance......extreme abundance.

Evidence please? Otherwise you merely offer conjecture, which should be
more accurately rephrased as, "It is my personal opinion that life outside
this nearly infinintely tiny region of the universe exists in abundance."

Paul Lawler wrote,
in post . 125.201 :
| "EvolBob" wrote in
| :
|
|Like what, PROOF?
|
| Exactly!
|
| Everyone knows if you drive safely the accident rate will go down.
| No one believes if everyone drove as safely as possible, there would
| be no accidents.
|
| "Everyone knows" is not proof. "Everyone knows" that green m&ms make you
| horny. "Everyone knows" that bad things happen in threes. Common
| knowledge is not a reliable indicator of fact.
|
| The proof is there in the incredibly long statistics, that the 3
| certain things I mentioned could not be true.
|
| Sorry. Statistics attempting to demonstrate something "could not be true"
| are no proof that it is true.
|
| If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how
| resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are
| in the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply
| stating the obvious.
|
| Again incorrect. The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other life,
| since you can demonstrate NO evidence that it exists, other than your
| conjecture that there is a lot of space so other life "must" exist.
| Conjecture is not fact.



Proof? You are correct. There IS no definitive proof. And there is a
profound and readily apparent reason for that- if you only reflect.
Intelligent Life ouside this nearly extremely tiny region of the Universe
exists in abundance......extreme abundance. Millions of years ahead
of your species, and likewise millions lagging. The time for complete
and total exposure and introduction is fast approaching- before you
Jesters completely destroy yourselves with your Foolish Pride and
pathetically unjustified Hubris. Prepare yourselves with a healthy
mind and body. There will be astonishing opportunities for the
meek and kindly. What have you done for your fellow earthlings
lately? Mostly a giver? Mostly a taker? The answers to these two
questions will be transparently apparent when the time comes.
Starting to feel guilty and frightened? GET TO WORK. IT IS NOT
TOO LATE.
Ù?Ú

It is obvious to me.
What would be obvious to you Paul?

..The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other life, ...

If this is what you believe I'd love to hear your proof!


Regards
Robert

"Paul Lawler" wrote in message . 125.201...
"EvolBob" wrote in
:

Like what, PROOF?

Exactly!

Everyone knows if you drive safely the accident rate will go down.
No one believes if everyone drove as safely as possible, there would
be no accidents.

"Everyone knows" is not proof. "Everyone knows" that green m&ms make you
horny. "Everyone knows" that bad things happen in threes. Common
knowledge is not a reliable indicator of fact.

The proof is there in the incredibly long statistics, that the 3
certain things I mentioned could not be true.

Sorry. Statistics attempting to demonstrate something "could not be true"
are no proof that it is true.

If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how
resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are
in the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply
stating the obvious.

Again incorrect. The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other life,
since you can demonstrate NO evidence that it exists, other than your
conjecture that there is a lot of space so other life "must" exist.
Conjecture is not fact.


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"EvolBob" wrote:

****moved to where it belongs--at the bottom


"Paul Lawler" wrote in message
. 125.201... "EvolBob"
wrote in :

Like what, PROOF?

Exactly!

Everyone knows if you drive safely the accident rate will go down.
No one believes if everyone drove as safely as possible, there would
be no accidents.

"Everyone knows" is not proof. "Everyone knows" that green m&ms make
you horny. "Everyone knows" that bad things happen in threes. Common
knowledge is not a reliable indicator of fact.

The proof is there in the incredibly long statistics, that the 3
certain things I mentioned could not be true.

Sorry. Statistics attempting to demonstrate something "could not be
true" are no proof that it is true.

If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how
resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are
in the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply
stating the obvious.

Again incorrect. The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other
life, since you can demonstrate NO evidence that it exists, other than
your conjecture that there is a lot of space so other life "must"
exist. Conjecture is not fact.
=========End of article he pasted in=============

It is obvious to me.
What would be obvious to you Paul?

It's obvious that I can't speak for Paul, but I would say that you need
to either have an irrefutable argument or have the thing in question
right before your eyes before you can say it's obvious.

..The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other life, ...

If this is what you believe I'd love to hear your proof!

That's the funniest thing I've seen today.

Give us your "proof by statistics" that there's life elsewhere.


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"EvolBob" wrote in
:

*top posting fixed*

If you had a good knowledge of how life can develop, and how
resourceful intelligent life is, and just how many planets there are
in the Universe for this to occur, Monkey Boy would know I was simply
stating the obvious.

Again incorrect. The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other
life, since you can demonstrate NO evidence that it exists, other than
your conjecture that there is a lot of space so other life "must"
exist. Conjecture is not fact.

It is obvious to me.
What would be obvious to you Paul?

..The "obvious" conclusion is that there is no other life, ...

If this is what you believe I'd love to hear your proof!

I didn't say that is what I "believe." What I believe is irrelevant to what
I can prove. I cannot (and obviously neither can you) prove that there is
any life in the universe other than on Earth. Therefore the ONLY conclusion
possible is that life "may possibly" exist. The conclusion that life
"obviously" or "definitely" exists just because you think it should is
erroneous.

P.S. Asking me to give proof that something does not exist is a logical
fallacy.

P.P.S. Since we are both speaking English, I thought this might be helpful to
you. ob·vi·ous (adj.) Easily perceived or understood; quite apparent.