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Old May 4th 04, 11:11 PM
Marty
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John Steinberg was pontificating
A little historical tidbit about WebTV
(Marty's means of access.) It was
developed by Apple engineers who then
pitched it back to their employers. Apple
said "nyet" and off they went for bluer
horizons. Ultimately, of course, MS
bought WebTV, and the rest, as they
say, is history.


Yup. This little webbybox seems to do about everything I need it for,
and while I can be a vector for viruses, they can't hurt me. (Except
for the kind that fills up my mailbox with stuff from infected
computers...) And it's so simple to use, even I can use it! I just sit
here on my couch with my little infrared keyboard and watch my TV
screen...
Marty

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Old May 5th 04, 01:06 AM
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Hold on fellas, give me a minute to call Gillette. . .they may want to
sponsor this thing!!

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Old May 5th 04, 01:40 AM
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Hi Jon--What apps do you need? Perhaps I can help.


They say first pick the software you want to run, and then buy the platform
that runs it...

Got the apps, got the platform, got it under control....

jon



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Old May 5th 04, 01:45 AM
Lawrence Sayre
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 13:11:49 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Marty:
Howard Lester got an email with my address with an infected attachment
of some kind on it, although I didn't send him anything. Might be a
little careful of anything that looks like it's from me for a while...


Thanks for the warning, but no worries, mate; I use Macs...

Davoud


HeHe! I use nothing but Linux, so no wories here either.

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Old May 5th 04, 03:18 AM
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Ed wrote:

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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"An Apple a day keeps Bill Grrrrrates away"


Yeah, right. Mac users never use Microsoft Word for Macintosh,
Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft Project, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft
Internet Explorer, Microsoft Virtual PC, Microsoft Entourage, MSN,
MSN Messenger, Microsoft Windows Media Player, Microsoft,
Microsoft, Microsoft. And Mac users certainly never use Microsoft
hardware like Microsoft keyboards and Microsoft mice.


Innocent--I don't use any Microsoft hardware or software. Not even IE.
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Old May 5th 04, 04:27 AM
Chris L Peterson
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 17:44:18 GMT, John Steinberg wrote:

Suggestion: Throw out your Windows OS and install Linux or buy a Mac!

[This suggestion does NOT apply to Chris L. Peterson, as he's one of a
dozen people in the known universe that actually finds WinXP more
aesthetically appealing than OS X snort]


Ah, but just what are you snorting? That's what I'm wondering...

BTW, I think the default _visual_ WinXP interface is generally is gawdawful- I
call it the Drunken Clown Interface, because it looks to me like that's who
designed it. Every XP machine I set up, I turn on the classic Windows interface,
classic start bar, turn off all the informational graphics inside folders, and
use a desktop image and color scheme made from something other than primary
colors. When I said (sometime back) that I like the Windows interface better, I
wasn't actually talking about the default XP look. If you thought that, I can
see why you might find it difficult to believe I'm sane! g

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Old May 5th 04, 06:14 AM
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"Davoud" wrote in message
...
Richard DeLuca
But, if you want to see George W. Bush gone in November, I figure you
got about another month to find a viable candidate. John Kerry ain't
it, coming across as both arrogant and aloof.


We haven't had a Mac vs. PeeCee war here for a long time. Just as I
start to get into it, you sugue into politics! This may be the first
segue of its kind in SAA; I'm pleased to be a witness to it.


Lovely! There must be some way we can work in the almost forgotten refractor
vs reflector venom, and what happened to the believer vs non-believer
brawling, and Noah hasn't had a mention for months, and what about
astrology? What an opportunity, an all-purpose mindless, ignorant thread
that could go on forever.


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Old May 5th 04, 06:27 AM
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Richard DeLuca
But, if you want to see George W. Bush gone in November, I figure you
got about another month to find a viable candidate. John Kerry ain't
it, coming across as both arrogant and aloof.


We haven't had a Mac vs. PeeCee war here for a long time. Just as I
start to get into it, you sugue into politics! This may be the first
segue of its kind in SAA; I'm pleased to be a witness to it.

And mark my words, his Vietnam experience is gonna come
back and bite him in the ass.


It's interesting to see how the Lying Liars of the Party of Nixon are
trying to belittle the service of a thirce-wounded veteran in contrast
to their AWOL Guardsman! Bush doesn't amount to a pimple on a
Commander-in-Chief's ass.

Davoud

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Old May 5th 04, 07:46 AM
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In article ,
Sam Wormley wrote:
Paul Schlyter wrote:

In article ,
John Steinberg wrote:
Jon Isaacs wrote:

Here's a nice link:

http://antivirus.about.com/cs/macintoshthreats/

What's nice about it? There are no Mac OS X threats (other than
clueless PC users, careless programmers and a behemoth in Redmond that
can spend many months creating a single critical patch.) None, Jon. No
malware of any consequence for OS X.


People who are religious zealots about their favourite computers are
amusing -- up to a point....

The reason there are relatively few threats to OS X is that it has
fairly few users. If it should become a mainstream OS, then it
would be just as intensely targeted by virus authors as Windows is
today.


Hi Paul--There is the implied assumption that Linux, Unix and Mac OS X
have just as many vulnerabilities as NT and Windows....


What's the difference between "NT" and "Windows" ? Doesn't NT belong
to the WIndows family of OS'es?

Anyway, that's your interpretation and not my assumption. I believe
Unix and their clones have fewer vulnerabilities, but not zero
vulnerabilities as some people seem to want to believe. But let me
put it this way: of all these OS'es, Windows is definitely the one
which had had the most severe "field test", because it's the most
targeted OE'es by the virus authors. Therefore the Windows
vulnerabilities are the most exposed. And users of other OS'es tend
to be overly optimistic about the lack of vulnerabilities of their
OS. And should their pet OS become as popular as they'd wish, I
believe they might get a shock when vulnerabilities in these OS'es
started to be revealed.

I'm not sure that that is the case. Granted all operating systems
have vulnerabilities, but I'd like to see some statistics that
show the others are no better than Microsoft.

I've been in the UNIX/Linux/OS X environment since 1989... have been
part of the cyber wars... I seem much more secure than my Microsoft
colleagues and friends.

-Sam


You'd probably be just as secure if you used plain MS-DOS: hardly
anyone uses it anymore, and even fewer write malicious code for it.

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Old May 5th 04, 07:46 AM
Paul Schlyter
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In article ,
Sam Wormley wrote:

Ed wrote:

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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"An Apple a day keeps Bill Grrrrrates away"


Yeah, right. Mac users never use Microsoft Word for Macintosh,


:-) ....perhaps Ed never does that, but I know Mac users who use
Microsoft software sometimes. Thus the statement "Mac users never
use Microsoft long list of software" is false....

Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft Project, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft
Internet Explorer, Microsoft Virtual PC, Microsoft Entourage, MSN,
MSN Messenger, Microsoft Windows Media Player, Microsoft,
Microsoft, Microsoft. And Mac users certainly never use Microsoft
hardware like Microsoft keyboards and Microsoft mice.


Innocent--I don't use any Microsoft hardware or software. Not even IE.


....and you never ever visit any web site on a server running Windows
and Microsoft IIS? If you visit such a site, you're using Microsoft
software, even if it's not running on your computer.... g

Getting yourself religiously free from Microsoft (or any other brand)
is getting increasingly difficult in a world which is getting more and
more interconnected: we just don't KNOW what we're actually using.....

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