Convincing Arguments for a Moon Hoax? Sleuths?

Algomeysa2 wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...

SO YOU CAN WATCH WITH YOUR OWN EYES THE 'OFFICIAL NASA FOOTAGE' THAT
PROVES THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THE WHOLE TRUTH!!!


A week or two ago, you were posting links to a supposed UFO that Apollo 16
astronauts had photographed (nevermind that it was an easily explained, no
mystery about it item in reality).

This week you're claiming the Moon Landings were a hoax.

Both stances can't be correct, which is it?

You tell me, since you figure I am 'stupid'.

Did nobody ever go to the
Moon, or were the Apollo 16 astronauts there to snap that photo?

Either you believe one and are simply playing games by posting the other,
or, more likely, you're playing games on both items.

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...

You tell me, since you figure I am 'stupid'.

No, I figure one of three things:

1) You're stupid (and by that I mean sentient moron, you have the
intelligence to string sentences together, and you may have a low animal
cunning similar to the type that enables a raccoon to figure out how to
unscrew the lid off a garbage can, but no common sense).
2) You're crazy.
3) You're intentionally posting nonsense for the sake of being contrary in
order to be a newsgroup troll, stuff that you yourself don't even believe
(This seems the most likely, but I submit that there may be 100% divided
between these 3 possibilities, 30% stupid, 25% crazy, 45% playing games.
Some combination like that).

For anyone who even for a minute really wonders if the Moon Landings were
indeed hoaxes (and the answer is no), I suggest these links:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

More puzzling is, what powers the conspiracy nut? Why is this idea so
seductive, that they persist in it no matter how much their individual
points are completed demolished (and this guy will post the same nonsense
next week, or a slight variant). The same with the kooks and the face
on Mars, etc.

(Amazingly, this same guy will post links in a week or two purporting alien
pyramids on the Moon, or whatever, which again runs into that you can't have
it both ways problem: if the astronauts never went to the Moon, then they
couldn't have taken photos of alien pyramids there).

It may be like telling ghost stories around the campfire. They may feel
the world is a more interesting place with a bit of structured fairy tale
added to it . Or, for some reason, they may feel there's too much
rationality in the world, and so by injecting their bit of nonsense they're
striking some blow for irrationality. In effect, adding some irrational
static to the Rational radio station. Intelligence jamming. But that's
irrational, you say! Well... Yeah.

Algomeysa2 wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...


You tell me, since you figure I am 'stupid'.


No, I figure one of three things:

1) You're stupid (and by that I mean sentient moron, you have the
intelligence to string sentences together, and you may have a low animal
cunning similar to the type that enables a raccoon to figure out how to
unscrew the lid off a garbage can, but no common sense).
2) You're crazy.
3) You're intentionally posting nonsense for the sake of being contrary in
order to be a newsgroup troll, stuff that you yourself don't even believe
(This seems the most likely, but I submit that there may be 100% divided
between these 3 possibilities, 30% stupid, 25% crazy, 45% playing games.
Some combination like that).

For anyone who even for a minute really wonders if the Moon Landings were
indeed hoaxes (and the answer is no), I suggest these links:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

More puzzling is, what powers the conspiracy nut? Why is this idea so
seductive, that they persist in it no matter how much their individual
points are completed demolished (and this guy will post the same nonsense
next week, or a slight variant). The same with the kooks and the face
on Mars, etc.

(Amazingly, this same guy will post links in a week or two purporting alien
pyramids on the Moon, or whatever, which again runs into that you can't have
it both ways problem: if the astronauts never went to the Moon, then they
couldn't have taken photos of alien pyramids there).

It may be like telling ghost stories around the campfire. They may feel
the world is a more interesting place with a bit of structured fairy tale
added to it . Or, for some reason, they may feel there's too much
rationality in the world, and so by injecting their bit of nonsense they're
striking some blow for irrationality. In effect, adding some irrational
static to the Rational radio station. Intelligence jamming. But that's
irrational, you say! Well... Yeah.


Let me ask you this, what bothers you guys so much that people say there
was no Moon landings? After all they are just 'stupid' people according
to you guys and so do what most people do with stupid people, ignore
them. I don't fly into a tiffy when an idiot tells me I am stupid. I
laugh at best, and at worst just ignore them. The fact that the Moon
mission hoax people get a response from BA or NASA only proves that you
guys suffer from the exact same accusation as your last paragraph suggests.

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...

Let me ask you this, what bothers you guys so much that people say there
was no Moon landings? After all they are just 'stupid' people according
to you guys and so do what most people do with stupid people, ignore

But I never called you stupid. I only said that was 1 of 3 possibilities
(2. Crazy 3. Intentionally trolling and playing games, and as I said, that's
the most probable, since you'd have to be really stupid or really crazy to
truly believe this stuff).

I respond not because you matter, but because it's misinformation you post
and somebody reading it might actually be convinced by your nonsense, if
only by its repetition.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

"Algomeysa2" wrote in message
news:VN7Xc.3849$Y%

I respond not because you matter, but because it's misinformation you
post
and somebody reading it might actually be convinced by your nonsense,
if
only by its repetition.


Any chance that friends of alt.astronomy allow ourselves just one
response _in total_ to each Mad Scientist post and then ignore them.

He has stated that he has no interest in what is known in science; so we
should defer from giving him the response he craves.

With luck we could get -
One post from him (evidence lite as usual)
One response including a simple rebuttal (including references if
possible)
One response from him asserting sociopathic tendencies.

and then the thread stops.

This would benefit all of us who have 'plonked' him, because we would
only see the middle post.

Well, that's my dream.

OG wrote:

"Algomeysa2" wrote in message
news:VN7Xc.3849$Y%

I respond not because you matter, but because it's misinformation you

post

and somebody reading it might actually be convinced by your nonsense,

if

only by its repetition.



Any chance that friends of alt.astronomy allow ourselves just one
response _in total_ to each Mad Scientist post and then ignore them.

He has stated that he has no interest in what is known in science; so we
should defer from giving him the response he craves.


No it would be better if you sociopaths ignored my posts altogether.
This I prefer, but to no avail. Each and everytime someone says ignore
me, I hope they would. Each and everytime someone says I am on the
killfile, I smile and think, good riddance moron.



With luck we could get -
One post from him (evidence lite as usual)
One response including a simple rebuttal (including references if
possible)
One response from him asserting sociopathic tendencies.

and then the thread stops.

This would benefit all of us who have 'plonked' him, because we would
only see the middle post.

Well, that's my dream.

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
|
| No it would be better if you sociopaths ignored my posts altogether.
| This I prefer, but to no avail.

Hogwash. You change your e-mail address specifically to defeat killfiles.
When I proposed to killfile you myself, you said that such an action would
be sociopathic.

--
|
The universe is not required to conform | Jay Windley
to the expectations of the ignorant. | webmaster @ clavius.org

Another usenet sociopath backtracks on his own statements made in
entirely different posts.

Algomeysa2 wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...

Let me ask you this, what bothers you guys so much that people say there
was no Moon landings? After all they are just 'stupid' people according
to you guys and so do what most people do with stupid people, ignore


But I never called you stupid. I only said that was 1 of 3 possibilities
(2. Crazy 3. Intentionally trolling and playing games, and as I said, that's
the most probable, since you'd have to be really stupid or really crazy to
truly believe this stuff).

I respond not because you matter, but because it's misinformation you post
and somebody reading it might actually be convinced by your nonsense, if
only by its repetition.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

Mad Scientist wrote in

Let me ask you this, what bothers you guys so much that people say
there was no Moon landings? After all they are just 'stupid' people
according to you guys and so do what most people do with stupid
people, ignore them. I don't fly into a tiffy when an idiot tells me I
am stupid. I laugh at best, and at worst just ignore them. The fact
that the Moon mission hoax people get a response from BA or NASA only
proves that you guys suffer from the exact same accusation as your
last paragraph suggests.

Would you like me to provide examples of postings where you indeed flew
into a "tiffy" and responded with personal insults and profanity? I can
give you many.

The point is that the people spreading these falshoods have managed to
sucker people like you into believing, or at least giving credence to
somehthing that is just plain false. Believe it or not, some people
actually think that is wrong.

Paul the resident idiot of alt.astronomy now wants things to go back to
respectful dialogue.

Paul Lawler wrote:

Mad Scientist wrote in


Let me ask you this, what bothers you guys so much that people say
there was no Moon landings? After all they are just 'stupid' people
according to you guys and so do what most people do with stupid
people, ignore them. I don't fly into a tiffy when an idiot tells me I
am stupid. I laugh at best, and at worst just ignore them. The fact
that the Moon mission hoax people get a response from BA or NASA only
proves that you guys suffer from the exact same accusation as your
last paragraph suggests.


Would you like me to provide examples of postings where you indeed flew
into a "tiffy" and responded with personal insults and profanity? I can
give you many.

The point is that the people spreading these falshoods have managed to
sucker people like you into believing, or at least giving credence to
somehthing that is just plain false. Believe it or not, some people
actually think that is wrong.